How does everyone feel about Google Pixel phones?

Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

Sorry for the delay for the weekly. Server’s not that stable right now, maybe we should start the thread on Sundays instead.

I always like to switch things up once in a while because it’s fun. So, let’s get back to the brand discussion this week for the Google Pixel. We’ll do a discussion on repairability next week. Again, ideas are always welcome here.

I’ve never used a Pixel, but people around here should know that I’ve been very critical of Google’s product decisions over the years, and the Pixel is no exception. In my point of view, discontinuing the Nexus series, buying out the talents from the remains of HTC and starting an official “made by Google” phone is the equivalent of reddit buying out Alien Blue to make the official reddit app. I think it’s the event that scared big Android manufacturers like Samsung enough to start making their own ecosystem away from Google, as they are concerned that Google may start locking software features to their own phones instead of improving Android overall (rightfully so, I might add).

It really makes no business sense at all to turn your manufacturing partners into your competitors, but then again, it’s Google.

With that being said, the first years of the Pixels has been marred with growing pains. Whereas the Nexus line has always been barebones, no frills development devices, it seemed to me that the people who made Pixels don’t even use Android and are insistent on turning Pixel into iPhones, removing the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 despite the antagonistic ad from the original Pixel, Pixel exclusive software features like Google camera that necessitating the need of rom mods, as well as the quality issues that seems to be inherited from the Nexus days just really soured me from considering Pixels, as I think it’s against the spirit of openness that made Android great.

But it seems like in recent years, they finally figured out that a large percentage of people who bought Androids not because they can’t afford iPhones, but because they like Android, and I see the introduction of the “a” series as progress. The recent Pixel ad campaign also made me think that they finally figuring it out: people want different things, trying to turn Android into worse versions of iPhones was not going to work, so they should be trying to make the best Android for Android users instead.

(It’s also the reason I think all the previous reddit clones failed, but Lemmy will be the one that finally succeeds.)

kapx132,
@kapx132@lemmy.world avatar

I like the custom operating systems that are available for it, however to my knowledge none of the phone networks in Poland have it for sale so the only option would be to import the phone wich would cost about the monthly minimum wage. So i will stick with my old Sony xperia M5 until it breaks and then il think about what phone to buy.

bigschnitz,

They used to be fantastic, but for various reasons Google have been reducing the quality of their products for some time.

The android 12 update really hurt the UI/UX by limiting customization, adding big obnoxious qs tiles that obstruct notifications for no reason (that I am constantly activating by accident), removing the wifi toggle and wasting home screen real estate with an ‘at a glance’ widget that isn’t useful (it’s like a wish.com version of Google now), you need a custom default program manager to let it open search results in browser without pushing shit apps (like reddit official). Also wasn’t the point of pure android to avoid bloatware? Why am I carrying google TV, YouTube, wallet, Google money, fit, Google one, gpay, spy assistant, lens, meet etc?

As bad as the recent software direction is, the hardware is worse. My pixel 7 pro new has worse battery life than my pixel 5 had after 2 years of constant use, it overheats and throttles doing basic tasks (like maps), the glass back is among the most slippery things I’ve ever touched, the curved screen has an infuriating glare persistent no matter how you hold it, the fingerprint sensor is unreliable and in an awkward place, there’s no capacitive gesture to drop notifications shade and “double tap” gesture meant to replace it flat out doesn’t work. The charging is super slow, the curved screen follows the curved screen trend of breaking easily, all phones in the current line up are too large to use comfortably with one hand, they deleted the headphone jack to sell shit earbuds (yes that was ages ago but it’s still stupid).

All in, I’d trade my pixel 7 pro in for a gen 5 model or earlier in a heartbeat. Been a long time Google/nexus user but however good the old phones were, my next phone won’t have a tensor!

GenderNeutralBro,

My recent upgrade path was Pixel 2 -> OnePlus 7 Pro -> Pixel 7. Previously I used Nexus phones as well.

All of Google’s phones seem to have at least one glaring issue. In the case of the Pixel 2, it was the skimpy RAM and low max brightness.

With the Pixel 7, it’s the crappy fingerprint scanner, poor GPU/CPU performance, and surprisingly, the UI. I used to favor Google phones specifically because they had clean UIs with no bullshit, but holy moly, Google went off the deep end with Android 13. The wasted space everywhere is absurd. You can’t even read text in the quick settings because they have such enormous empty borders on all sides. They literally use marquee scrolling, like it’s a 1990s GeoCities page. I had to change my screen DIP settings in developer options to make it tolerable.

The nav bar is stupidly large. Even the gesture bar is stupidly large, sitting permanently at the bottom of my screen while doing absolutely nothing.

The performance is noticeably worse than my last phone. I was not expecting a speed demon, but I was certainly expecting an upgrade over a 3-year-old phone. Gaming performance is bad, and made even worse by the fact that Google only allows 90fps on specific hard-coded games, with no way for the user to override it. Games that run smoothly at 90fps on my old OnePlus 7 Pro stutter at 60fps on the Pixel 7.

Aside from that, it’s a great phone. Battery life is fine. Screen brightness is good. GPS and 5G performance is good. I can still recommend it as a phone for casual use — you can’t beat the price for what you get. But it’s definitely not a phone for power users.

My next phone will likely not be a Pixel. It’s been a while, so I might give Samsung another shot next time. If I catch a good sale on an S23 Ultra I might even upgrade this year.

Delusional,

Haha I’ve had the pixel 7 for a while now and never even noticed the gesture bar at the bottom doing nothing there. First time ever using it after reading your post

nightynight, (edited )

Had a Pixel 3 where the screen died exactly two days after the warranty ends.

Loved the picture it took (even compared to my S23 now) and the fluidity.

Hate the Google quality control. Seeing pixel 6 modem issues and pixel 7 camera glasses, it never improves.

denton,

I used the 2 and currently use the 4a (coming up to 3 years this Oct) but I think that’s the end of the line for me on pixels cause they’re just getting too big for someone with really small hands.

My three wants (in order or priority) for phones are: 1) reasonably small enough (pixel 4a just about fits into this criteria); 2) fingerprint scanner; 3) headphone jack

I’ve got a tiny jelly star from unihertz coming and if that doesn’t work out I’ll probably have to go zenphone cause they’re just about the size of the 4a.

Pity as I do like the pixel line

JimBean,

I completely agree with you. Selling my Zenfone 9 on eBay right now though, because they’ve decided to stop us from unlocking the bootloader.

I refuse to use Android as stock, so now I’ve gone and bought a Pixel 6 Pro. Not looking forward to the size as my 4a 5G is already too big, but hoping 4x camera is worth all the trade offs.

My ZF9 and the ZF8 are the best phones I’ve ever had apart from the aforementioned flaw. The ZF8 had problems with overheating and battery life, but the ZF9 completely solved those. The size is perfect, and the headphone jack is just a necessity. Gutted to have to give it up, but I’ve completely lost faith in Asus thanks to the bootloader bullshit

denton,

Oh, what does stopping users from unlocking the bootloader do? It’s sad to hear that it’s a decisive factor if the zenphone 9 was otherwise perfect

JimBean,

It means you can’t flash custom ROMs or root your device, so you can’t tweak the system or remove spyware beyond using ADB.

ASUS has since backtracked, saying they will allow bootloader unlocking, but I’m still getting rid of my Zenfone.

JimBean,

Just looked up the jelly star - wow !! Awesome little phone. If I wasn’t a photographer and didn’t need custom roms, I’d definitely buy one.

Will you let us know how it goes?!

denton,

Will do! It’s still a month or so off being shipped but I’m excited about it!

JimBean,

Great !! :D

peetabix,
@peetabix@lemmy.world avatar

I recently bought a pixel 6 pro (went from an LG G7). Its a nice upgrade. I’m slowly replacing (and deactivating) the google apps with open source ones. I may install a custom ROM at some point.

7upCoconut,

I’m on my 3rd Pixel (2,3A XL, 6). They’re good phones. Updates are pretty regular and support is fairly long lived. The cameras are fantastic. The software and interface is barebones. No bloat.

The only downside I would put out there is that they sometimes run hot. Like hotter than any other phone I’ve ever had. Suddenly and uncomfortably hot in your pocket.

I have zero interest in a foldable screen and it’s going to be years before I’d ever trust one.

Kalkaline,
@Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

That’s what my 4a 5G is doing right now, it also doesn’t connect to my car’s Android Auto, but I don’t know if that’s a phone thing or the car.

horrorslice,

Are you using wireless or USB? Mine is extremely finicky and I have to swap cables often. It’ll charge, but stop connecting to Android Auto.

Kalkaline,
@Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

USB, the car says the phone isn’t responding and I kind of believe the car. My phone does some weird stuff with background apps and changing the battery optimization doesn’t help. I think it probably runs out of space in RAM.

HobbitFoot,

Since LG left making phones, I’m buying Pixels since I really don’t like what Samsung is doing and I don’t trust my Google account to the different Chinese companies.

I’ve got a Pixel 7 Pro and it is ok, but battery issues are worse than other phones and I’ve had issues with overheating that I’ve never had with other phones.

rab,

Try deleting and adding your fingerprint again

alansuspect,

I’ve got the 6 Pro. I cracked the screen which sucked, but for the price they should probably come with a cover.

The fingerprint scanner on the screen works less than half the time. The only thing I’ve really been impressed with is the camera, other than that I’d go any other phone.

I used to have a Xiaomi Rednote 9 Pro and loved it. Not sure how secure Xiaomi stuff is but was very happy with it, plus the fingerprint scanner was on the side and worked much better.

applejacks,
@applejacks@lemmy.world avatar

Good but overhyped.

Saturdaycat,
@Saturdaycat@kbin.social avatar

I have a 6a and have been emulating games with it and playing remote play with my backbone. Super enjoying it

DeltaTangoLima,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

After staying loyal to Samsung for about a decade, always with flagship models, I had a terrible experience with the Fold3. It was so bad that, when I finally pushed hard enough for Samsung Support to admit I’d been sold a lemon, I was ready to give up.

I sold the replacement Fold4 they sent me and got a Pixel 7. Honestlty, I now wish I hadn’t waited this long to make the jump.

Things I like the most:

  • The speed with which updates are released, directly: I’m accustomed to having to wait for my provider to release Samsung updates
  • The way the updates are applied: no more 30 minute reboots waiting for the Samsung firmware to install
  • The lack of bloatware: 'nuff said
  • The speed of the device itself: see above point

I guess the thing that nags at me the most is I still dislike Google as a company.

I haven’t explored custom ROMs yet - still unsure where that leaves me with access to my company’s resources (we have very stringent security policies, actively enforced), plus I need to do a heap of research to understand what (if any) features of the stock Pixel I’d lose. There may or may not be some deal breakers in that list.

beta_tester,

When the first pixel came out I was kind of jealous about the camera/app. I thought it made astonishing pictures. Today, I’ve got a pixel 6 and my huawei p20 pro probably made better photos. Huawei’s camera app is awesome compared to google’s gcam. Google’s gcam might be great if you don’t know too much about photography and foss apps. Now, I know a lot about photography and foss and I really dislike that gcam shoots better photos than other apps on a pixel phone. Videos from other apps are a joke compared to gcam, it’s crazy. I hate the pixel camera. And pixel 8 will be better again but you know what? A fucking 20 year old DSLR still shoots better photos than it.

jochem,

A DSLR doesn’t fit in your pocket… I’m really happy with my Pixel 6a camera. The night shot mode is really nice. Sure, I can get better shots with my mirrorless and a tripod, but I’m not gonna carry those with me all day (I hardly bring my mirrorless, let alone the tripod).

I haven’t explored other camera apps. I assume they haven’t implemented all the software magic that’s running on that Tensor chip?

NightOwl,

Yeah, best camera to me is one you’ll always have on you. I don’t even has a dslr and likely will never bother, since I don’t really go places with the specific intent of taking photos. So whatever is conveniently at hand is what wins out.

d3Xt3r,

I’ve always been a Stock Android fanboy, so I loved the Pixel phones. However, for reasons, I got myself a Galaxy Fold 4 last year, which I fell in love with. I can’t see myself going back to a regular phone now, and for me to get a Pixel Fold, Google would really have to improve Android’s multitasking capabilities. On my Galaxy Fold for instance, I can have three tiled windows in a split-screen layout, or can have several floating windows of regular apps, which can be minimized into floating chatheads. With these floating windows, I can freely resize them, hide the header and even change their transparency levels. Which is great if you want to keep an eye out on some chat or Uber Eats or something whilst you are reading a book in full-screen. Having gotten used to these multitasking features, I can’t see myself going back to stock Android, until these are implemented.

skymtf,
@skymtf@pricefield.org avatar

I have a pixel 6 and generally like it. Googles stock rom is where my issues with the pixel come up. Generally its not spookier than any other googled android phone. The rom looks good when the device is knew but from what I’ve seen online it tends to get slower after 2 years. This is nor an issue for me however since I moved over the graphineOS.

cyberpunk007,

There’s no technical reason the phone should slow down after 2 years unless newer OS versions are more straining, or all those years of gummed up apps are taking their toll. I’m on a 6 pro, which is now nearly 2 years old, not slow in the slightest.

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