Marred by Lemmy.world’s admin being kind of a dick.
Positive overall, though. Mostly nitpicking. Too many communities demand “be nice!” and then do nothing about insufferable dolts who deserve occasional name-calling. Like we’re really in 2023 and still wringing our hands about whether someone on the web might use foul language. Frankly, if you’re moderating any kind of forum, and you can’t trust yourself to discern appropriate anger from unexcused vitriol? Quit.
Telling people to treat bad faith as if it’s good faith is the only way bad faith succeeds.
@mindbleach I've head a lot of things about the Lemmy developers and that's one of the reasons I moved to Kbin / Mbin. Hopefully over time communities that are dead rather decide to come together to create an actual quality bigger community as well as moderate better than just a simple 'be nice' system.
@OscarRobin Yeah some of the smaller communities on Lemmy and other instances should work together and try and create a 'bigger' community first before having to break up into different ones.
@Yearly1845 The content does need a lot of work on and variety of people and instances should come over time hopefully as some people don't like certain things, like you mentioning about tankies, maybe make a anti-tankie instance where you block each user that you feel fits your description allowing you and others who what way to not have to deal with others like that, it's the beauty of the fediverse.
My experience has been almost entirely positive. Lots of nice people. A few jerks, but that’s going to happen anywhere, and there are surprisingly few for a platform where you can essentially be anonymous.
I’m a mod of /c/Cooking, which is my way of contributing. Things won’t grow unless we help it along.
Since some communities aren’t quite so active, I tend to set my view All + Top 6 Hours instead of Subscribed. That gives me a nice variety of stuff to look at, plus it lets me discover new things.
@TheGiantKorean Yeah hopefully over time people from reddit's smaller communities can maybe move across to the Fediverse more, I'm trying to do that sort of thing by being active in communities such the ObsidianMD one. It seems like a lot of people are really nice and it seems like these social networks are less toxic for people to use over the normal social media that people still use.
Mastodon is great. Feels very much like the early days of Twitter and is a solid product so far. I have a PixelFed account, but I haven’t played around with it that much yet. Seems pretty good., though we shall see. I have an account on a Matrix server, but I’ve only signed-in and used it once; Discord is still far more useful.
Lemmy is…Eh. Idk. Rome (or reddit) wasn’t built in a day, I know. It can be difficult to find the content or discussion I want because people are so spread out. Usually when numbers are low, you don’t want people spread out because it makes communities feel empty, further driving people away.
But more than all that, I find the platform itself so limited. Like the moderation tools are terrible. Can’t even block a problematic domain. It seems like if you delete a comment in a thread, all the comments underneath it vanish. Makes it difficult to sometimes leave moderation comments. And Federation or Defederation seems way too binary to me; there should be shades of gray. Though I think the Fed/DeFed binary is true of all Fediverse services.
Like I enjoy spending time here. But I’m not yet convinced that Lemmy is the right platform. FWIW, I’m also trying Kbin on a separate account; in some ways seems better, but in other ways, just seems confusing.
@JCPhoenix Kbin is confusing to begin with I personally now use a offshoot / fork of it called Mbin what has a few quality of life fixes including lots of bug fixes due to the developers are really active and take the communities feedback into consideration.
Blocking full instances is more of a owner of the instance thing, so if you do know a bit of code and want to host your own Instance maybe do that as you can control what can connect with you a lot more.
@NorthWestWind Always good to see people wanting to post, I feel social media has become a place for you to repost, steal and try and do the 'next big thing' instead of just being themselves.
I like it so far, going back to reddit and seeing people cheering on genocide on world news is expected but still shitty, lemmy feels way less astroturfed but the trade off is less content.
@Rawdogg I really do hope we get more content in the future, sadly it seems like some people or bots are keep on posting about world news but I feel those get far less traction on here so that's good at least (in ways).
Not the one you replied to, but I don’t think so only because most people believe that it’s not as simple as your standard social media, and, to some extent, they’re right.
@brown567@pepsison52895 As brown mentioned, things like 3rd party apps really help with stream lining the process, I know I was confused about Instances but with things like Tumblr, Wordpress & Threads trying to get into the Fediverse it's a promising sign.
I explain instances more like login in with emails, you can still communicate with the other but can't log in on the other one unless you have another account.
Yes, for things that are focussed on the individual (microblogging Mastodon, photo sharing Pixelfed) or anonymous (threadiverse Lemmy/Kbin)
It will take much longer for things that are more about your direct community or for family members. That’s not really a Fediverse thing, I don’t think a new Facebook could take off easily either. It’s really difficult to get grandma to learn something new, and in some countries Facebook IS the internet (because of shady dealings and anticompetitive practices)
@otter The hope would be more towards existing platforms adapting for the Fediverse at that rate, Tumblr already want's to move across to the Fediverse what helps some people join the fun but META's Threads is also a step into the Fediverse and if that does well maybe they will add Instagram and Facebook into the mix as well allowing Grandma to still see people's posts even if you don't want to be on Facebook itself.
Pros: generally friendlier communities and discussions. Sufficiently shitty communities are defederated rather than tolerated until they gain the attention of advertisers. There are no advertisers, communities are voluntarily supported through donations.
Cons: Reddit is still about 100 times larger and therefore has more content. Sometimes posts/comments dont federate. Gatekeeping is still fairly common.
@xkforce Yeah we has some really good pros, hopefully we get larger over time as I know if we had even 10% of the content that Reddit has we would have so many more people want to use the Fediverse rather than Reddit.
I've never really seen any gatekeeping on here, is it certain communities? if it is then people can just create another sub with the same name on another instance lol
@xkforce Oh yeah I've seen that, it's annoying really as the Fediverse could be a really cool future for the internet I know I moved away from Lemmy instances a while back but still like the communities so hop back in for posts and stuff from my instance.
Its pretty good so far. Ive foubd there is a lot of spam im cobstantly blocking people for clear self promotion bs. Moderation seems to not be as good in this regard but i do appreciate what feels like a commitment to better free speach. Other than that we are just lacking people and content been trying to adsress both and i think we will get there eventualy
The only thing I don’t like about the fediverse is the constant stream of people blathering on about how “we” supposedly need to centralize and homogenize it and fill it up with botspam, so that easily confused morons with short attention spans will move here.
@Rottcodd I know one of the bits of content I hate is the cross-posted news stuff, yes I saw it the other 50 posts you done of it. I've already tried to get friends involved in the Fediverse and some really refuse to even look at it due to the open source-ness of it.
This type of cynical, self-righteous, pompous attitude is not helpful. No one is advocating for homogenized bot spam. They’re trying to grow a community that has a novel structure.
And if you think anyone potentially interested in coming here is merely an “easily confused moron with a short attention span,” then you’re part of the problem. And it says more about you than them.
Very positive on mastodon. Mostly positive on Lemmy. It has some of the same problem with trolls and stuck-up/rude posters that Reddit does but for the most part. 90% of my interactions are positive. Probably closer to 95%
Hate cars for sure. Don’t hate farmland. Actually, I’m from the Midwest and what I really hate is the farmland being bought so we can just put more swaths of 1 story stripmalls on it. Some of the most fertile land in the world and we put yet another sprawling tj maxx/target/huge grocery store on it.
I encourage urbanization in dense areas so we can maximize fields. All farms should be pro dense cities so we can keep farms as farms.
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