The transphobia stops now

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.

If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

NotThatKindofDoctor,

🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈 100% support from me

tanja,

100% based; Was already worried where this community was headed

BLÅHAJ Lemmy W

favrion,

Did you have a stroke typing that last part?

power,

Which part

pain_is_life_is_pain,

The part where

DominicO,

Critical Support

xpinchx,

🏳️‍🌈fuck your hate🏳️‍🌈

UmbrellAssassin,

Just read the post that started this all. I thought that hating a person for having a sexual preference that doesn’t agree with you, it’s exactly what the queer community was fighting against. Well you do you. Plus demanding aggressive support only is in really poor taste. Great job making a meme thread into political crap. Yes, let’s burn down everything because I don’t agree with a part of it.

UnculturedSwine,

You’re the one commenting on this instance. They manage it and can make the rules. I for one am happy to have a space where I don’t need to worry about assholes making creepy comments about their sexual preferences and casually bigoted opinions.

StarLuigi,
@StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

For real, I love the way Lemmy works so much. It makes it so much easier to keep out bigots and creepy folks

UmbrellAssassin,

This instance wasn’t a political sub. This was for the memes. A person stating their sexual preference isn’t being creepy. Just cause that one’s person opinion isn’t liked doesn’t mean they can be piled onto. Of course when you start stating extremist views you will get people that say the opposite no matter what. That’s what happens when you start hate. You get hate back. I guess you haven’t read the original thread.

Abrslam,

I support!

drdiemz,
@drdiemz@kbin.social avatar

I want aggressive support, but I don't want to cut my ding dong off

imPastaSyndrome,

And literally no one ever has told or asked you to

expected_crayon,

Thank god. Reddit and Twitter were ruined by the transphobic and Nazis. Glad that isn’t tolerated here.

flicker,

I'm glad yall posted this but I'm bummed it's no longer "aggressive." Anybody who pretends that the wording of "aggressive support" is concerning is probably afraid of triggering that aggression themselves... and they should be.

ada, (edited )
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

People were thinking that aggressive meant that they had to be explicitly active in trans spaces and talking about trans stuff. What I wanted to convey is that someone doesn’t have to talk about trans stuff to post here, but if they do talk about trans stuff, it needs to be unambiguously supportive.

I however remain aggressively supportive, and will continue to ban bigots, reply guys and “just asking question” dog whistlers as soon as they appear :)

UnculturedSwine,

That’s why people like me will continue coming here.

Anti_Weeb_Penguin,
@Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, what happened?

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

From what I can tell, a stupid thread made by a confused cis straight person who was talking about why he wouldn’t have sex with a trans man. Then some transphobes showed up and were banned.

This instance is a safe space for sexual and gender minorities. If cis people want to talk about their sexual preferences with regards to trans people, there are a million and one other instances to do so in. This space is not the place to do so. It should go without saying that nothing that could even be perceived as mildly insensitive towards trans people should be tolerated here. This instance should be one place we can frequent without ever having to deal with any kind of cis and straight nonsense.

hawkwind,
@hawkwind@lemmy.management avatar

Was the OP a blahaj account, or someone from a different instance?

BraBraBra,

Does it matter? As long as you’re not harassing or hateful towards people and you grant them their freedom to exist as they want, there is nothing wrong with having a preference.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Cis people have every other fucking space in the world. This one is meant to be safe for gender minorities. Cis people can go to any of the other instances on lemmy and talk all about their preferences with regards to trans people.

BraBraBra,

A member of the community specifically asked for his opinion.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That doesn’t change literally anything. No one on this instance should be encouraging that, and it should be removed when and where it comes up. Again, this isn’t just any instance its one meant to be safe for us specifically. I don’t care who brought it up, cis people discussing their sexual preferences towards trans people can do so on any of the other instances that are not safe spaces for us.

BraBraBra,

Then stop inviting cis opinions into your community. People asked do he answered. It’s that simple.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I never did invite cis people to talk about their sexual preferences here, trans people are not a hive mind 🙃 its also not my community, the two women who do own and run it have said outright this is a safe space for us.

BraBraBra,

Both the post and specific comment in question were the result of members of the community inviting the opinion of straight people.

Talk to the admins and mods🤷‍♀️

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Did you… read the post that we’re presently commenting on?

BraBraBra,

Yes. What’s your point? The author of this post agrees that the comment in question wasn’t transphobic.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Read it again. I never said the straight person was being transphobic. I said this is not the community for that. The admins agree.

I get sexualized and fetishized by cisgender men and women literally everywhere I go. Every space, every community, every platform. It’s never ending and I cannot fucking tell you how many times in my life I’ve had to deal with reading random unprompted opinions about how fuckable or unfuckable I am. This is not the space. This is not the community for it. Are you trans? Are you a gender minority? Do you have any frame of reference for what this is like for us?

BraBraBra,

It’s an open forum, and clearly some members of the community disagree since they are inviting opinions. Your options is to convince the admins to only federate with lgbt instances, or to make your own. Or maybe the mods can do that country club only type posts like in some reddit communities.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The community is not simply an open forum, it is made by and for gender minorities. This isn’t something the admins are taking votes on. The opinion of the admins is that this is a safe space for trans people.

And I’m not interested in compromises. Again, you have no frame of reference for what this is like. In all due respect, you’re talking to trans people about things you do not understand as though you do in any way understand them. You also have like 6 different comment threads going on all with trans people in this community who also expect this community to be correctly moderated to fit the standards of a safe space for trans people. So you’ve accused me a couple times of thinking the OP of the other thread was being transphobic. I havent said that. I said that this is a safe space for trans people and if people want to talk about how fuckable or unfuckable trans people are they can do it elsewhere. I don’t care who started it, this isn’t the place for it.

BraBraBra,

It is an open forum. When members of the community invite the opinions of straight people, they are able to see that and respond. It’s up to the admins and moderators to lock that down.

LeylaaLovee,

Nobody is asking for your opinion but you keep butting in with concern trolling even after people explain the issue to you. Fuck off dude

BraBraBra,

You don’t understand what concern trolling. I’m not concerned about anything. I disagree that the initial comment was transphobic. Quit making shit up to be mad about.

eestileib,

I think it’s totally legit to say you’re not attracted to a particular body configuration. It wasn’t OP that bothered me, it was all the turdbuckets who showed up to pilot on.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It bothered other people, and its just not the place to have that discussion. Like I said, this instance is a safe space for sexual and gender minorities. That’s the intent of the admins of lemmy.blahaj.zone. And its the reason I chose to join here. There are other spaces on lemmy for cis people to talk all about all the different ways they do or do not want to have sex with or date trans people.

chumbalumber,

I think it’s fine to have sexual preferences, but it’s a bit weird to post about it, especially in a space heavily occupied by trans people. It would be like a white person going into a space, made for and occupied by black people, and talking about how they’d never want to have sex with a black person.

While the base point is fine, it raises the hackles because of the manner in which it’s put forward and the context.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like if you see a random post with any kind of person in it, then proceed to explain why you would or would not fuck them. Completely unnecessary.

PrivateNoob,

Curious question, what made 196 so popular in the trans community? I have always seen some trans memes on Reddit, but it seems the ratio is even higher here (and some anti police stuff, idk I’m not american).

Is it because this is a place you can express yourself freely on the web, or is there something more to it?

ada, (edited )
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Honestly, I have no idea. We ended up with this community during the massive reddit migration because we are a queer focused instance, but I’m not sure of the history. I didn’t even know the community existed before that :)

LeylaaLovee,

I have no idea what the history of 196 being queer is, but it was an extremely queer subreddit. I think it has something to do with how many trans people also happen to be shitposters.

CreamyWeenie,
@CreamyWeenie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It was the only (as far as I know) general shitposting community on reddit that wasn’t casually racist/homophobic/transphobic, because of this a lot of LGBTQ+ people flocked to it for their memes.

noisehound,

iirc, for awhile the first and only user flair available on r/196 was “trans rights”

Jimbo,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Based

PrivateNoob,

Hmm that explains it then. Thanks for the info!

vinceman,

Genuinely thank you. This community just existing as it does has already helped me a fucking weird amount.

RealAccountNameHere,
@RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org avatar

Awesome. Thank you!

dreikelvin,

You have my utmost support even though I am not even on your instance. Just saw it in the federated feed :p Stay strong LGBTQ+ 💪💪💪

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hello, Based Department, we’ve got another Based Community here.

Trans rights are human rights!

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