s_v,

I want to believe in the existence of souls, however ultimately we just don’t have the evidence to back it up.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m agnostic, so obviously my view on that is that we simply don’t know.

Venutianxspring,

Nope. I think the idea of a soul, afterlife comes from humans deep seated need to be special. We’re just animals, enjoy your life while you can.

andallthat,

all these “deleted by creator” posts in a thread about atheism sound a bit ominous. @Jongaros are you ok?

Kissaki,
@Kissaki@feddit.de avatar

No. Soul is an imaginary concept for ideas and claims. And people think of different things when they think of it.

We are an inherently physical entity. A vastly complex system that very interestingly enables consciousness to arise from it.

But when you remove the body it lives in there is nothing left of it. Other than the influences it had in its past.

Jongaros,

No. I believe soul is a human construct that is meant to be self defense mechanism to feel like we are special instead of bunch of meat with chemicals.

Jongaros,

No. I believe soul is a human construct that is meant to be self defense mechanism to feel like we are special instead of bunch of meat with chemicals.

Jongaros,

No. I believe soul is a human construct that is meant to be self defense mechanism to feel like we are special instead of bunch of meat with chemicals.

Chufi,
@Chufi@lemmy.one avatar

Richard Dawkins said something along the lines of : "You have a brain that works by nerve impulses, and when that decays, what could possibly be left "

stappern,

No,no evidence was ever shown.

novibe,

“Soul” is just consciousness. Which many people seem to equate to the brain here.

There is 0 scientific evidence that consciousness has anything to do with our brains. Much to the contrary actually.

Consciousness truly is one of the biggest mysteries of life. We all experience it, but the more you observe it, the less you can find it.

It may feel at first as it’s a phenomena of the brain, of the mind. But soon after you start paying really close attention to it, you realize that consciousness is behind the mind. It’s underneath it.

It observes the mind. It observes everything. And that’s what it is. Perceiving. Aware of everything.

Its the only indivisible and irreducible thing in the universe that we ever found. Consciousness just is. It is the awareness in you. It is the awareness in everything.

When we crack consciousness, all these talks of “souls”, “god”, “atheism”, will seem just silly tbh.

Kissaki,
@Kissaki@feddit.de avatar

This makes no sense to me. It's just generic platitudes and a wild claim.

You say "quite the contrary", claiming there is scientific evidence of consciousness having nothing to do with our brains. Where can I find this evidence?

I couldn't follow any of your reasoning. Can you summarize your central thesis? Because we observe...?

I don't see how conscience could not have anything to do with our brain when that is where it arises.

Fenzik, (edited )

There is 0 scientific evidence that consciousness has anything to do with our brains. Much to the contrary actually.

Source? Everything I’ve read on the topic suggests that it’s everything to do with the brain - damaged brain = no consciousness, even if the rest of the body fine.

Its the only indivisible and irreducible thing in the universe that we ever found. Consciousness just is.

Elementary particles would like a word.

Saigonauticon,

It seems like a way to take all the things I don’t understand particularly well, and put them in a category that I fail to define precisely.

My preference is not to do that, because I have a hard time believing in something that I can’t characterize reasonably well.

Communist,
@Communist@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t think soul has a good enough definition to say whether or not it does exist.

Soul kinda just means nothing to me.

BendyLemmy, (edited )
@BendyLemmy@lemmy.ml avatar

I think ‘soul’ is not something which exists in itself - it is the idea of the essence of a thing, the thing which causes an individual life.

So theories go around that there are spiritual beings separate from the physical (debatable) and I personally think that it extends to all life, such that trees can have awareness which can also extend beyond their physical bodies.

As such, they obviously exist - but their exact definition and nature is quite hard to grasp. I don’t think they can survive physical death.

fermionsnotbosons,

I haven’t see any measurable proof of one, or any experiment proposed that would render the idea of a soul falsifiable or not. Honestly, the current debate in philosophy/neuroscience on the existence (or non-existence) of free-will seems like a more important question, that if answered in the negative would have major implications on even the definition of the word ‘soul’.

Fun question though, I’ve enjoyed reading the diversity of thought on the matter in this thread. :)

czarrie,
@czarrie@lemmy.world avatar

A soul is at best a description of the electrical and quantum interactions that take place in our brain, a personified phenotype of the sum of these things occurring in our head (and to a degree our eyes, mouth, ears, and skin).

I don’t believe in the soul in the traditional sense as it implies that there is one version of me – is my soul my 9yo self, my 20-something alcoholic self, the self as of this moment, or my Alzheimer’s-ridden self when I die? If it’s supposed to be a “perfect” version of me when I pass, then it’s kind of funny, because my spirit is, in a sense, a version of me that I’ve never actually met and wouldn’t recognize.

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