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0x1C3B00DA, in Ways to implement customizable feeds that shift with interests over time?
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Kbin just released Collections, its feature to allow users to create groups of magazines. The microblogging side of the fediverse has lists. It sounds like this is basically what you're asking for.

ContentConsumer9999,

I've never heard of . Can you how I can use them?

0x1C3B00DA,
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It looks like you're on kbin, which doesn't have lists. The equivalent feature is Collections but its fairly new. Collections are essentially arbitrary groupings of magazines, similar to reddits multireddits.

Lists on microblogging platforms allow you to manage multiple groupings of accounts instead of following them all. So your home timeline could be people you know IRL and you could have a list for different interests and you can view each one independently.

artair, in Why are trending posts on Mastodon mostly negatively politically oriented?
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I don’t think people appreicate the old axiom “when you look into the abyss, it also looks into you” in this case. For a long time, corporate social media algorithms drove what content you saw. This tended to be “outrage” content, because as others have mentioned, it gets clicks. But marinate in that long enough and YOU become the source of the outrage clickbait. The algorithm starts people down that path until their mentality becomes self-reinforcing. They post what they’re used to posting – angry stuff. And they seek out more even without behind-the-scenes manipulation of their feed. Now imagine all those Twitter refugees landing in the Fediverse with that kind of outlook. It’s not surprising that outrage and bile are trending.

The way to break this cycle is… just ignore it. I have an extensive list of keyword filters on Mastodon. It screens out 99% of the political content. I just don’t want to see it. I’m here to engage with people who share the same passions and hobbies as myself. THAT’S what makes my Fediverse social media experience better. It’s not a magical function of crossing the corporate/open-source boundary. I have to be responsible for curating my feed according to what I want to seek.

The same goes for Lemmy. I’m using Leomard as my client on macOS, and it allows me to block out any Lemmy instances I don’t want to see. And I set my default view to “subscribed,” not “local” or “all.” That prevents me from getting psychologically drenched with whatever angry or trollish content might be lurking in those feeds when I open the client. I also sort by “new” rather than “hot,” “most comments,” etc. It’s great that people have opnions about things, but I find relying on up/downvotes to be a poor way of discovering the content I want.

Long story short (too late): your social media experience in the Fediverse is yours to shape. If you rely on the defaults and flow with the tide, you’ll likely end up somewhere you don’t want to be. If you trim your sails and take the wheel, there are all sorts of wonderful destinations out here.

Don’t use other people’s anger and unhappiness as your compass.

Crul, in fediverse services - links

Some very good answers in this post: I’m aware of kbin, mastodon, and lemmy. Are there any other federated applications out there? : nostupidquestions, some random copy&paste:

Here’s a list of 130: the-federation.info/

this diagram

From https://fedi.tips/what-other-kinds-of-servers-are-on-the-fediverse/:

As well as Mastodon, there are lots of other server types on the Fediverse, for example:

  • BookWyrm – A social reading platform, an alternative to Amazon’s GoodReads
  • Friendica – A general social network with no character limits, sort of like Facebook used to be on its older interface
  • Funkwhale – Music and podcast storage and sharing
  • Kbin – Link aggregation and discussion, sort of like Reddit
  • Mobilizon – Event organisation, the Fedi’s alternative to Facebook Events
  • OwnCast – Video livestreaming with a chat window at the side, very much in the style of Twitch
  • PeerTube – YouTube-style video sharing site which uses P2P technology to allow even small servers to have videos go viral, as the more people view a video the more bandwidth it gets
  • PixelFed – Photo sharing site, similar in style to Instagram and Tumblr
  • WordPress – Independently hosted WordPress blogs can be turned into Fediverse servers using a special plugin
  • WriteFreely – Minimalist blog where focus is on the text, like a calmer version of Medium

…and that’s just some of them! If you’re a techy person, you can see more comprehensive lists of server types at FediDB and delightful fediverse apps.

vd1n,

Owncast, peertube, and pixelfed seem like something I want to get into!

Thanks.

dumples, in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
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For those on a Kbin instance you can follow the whole instance to see everything they post:

https://kbin.social/d/social.bbc

If this is a success many more should follow

amanaftermidnight,

is there a way to subscribe to that from lemmy?

dumples,
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I don't think so since lemmy doesn't integrate with mastodon like kbin

pbaesse,
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@dumples @jocanib @amanaftermidnight how can i follow kbin from mastodon??

Teppic, (edited )
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Same old. Just follow specific users by copying their full ID (e.g. @Teppic @kbin.social without the space) onto the search on Mastodon and follow as normal.

We should perhaps use hashtags more here because that would would be another way for Mastodon users to find/follow kbin content.

Going the other way to contribute to a kbin magazine from Mastodon, If you want the post to appear in a particular magazine, simply mention it in the post content, for example, "@fediverse @kbin.social" (no space) Note it will appear in the Microblog section.

pbaesse,
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ttmrichter, in Mastodon is useless (to me.)
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Mastodon is “dead” because you’re not making the switch from spoon-fed algorithmically-supplied content to content you have to actively seek out. Mastodon supplies tools for this, but if these aren’t for you, then yes, Mastodon is useless to you.

To make Mastodon “not dead” you have to take some actions of your own to become part, in effect, of an actual community. These steps helped me:

  1. Follow some of interest. As you find people posting interesting content on that hashtag, follow them. Engage with some of those directly, responding to their posts. Do this for a couple of weeks and you’ll have a full feed.
  2. Occasionally look into the local feed. Skip over stuff that bores you. Read stuff that interests you. If you see the same names making interesting content, follow them. Also, engage with the stuff that interests you by responding to posts.
  3. Make content as well as the replies mentioned above. Apply relevant so it’s findable. But keep in mind that the system is not going to stuff this in other people’s feeds on your behalf. This isn’t Twitter or any other corporate microblogging setup. You need to get followers, which you can get by following steps 1 and 2. Otherwise you’re just going to get the occasional person seeing your posts who is doing step 2.
  4. Boost boost boost boost boost. There’s no algorithm cramming posts into other people’s feeds. The only way things go “viral” in Mastodon is if people spread it around. You have to be part of the process instead of abrogating that to an algorithm designed to foster “engagement” by spreading dissent and hate.
favrion,
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I’ll make more of an effort to do that, although I’m still skeptical about the amount of content I’ll see.

ttmrichter,
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In the end it still may not be for you, and I’d like to stress this right now: that’s perfectly fine. Not every platform is for every user. If Lemmy serves your needs better, use Lemmy over Mastodon! It’s awesome!

bedheadkitten, (edited ) in deleted

I read on raddler that this is actually a privacy consern, the post are not actually delete just hidden, post link raddle.me/f/lobby. And I guess there should be delays in deletion across instances anyway since it is not centralized?

Edit: I found a longer explanation , link: raddle FAQ

Raddle’s strong privacy-focus and activist roots would make this a tricky proposition as federation depends on pushing user data to a multitude of different servers controlled by anonymous and often problematic (far right) people.

Rather than being decentralized as it’s often advertised, federated technology distributes data to a series of centralized servers owned by individuals with varying ethical beliefs, goals and motives. Anyone can set up a server and then fetch user-data from other servers to their server, giving them control and ownership over other people’s data and allowing them to use it indefinitely in ways the people may or may not approve of.

Furthermore, the federated technology currently in use in software such as Lemmy doesn’t really allow users to delete their own data. It lives on forever on all the servers its pushed to, creating a privacy nightmare and even serious legal issues due to the EU’s “right to be forgotten” laws. These laws are violated when the operators of the social media platform deliberately mirror all user-data to countless servers in perpetuity, even after it’s “deleted” by users.

In contrast, Raddle allows users to delete all their data from our server with a click of a button. Our server also doesn’t store the IP addresses of whitelisted users to further improve security.

Our users tend to heavily prioritize control over their data and have shown little interest in Raddle taking their posts and comments and deliberately pushing them to other sites they may or may not want to be associated with.

neuromancer,
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    bernieecclestoned,

    Nothing is ever deleted. Just create a new unrelated username and whatever you do, don’t use your real email address for sign-up.

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    MaxVerstappen,

    It’s best to assume everything you add to the internet is never deleted. That is the much more likely scenario.

    stebo02,
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    so raddle is part of the fediverse but not a lemmy instance?

    bedheadkitten, (edited )

    No the are not part of the fediverse, at the moment, mostly because of the privacy issue described in the faq. I think they are open to it in the future depending on how they solve the issue. But they are not commercial either, so they have no inzentive for ads or other company policies. Raddler is just one part of postmill, just like lemmy.world is one part of the fediverse.

    RxBrad, in Recommend some Mastodon accounts to follow

    Follow , my friend.

    That's the easiest way to find people with interests like your own.

    oesezetao,

    Yeah thanks, that is the way. I found very often content related to tech and FOSS, wich is great.

    CarlsIII,

    @RxBrad

    @oesezetao

    It can be spammy at times though. For example, I had to unfollow the hashtag because it was mostly bots posting YouTube links.

    Kaldo,
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    I had to unfollow most generic hashtags because it was just random people talking about anything and using the tags, often in foreign language, or it was some personal stuff I don't care about. It really gave me a bad first impression since it made mastodon look more like facebook or sth where people dump their personal stuff online, rather than a valid news source.

    I'd instead recommend just following news or publications or groups that actually curate their content.

    Banana_man, in How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse)

    Nothing good will come of federating with meta, the fediverse should simply stay out of their reach and realize whatever potential it may have.

    I think there might be another way to hurt it though that this article doesn’t seem to mention. Funnily enough, it’s also a theme of an asterix and obelix comic book, which the introduction referenced. This way would be monetization. Threads might try to “help” the fediverse by feeding the bigger instances money, therefore the hosts of the instances would be more open to negotiations with meta and accepting of their policies.

    I will compare this to YouTube which started paying all it’s big creators until they became dependent on the platform for a living and then started slowly implementing more and more rules that limit their freedom of expression. Remember how much PewDiePie used to swear in his getting over it videos? In another “pew news” or whatever it was called video I happened to watch he directly mentioned that he censors himself because he isn’t going to put his job on the line just to say “fuck”. Profit invites creators to comply with YouTube’s regulations even if they aren’t enforced violently always.

    The same pattern was used in the asterix comic I mention above. Ceasar decides to open a building complex almost next to the problematic for him village and so the residents flood the markets and are shocked at the low prices compared to Rome. As a result, the villagers start increasing prices and advertising their goods and services, neglecting their previous morals and ethos. In the end, however, the Romans lose again after (panoramix, I think?) makes them realize how much separation this has caused them, living only for their business. As a result they kick the Romans out of their village, once again united, and Caesar’s plans fail.

    I think both these stories could serve as a potential warning to anyone who might consider selling themselves out if meta adopts such a policy.

    mojo, in How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse)

    Meta does not give a shit to absorb the fedi. We are like a thousandth of their size, just a blip on their radar. I have no idea where people get this idea of self importance that Meta cares about their 10 user server.

    Banana_man,

    If they didn’t why would they develop tools to federate? It’s obvious that the threads project was sped up significantly following musk’s obliteration of Twitter, so they wouldn’t go out of their way to implement such a feature if they didn’t have a very specific reason for it.

    A company’s goal is maximization of profit, so don’t assume they intend anything else. The activitypub userbase is too small to be a significant addition to their userbase but in this way they can destroy it before it escapes their control. They don’t take risks. Mastodon could seriously compete with threads and it’s gaining popularity. If one more big boom happens it might be too late to stop the fediverse from competing with meta in the most cost efficient way possible. Do not be lured in by the false sense of security, meta wants us to help maximize their profit. We aren’t doing that right now so Meta wants to stop us (or limit us, whatever they deem more profitable)

    Steve, in Mastodon founder touts Threads' federation, saying it makes his X rival 'a far more attractive option'
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    Short sighted mistake. Terrible Idea.

    Adopt, Extend, Destroy Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. That’s the game plan. It’s worked so many times in the past.

    mojo,

    They don’t need to do that when the fedi is a thousandth of the size of their social networks lol. It’s hilarious that you think they need our user base.

    Steve,
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    They don’t care about the user base we have today. They want to eliminate the potential user base we may have in a decade.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod, in Average Lemmy Active Users by Month
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    I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best

    Toribor,
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    People complaining about a loss of users are the same people that will complain about performance issues next time there is a huge influx of users that stresses the infrastructure for popular instances.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
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    I’m way less mad about Kbin having issues than I ever was at Reddit

    haui_lemmy, in Mastodon and today's fediverse are unsafe by design and unsafe by default
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    The exact opposite is true. I am part of a very small minority and I made my own fediverse instances. Everyone who tries to go ableist/racist/misogynist or whathaveyou gets the boot. Very easy solution indeed.

    The issue right now is how hard it is to set up an instance. In my opinion, every router on the world should have instances running (and tunneled to not dox themselves) so people are not dependent on big instances.

    I would downvote this since it’s misleading af but it also sparks debate so I‘ll refrain.

    maegul, in is stop.voring.me dead again?
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    The admin (same as firefish.social) is distracted by school and work and appears to be absent from maintenance work. In the short to medium term, I wouldn’t bet on any reliability.

    It does seem that they’re still committing to the code base relatively recently, so the project is probably not dead.

    otter, in PSA: Sh.itjust.works is currently encountering issues
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    Thanks for sharing, I wonder what happened

    Blaze,
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    You can join the Matrix space in the instance sidebar to have a look. Basically, it’s a storage issue, but the admins have to investigate (I’m pretty sure they are still asleep as of now)

    slazer2au, in What existing organizations should start hosting fediverse instances? Which ones are already doing so?

    I am slightly shocked that Mozilla doesn’t have any fediverse services up and running.

    Tywele,

    But they do, don’t they? mozilla.social

    matt,
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    They also host a Matrix instance at chat.mozilla.org!

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