How does everyone feel about Google Pixel phones?

Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

Sorry for the delay for the weekly. Server’s not that stable right now, maybe we should start the thread on Sundays instead.

I always like to switch things up once in a while because it’s fun. So, let’s get back to the brand discussion this week for the Google Pixel. We’ll do a discussion on repairability next week. Again, ideas are always welcome here.

I’ve never used a Pixel, but people around here should know that I’ve been very critical of Google’s product decisions over the years, and the Pixel is no exception. In my point of view, discontinuing the Nexus series, buying out the talents from the remains of HTC and starting an official “made by Google” phone is the equivalent of reddit buying out Alien Blue to make the official reddit app. I think it’s the event that scared big Android manufacturers like Samsung enough to start making their own ecosystem away from Google, as they are concerned that Google may start locking software features to their own phones instead of improving Android overall (rightfully so, I might add).

It really makes no business sense at all to turn your manufacturing partners into your competitors, but then again, it’s Google.

With that being said, the first years of the Pixels has been marred with growing pains. Whereas the Nexus line has always been barebones, no frills development devices, it seemed to me that the people who made Pixels don’t even use Android and are insistent on turning Pixel into iPhones, removing the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 despite the antagonistic ad from the original Pixel, Pixel exclusive software features like Google camera that necessitating the need of rom mods, as well as the quality issues that seems to be inherited from the Nexus days just really soured me from considering Pixels, as I think it’s against the spirit of openness that made Android great.

But it seems like in recent years, they finally figured out that a large percentage of people who bought Androids not because they can’t afford iPhones, but because they like Android, and I see the introduction of the “a” series as progress. The recent Pixel ad campaign also made me think that they finally figuring it out: people want different things, trying to turn Android into worse versions of iPhones was not going to work, so they should be trying to make the best Android for Android users instead.

(It’s also the reason I think all the previous reddit clones failed, but Lemmy will be the one that finally succeeds.)

mycroftholmess,

They’re awesome! But kinda unusable when you’re outside and connected to mobile data. Phone heats up quicker than usual, battery doesn’t last as long. I’m on a Pixel 6A, for context.

covert_czar,
@covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If not nothing i would choose pixel and install lineage os on it

newIdentity,

Why not GrapheneOS

covert_czar,
@covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Grapheneos too

d3Xt3r,

I’ve always been a Stock Android fanboy, so I loved the Pixel phones. However, for reasons, I got myself a Galaxy Fold 4 last year, which I fell in love with. I can’t see myself going back to a regular phone now, and for me to get a Pixel Fold, Google would really have to improve Android’s multitasking capabilities. On my Galaxy Fold for instance, I can have three tiled windows in a split-screen layout, or can have several floating windows of regular apps, which can be minimized into floating chatheads. With these floating windows, I can freely resize them, hide the header and even change their transparency levels. Which is great if you want to keep an eye out on some chat or Uber Eats or something whilst you are reading a book in full-screen. Having gotten used to these multitasking features, I can’t see myself going back to stock Android, until these are implemented.

got2best,

Curious what device are you using right now op?

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I use a Moto Edge to post here.

skymtf,
@skymtf@pricefield.org avatar

I have a pixel 6 and generally like it. Googles stock rom is where my issues with the pixel come up. Generally its not spookier than any other googled android phone. The rom looks good when the device is knew but from what I’ve seen online it tends to get slower after 2 years. This is nor an issue for me however since I moved over the graphineOS.

cyberpunk007,

There’s no technical reason the phone should slow down after 2 years unless newer OS versions are more straining, or all those years of gummed up apps are taking their toll. I’m on a 6 pro, which is now nearly 2 years old, not slow in the slightest.

Mon0,

The launcher forces the at a glance widget on the homescreen first 2 rows. That wouldn‘t be a problem in itself, but this version of at a glance is super broken and only works 3/10 times as intended. You can the put the original widget underneath it and test it and the original version will work 10/10 Times.

Not working means weather or events are not shown and there is no shortcut to them if you click there if if they are shown you alway go to your calendar. Also the days are written in short in that version so Thu. instead of Thursday in the original widget.

dystop,
@dystop@lemmy.world avatar

I sold my Pixel 6 pro to get a Samsung S23. Unfortunately the main issues I had with the pixel were hardware-related and recurring, and while samsung isn’t ideal, most of their issues could be solved with a one-time fix.

Main issues I had with the Pixel:

  • Fingerprint sensor doesn’t work with privacy screens. Period. It’s not a question of buying cheap privacy screens, the Pixel fingerprint reader is optical and is just not compatible with privacy screens. Samsung uses an ultrasonic reader which is compatible with privacy screens.
  • The 6 Pro was unwieldy and ridiculously large, the smaller 6 doesn’t have the triple camera setup. Samsung is one of the few that doesn’t sacrifice phototaking ability in a smaller form factor.
  • That godawful new quick toggles UI is horrible. The quick toggles are ridiculously large, and who decided it would be a good idea to merge the wifi and internet toggles?! I managed to use adb commands to split the toggles in 12, but that broke with 13.

Issues I had with the Samsung:

  • Bloat - this was mainly in the form of some preinstalled software, but unlike in the early days of Samsung, I could uninstall most of the bloat easily without resorting to root, adb, etc. No bloat (pixel) is still better than bloat that can be uninstalled (samsung), but this problem was permanently solved after about 10 minutes.
  • Some Samsung native apps have horrible permission settings - eg Samsung Pay requires access to your contacts, and if you deny it any one permission, the app just force closes. I got around this by uninstalling the offending apps and using alternatives (e.g. google pay) - again, a one-time issue. fuck the intrusive permissions.
pewgar_seemsimandroid,

calyx os

nullPointer,

been a pixel user since they were called nexus. about as minimal bloat as you can get without going FOSS.

currently still on a 3a as it still gets the job done. I use my old nexus6 with FOSS as a basic handheld around the house. smart thermostat, sprinkler controller, throw YouTube up on the TV, etc.

Aasikki,

I love that the pixel extra features are useful instead of stupid gimmicks like some manufacturers have.

chickenfish,
@chickenfish@lemmy.world avatar

Current Device: Pixel 7 Pro Previous: Galaxy S4, LGG4, S8, S10e.
Got the Pixel because there was a sale plus a really good trade value on the s10e

It’s fine.
Im not a heavy phone user. Im not doing a whole lot of gaming or videos or developing or whatever power users do, and it suits my needs. There are a few things I miss from Samsung, but overall the UI is fine and the battery is normally loads better than anything Ive had in a couple of years.

Blaidd,

My last 3 phones have been a Pixel 2 XL, a Samsung Note Ultra, and a Pixel 7. I may just be lucky, but I have never had a single problem with any of my Pixel/Nexus phones.

I decided to try the Note for the s pen a few years ago and found it to be a much, much worse experience. Software on the Pixel is head and shoulders above all of Samsung’s bloatware, and the Note’s screen died for no reason after a year and a half. Meanwhile, the Pixel 2 XL is still going strong (I had to use it for a bit after the Note died), and the Pixel 7 is a great phone.

RBWells,

I had the original Pixel & just recently it started failing so I got the pixel 5. I like them, they are basic and good quality and small enough to hold easily. Compared to my previous Samsung phone and husband’s current Galaxy phone I find it feels cleaner and faster, not as many pre-installed apps. Yes it has all the Google services installed, but I use those and it has not all the Samsung/T-mo stuff on top of that like the Galaxy does.

In general it does everything I want and nothing I don’t want but agree the default text app not being SMS is stupid. RCS should be opt-in, sometimes texts to the husband don’t get delivered even though both phones support the protocol.

BubblyMango,

I like pixel from a price to hardware performance ratio, but fuck the software side. Need a custom launcher coz the official one forces google calender to cover a whole line in your homescreen, and google search takes up a whole line on EVERY PAGE ON YOUR APPS HOME (why the bloody hell do i need this google search icon? It opens up some weird browser that is even worse than chrome). A million and one google product “suggestions” are being thrown at you for the first month of usage, official music app is youtube music, so literally everytime you open ot you need to tell it “yes im sure i want to use my offline music and not subscribe to youtube music”, the customizable shortcuts are basically “this can either activate google assistent or do nothing”, the worst 3 button navigation bar i have ever seen - You cant even swap the back button from left to right and jt hides itself at random occasions, evetytime you open your SMS you need to tell it you dont want to use google’s weird internet based sms feature (yes, it never stops suggesting it until you agree, 6 months already). The automatic adjustable brightness is terrible and already blinded me randomly when i tried to browse the internet before going to bed, the automatic screen wqkeup is junky at best, it has a weird feature that every time you.lay your phone over the screen it locks with no way to turn that off. Call recording apps barely work, closing all open apps it purposely innefficient (you have to scroll all the way left instead of it being immediatly available), the permission option of “ask every time” is broken because every third time it stops asking you to enable it and you have to enable the permission constantly and later remove it again.

Fuck google’s OSes.

marmo7ade,

Software is the single reason I have been using a Pixel phone since they launched.

Most of your complaints are subjective nonsense and I don’t care to argue or refute them. Because you’re most likely an apple fanboi who is lying.

Need a custom launcher coz the official one forces google calender to cover a whole line in your homescreen, and google search takes up a whole line on EVERY PAGE ON YOUR APPS HOME

Oh my god. Are you going to be OK? How will you survive this tragedy?

Ya I don’t care. These are minor issues.

Pixel call screening is a life changing feature. I have not receive or spoken to a spam caller in over 3 years. This feature alone will keep me using Pixel.

Llamajockey,

Yeah idk what he’s talking about, and the three button complaint is an odd and outdated one since most come with gestures out of the box and you can opt to use the default 3 button layout which is back button, home, and menu.

BubblyMango,

It obviously has the gestures, but i prefer the 3 button navigation. However, it is barely supported. The back button is the most important button of the 3, but it is only available on the lefr side, meaning it is far away from the thumb for right handed people. This is the first phone i have ever seen that doesnt allow swaping the side of it.

Llamajockey,

Ok just tested and there is no option. Do you know if this was an option on older pixel models?

BubblyMango,

Dont know. Pixel 6 is my first pixel phone. I had galaxy in which this was the default, and onePlus which provided the option.

The navigation bar also doesnt have other options, like making it appear constantly and not disappear on random occasions.

Im happy for you that you like your phone though.

BubblyMango,

“an apple fanboi who is lying”

Literally had to check if im on reddit after seeing this. I dont like a product you do so im just an apple bot bashing every other phone?

HalcyonReverb,

I love Pixels, they’re easily my favorite option. I’m currently on a Pixel Fold (yes I’m an idiot, but that’s beside the point), and I also enjoy my Pixel Watch and Buds Pro and A series.

I carried an iPhone for work for 3 years and just don’t care for iOS in a personal daily carry capacity. It’s fine for a work phone though, but I also enjoy the way that Android handles work profiles. I do own an iPad though, and that’s fine. I would consider replacing it with a Pixel tablet someday when it’s time though, especially if there’s a 120hz display option by then.

I’m not a big fan of Samsung’s design choices or bloatware tendencies. The kitchen sink approach isn’t for me when the majority of it is stuff that I won’t use, and it feels sloppy to me switching between apps and one uses Samsung’s design language, and then the other uses Material You. I like the consistency you get on a Pixel.

I use my camera a ton, so Pixel is an obvious choice there. Software features like call screening are indispensable for me too. I have been seeing daily spam calls again recently, and watching my phone silently discard them is always enjoyable. I also enjoy getting updates as soon as they are released, which is something that always bothered me with other manufacturers. I have made quite a few people happy by recommending the A-series to them. Wonderful budget-midrange value options.

Where would I go if Pixel went away? Tough question. The Nothing phone seems alright, I could see that working. The Zenphone 10 looks nice as well. I think I would explore one of those options before considering Samsung or Apple again.

JiveTurkey,

I have a 165hz monitor for gaming but in a mobile device I don’t see the point. Low latency and accurate colors seems more important. High hz phone displays just seem like a waste of battery (and probably build cost) for the sake of needlessly pumping numbers.

HalcyonReverb,

You are correct that it isn’t really an essential feature, but it gives a nice boost in fluidity that I really enjoy, and directly ties into latency, which you mentioned as being important, which I agree with. Color accuracy still seems to be very good on modern flagships regardless of HZ, according to those who test those things.

The battery impact isn’t as bad as you probably expect actually, most newer high hz phone displays are LTPO, which allows them to scale down to I believe as low as 10hz, such as when you are reading or the AOD is on. I believe it will also scale down to match the frame rate of a full screen video too, which can also help.

As far as cost, I’m sure it’s not “free”, but now that OEMs like Apple, Samsung, and Google are all ordering them in bulk, I imagine it’s kind of just built into the category of display spec that they are ordering. For what it’s worth, the $300 Galaxy A23 features a 120hz display. Of course, Samsung makes the display, but that cost still has to be accounted for somewhere, especially as their profits are currently down 95%.

But yeah, overall I just enjoy a high refresh rate. My monitor, TV, iPad, and phone all support it, so I enjoy the consistency. I recommend trying a high HZ phone in person sometime if you haven’t. I find that it adds a lot to the fluidity of the UI both visually, and in terms of feel, as it feels like it follows my finger more closely when scrolling, for example. Of course, you can always turn it off and cap it at 60hz as well.

Mon0,

Recently got a 7a for work. Personally using iOS.

  • The phone has some rly nice features like transcribing recorder.
  • Some other nice features are hidden in the system settings as widgets for some bizarre reason.
  • The camera is quite good even in zoom
  • The camera does not take color accurate pictures at all they are heavily modified to look very vivid
  • Face unlock works surprisingly good in good light for android phones but only if you don‘t care about security
  • the fingerprint sensor is the biggest fail and makes using this phone a chore. That thing is so unreliable, I don‘t know if I ever had an Android phone with a worse fingerprint sensor. 5 / 10 recognitions is a good day. The phone seems to have a „warm up“ phase where if the phone was used it works better but if you haven’t Used it and use fingerprint for something … that is going to be a problem.
  • setting up the phone takes forever. The onboarding process is like one of these video games where the tutorial takes forever because they tell you cool things like jumping is a on Button A in a western controller layout. The same as it has been for the past 20 years…
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