VanillaDrink,
@VanillaDrink@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I heard about a user whose boyfriend had friends and sent an invite on the app. The only problem, the boyfriend hadn’t created a threads account.

JGrffn,

I have only an Instagram account, checked just now with a friend who has instagram, Facebook, and now threads. He cannot find me on threads at all, so either this isn’t done to EVERYONE on Instagram, or these are just baseless rumors being spread around.

PuppySteak,

They did this with Facebook accounts to instagram too. My brother has never downloaded instagram yet he’s my top follow suggestion all the time and it just uses his Facebook profile picture automatically

QubaXR,
@QubaXR@lemmy.world avatar

Is this a reported news, or a speculation? Really curious, before I start going around, repeating it.

capital,

Been seeing that a lot around here. Pics or it didn’t happen.

People are all too eager to believe stuff if it feeds into their preconceived ideas about these companies.

CthulhuOnIce,

it’s true that they have shadow accounts for Instagram accounts cause threads is currently operating under Instagram, I don’t know if that’s factored into their 30 million user count tho

When you follow one of the shadow accounts it says something like “they’ll respond when they join threads” or something

irotsoma,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

It’s true. As people who I follow on Instagram have started to sign up for Threads it has notified me that we’re following each other. There’s an option when you sign up to allow it to do that. And if you set up a private account, then you still have to approve people who follow you. But this way, you don’t have to worry about remembering to check if someone has signed up yet after you sign up.

amnesiacrobat,
@amnesiacrobat@lemmy.world avatar

I have two Instagram accounts and I created a Threads account on one. Searched for the other and there’s nothing I can find for it. Definitely can’t follow the second account on Threads.

I’m not trying to be a Meta apologist here. I trust them about as far as I can throw a car (especially given the insane amount of data collection mentioned in the App/Play Stores) but in my limited test I don’t see a way to follow an account until you activate it on Threads

arensb,

In fairness, it’s pretty smart, IMHO: one of the big difficulties in getting a social site started is getting a critical mass of people together to sustain conversation. Facebook already has plenty of Instagram users, so giving them all access to Threads seems like a pretty good way to bootstrap Threads.

RavenFellBlade,

Just deleted my Instagram account. I really want go delete Facebook and remove all things Meta from my life.

scrypt,
@scrypt@lemmy.world avatar

i did the reverse. deleted my facebook years ago but holding onto my instagram for now. i hardly use it anymore but it’s nice to keep in contact with old friends, but i’m on the fringe of deleting it

gnarly,
@gnarly@lemmy.world avatar

It’d be a luxury for me to delete insta but as a cartoonist that’d be just shooting myself in the foot. That said. I don’t have a FB anymore and only content post to both IG and Reddit these days. I do all my hangin’ here now :)

kioshi,
@kioshi@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see anybody posting there after the first day, save for brand and meme pages

ajf,

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    ttmrichter,
    @ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah. The Google+ approach to signing up “users”.

    melonpunk,
    @melonpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    Added to my circle!

    dan1101,
    @dan1101@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah all that mess with Google+ and all that came out of it was we lost the + operator in Google Search.

    wwaxwork,

    But you can’t close your threads account without closing your instagram account.

    eppic,
    @eppic@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not creating a “shadow account”, it is literally the same account. Threads is just a different frontend for what already existed with Instagram. And Meta would’ve been stupid, if they wouldn’t have use what they already have.

    Nezgul,

    Oh for sure, but it does make me wonder how accurate the sign up reports are.

    Does Threads report people who actually sign up and “claim” their “shadow accounts,” or does it count actual accounts and “shadow accounts?” The former is definitely a more accurate count, while the latter is basically numbers padding.

    SeaOtter,

    My understanding, it is reporting people who specifically elect to sign up for Threads using their Instagram account. On instagram profiles, they have been showing a badge with their Threads subscriber number that you only get when you elect to join Threads. This increases sequentially.

    The highest number on the badge should give a good indication of how many Instagram users at least “claimed” their Threads account.

    Fuzzypyro,

    I think something that a lot of the comments are missing here is the fact that threads, Instagram and Facebook all have been migrated from individual accounts to ‘meta’ accounts. I’m certain that we will see this happen with many platforms unless there is a serious shift in data protection laws. I don’t personally think it’s great that it’s the case but that’s just how it is. The meta platform is quite similar to how google migrated YouTube users to google accounts way back in the day. This monolithic structure ensures that they can keep your user data in a more streamlined database. From a sys admin and a business perspective it makes a lot of sense. From a user who doesn’t care and already uses all of those services perspective it makes a lot of sense. From a privacy conscious user perspective it makes no sense. Then again metas platform is in no way for the user who cares how their data is being handled.

    I guess another perspective is talking about interoperability. It kind of feels like they are taking the web3 (I know it’s a loaded term) approach but instead of applying it in a way that allows free development and communication in a way that basically pulls from decentralized/distributed databases you instead get a centralized monolithic model that creates interoperability within their own walled garden.

    dudebro,

    Then again metas platform is in no way for the user who cares how their data is being handled.

    This is very important. Users choose to give their data over to these companies.

    They should have that choice, regardless of the repercussions.

    Viking_Hippie,

    It’s not really a choice though, is it? They can’t access fb without “choosing” that and for many, Facebook used to be/is the only way some people have to socialize or just contact family members.

    It’s the student loans of privacy.

    dudebro,

    They do have a choice, just like we can choose to use the fediverse instead of the metaverse.

    They chose what’s popular, regardless of the consequences. They should be free to do that just as we should be free to do this.

    Personally, I think this should be more popular, but I don’t control the world and don’t care to.

    Viking_Hippie,

    Have you ever heard of a little thing called coercion? False choice? Emotional blackmail?

    To pretend that it’s a straightforward choice is downright asinine.

    dudebro,

    Lol, what?

    Viking_Hippie, (edited )

    They have something that people need. Not kinda want. NEED. They know this and they’re using that leverage to make people agree to things that they never would otherwise. It may technically be legal, but it’s extremely unethical and nowhere near an unencumbered choice.

    Do you get it now? If not, that’s too bad. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

    dudebro,

    Err… no they don’t.

    I think you need to brush up on the definitions of “want” and “need,” lol.

    Corkyskog,

    Not only that, there are parts of the world where FB provides the internet for free and its prohibitively expensive for those people to access the internet otherwise. You can’t realistically say those people have a choice.

    That’s not even broaching the topic of whether or not we should give people “the choice”. Generally things that are known to be harmful if used in certain ways aren’t allowed to be sold to the general public. We take away “choice” all the time to protect the average idiot, I don’t see how this is any different.

    crashez,

    Especially as in some countries, fb is The Internet for most people. Without a fb account I have no idea about events in my area and miss out on private sales.

    MaxVoltage,

    Dude there are people with the name poo poo pee pee on Facebook. I regret ever using my real name with Google and Facebook

    Kolanaki,
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    I do find it weird how so many people for both claimed their accounts were suspended or banned for not using a real name, when I never gave them my real name and have kept both of those accounts the entire time without issue. Maybe it’s because I don’t actually use Facebook; but I still use a lot of Google’s shit because there isn’t anything better yet.

    i_do_not_agree,

    It’s about email if you make account using email and email name and your name not match you will be ban. If you use your mobile number you will not be ban because they don’t know your real name you will only get banned if someone report you for using fake name

    Viking_Hippie, (edited )

    Meanwhile, I got my first ever Facebook ban because someone salty about losing an argument reported me for using a fake name. I was using my real name, which has a Scandinavian letter in it, and had to submit a picture of my fucking passport for fb to unlock my account 🤦

    melonpunk,
    @melonpunk@lemmy.world avatar

    I had my fake account deactivated for using a made up name a few years ago. I was forced to giving it a real fake name instead of a comedy one. Haven’t used it years now so I don’t even know if it’s still working.

    quazar,

    i knew accounts were being automatically created and thats why i don’t believe the numbers

    Harpuajim,

    Accounts are not automatically being created.

    vera,

    Threads isn’t “successful”, they just happen to own the social graph. Why can’t people see this?

    lem_dart,

    Why does everything have to be a conspiracy with some people? Threads literally and directly explains that it uses your Instagram account. They’re the same account. Nothing crazy. No magic. No oogie boogie. Just the same account.

    Lenins2ndCat,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    It definitely is oogie boogie, which is what makes it illegal in europe as it’s against gdpr, which is why it’s not available in europe.

    Goodie,

    They’re doing some dodgy stuff with your data, that’s for sure. But the sign-up is smooth. Instagram has a LOT of users, and Meta is leveraging that and making it super easy to share to IG that you have made said threads account (and if you don’t, they will do it for you). The FOMO is real.

    They have taken the biggest challenge to use a new social media platform, rebuilding your spidery web of follows, mutuals, weird interests, and friends, and made it basically transparent. It’s a UX marvel. The sign-up numbers reflect that IMO.

    Lenins2ndCat,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    Sharing data of users from one company to another company without their consent is literally what GDPR exists to stop. Instagram is one company. Threads is another company.

    If it isn’t oogie boogie then it literally wouldn’t have massive legislation against it preventing it worldwide for eu citizens.

    DaisyLee,

    Is threads a separate company though? It’s pretty explicit in saying “Threads an Instagram App”

    Lenins2ndCat,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    In European law it doesn’t matter. You try and bypass laws and the courts have none of it. It’s very “fuck around find out”. They already decided against them for antitrust for doing exactly that.

    That was the ruling [PDF] from the European Union’s highest court, the Court of Justice, when it upheld a decision by German antitrust regulators that Meta had abused its dominance in social media by milking users for information and swirling it together to serve up ads to users.

    If you bypass shit in the EU they slap you with something else and make an example of you.

    mob,

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  • Lenins2ndCat,
    @Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world avatar

    If you signed up for Valve in the EU for like Left 4 Dead or Half Life or something, it would be against the law for them to share that account with Steam?

    Account linking is usually done through a system that you opt into, agreeing to have that link.

    This is entirely different, it’s just “fuck it we’ve got all this data, we’ll share it across and use it regardless of consent or not”.

    While for other things it’s a completely external registration, for example I have a Steam account but also have to make a completely separate Capcom account for Street Fighter, then link the two together.

    The key component is that the end user consents before any data is shared, whereas Meta’s approach is just to do it regardless of consent, treating your private information as something you don’t have a right to control.

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