Whew, asking the real questions here. I have a few more:
Why aren’t more people using horse drawn carriages? Why aren’t more people using an abacus? Why aren’t more people sending telegrams? Why aren’t more people having duels? Why aren’t more people paying dowries? Why aren’t more people farming with hand tools? Why aren’t more people hunting and gathering in nomadic bands?
To be considered financially independent on FAFSA so less student debt. It was terrible long-term planning but turns out we really get on so it worked out.
Men (and granted I am male) really do need to drop the alpha male stuff. It’s a shame so many men are drawn into this weird mentality on YouTube thinking that’s what is going to get them a girl… When really it’s the furthest from the truth.
I met my wife at work, made some awkward jokes with her, and eventually asked her out. We split everything a perfect 50/50 and I’m proud to say she is a strong independent woman who definitely does not need me. I can’t imagine the disrespect she would feel if all of a sudden I went all alpha.
Well everyone knows that Alpha males are only in their first round of testing. They should be sent back for updates to become a complete man. Alpha tests never go well
Yeah, I don’t think relationships should be based on two people “needing” each other. I think it’s a better relationship when two people are so compatible, that they just naturally WANT to be with each other.
I know right? It’s like we just mutually respect each other, love spending time together, but encourage each other to be their own person as well. The shame we feel together… /s lol
But yeah I don’t understand the mentality of “She needs to be subservient” and “you need to be the alpha” and “gender norms”. it sounds exhausting. These guys have no idea what they’re missing. Sure, we split cleaning 50/50, I’m honestly a terrible cook but I do all of the dishes while she cooks, and then after that? We hang out and play video games together every night. Dudes have no idea what a healthy relationship can be like
Also a man, I haven’t tried being an “alpha male” because I’m not a toxic asshole, but let’s not pretend it’s not effective. Being genuine and kind has gotten me absolutely nowhere in the girlfriend department and the fact is the worst men I know all have girlfriends. If I was willing to be like that I probably would too.
I think what you’re seeing as toxic asshole may actually be confidence. You don’t need to prop up a woman as a perfect diety, you don’t have to just be nice to them, you have to be a whole complete person. Being nice is the minimum, be more than that. Genuine and kind is the minimum expectation, not the whole package. You, the whole you, are the complete package. Your humor, your jokes, your stories, your interests. You aren’t looking for a princess or queen that you have to bow down for. You’re looking for a true life partner.
I hate to link reddit but this sums it up well. It’s a read, and I’d suggest reading through it. God knows I used to think that way - and it was not a healthy thing for me to do. If you’re thinking this way too then it may be time for some real, and I mean real introspection.
I’m rooting for you bud, I really am. As cliche as it is, you just gotta be yourself. Don’t look with envy at other people, be happy for them. Be a person who you can be proud of and other people will pick up on that.
Me too bud, I had to relearn a lot. For me there was a ton of religious upbringing that taught me that talking to girls is taboo at all, and it didn’t prep me at all for the real world. It took me years to realize that girls were just like boys when you’re talking to them - there’s literally no difference. Something a lot of people here would just eyeroll at but for me it was a major revelation. It took a very good (female) friend to help me realize that. She and I could chat for hours about video games, movies, whatever.
It’s not an easy or fun job, working on yourself, learning how you handle different situations. It’s a long process and personally I learned things about myself that I didn’t like, I had to change. I remember thinking people I worked with thought “He’s the cool mysterious guy” when it turns out they all thought “He’s an absolute asshole. Avoid him”. I took some hard punches learning all of that. But - I came out better for learning it.
I wish you luck on your journey. Self improvement pays off 100 fold and I fully support you for it!
My guess is that more and more people are realizing that they can still live very fulfilling lives without getting married.
I can’t imagine how weird and scary it is for women to be dating right now, knowing that there are so many far-right extremist men out there, who have a high potential of being misogynistic or even violent.
It’s not turning out very well for women. A recurring theme in this area is that men seem hesitant on commitment, which ends up ending the relationship one way or another.
Some think it means marriage and children. Which is understandable being hesitant about. Both are big steps that require some “scrying” into the future.
But I don’t have the impression there’s as much of a problem with simply commiting to a relationship and being a couple.
plus you’ve got societal expectations for marriages. honeymoons, church marriages, the recitals and all that can cost big money. even just the photography. It all costs a bunch of money that some people just don’t have, and they’re too hesitant to burn bridges over it. Sure, you can elope in secret right? But that’s a bigger can of worms then just staying partners
As a man it’s weird seeing other men look at the same guy who said “grab them by the pussy” in complete seriousness and then say “that’s my president!”
And then in the next breath they complain that women don’t give them the time of day. Like it’s… strange. I think if you’re gonna be misogynist you should also realize that means a lot of women aren’t going to be into you, but some of them just straight up don’t see it. The math just does not work in their brains.
You just reminded me of that time when young right-wing men were complaining that women wouldn’t date them when they found out about their political stance.
It was one of the funniest things I’ve read in “the news” in a while.
It’s really quite absurd how bad it is in DC. There are so many smart professional young woman here and for so many they’re met by a wall of suit wearing conservative lobbyists who think that all they need to do to “get a wife” is be marginally successful in work, “strong”, and not respectful, kind, intelligent or responsible.
I remember hearing all of the Trump appointees being so angry that no one in DC wanted to date or sleep with them. What did you expect to happen? Taking away women's right isn't the turn on you think it is
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