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  • zephyreks,

    Isn’t the ruble pegged to the gold standard now?

    CodeMonkeyUK, to europe in As Putin’s Re-Election Looms, Kremlin Pushes to Indoctrinate a New Generation of Voters
    @CodeMonkeyUK@lemmy.world avatar

    “Election”…? snort

    zephyreks,

    To a large extent, the concept of an “election” as a driver of people’s wills is a Western construct. In China, for example, people’s wills are directly expressed my complaining to the government. For example, we saw that the government tore down it’s COVID-19 restrictions following mass protests and that they shut down the tutoring economy following a huge number of complaints. Meanwhile, the US is notorious for claiming things during elections and turning around to deliver nothing with no system of recourse for voters.

    This isn’t to say that China has a free and liberal democracy, but it is to say that a free election does not make a free democracy and that the ability to impact government policy does not require elections to be free.

    Of course, none of this is relevant because Russia’s government doesn’t listen to their citizens lol.

    fiah, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country
    @fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    thank you for posting this and baiting a few more tankies into outing themselves, I do so like adding them to my block list

    toomanyjoints69,

    Im a tankie :)

    Do u want to be friends?

    DragonTypeWyvern, to worldnews in Russia’s ‘African Villages’ Are White Supremacy in Disguise - The Moscow Times

    Wow. I was expecting some weird, neo-colonial patronization, not “we’re only accepting Boers who aren’t safe now that apartheid is over.”

    Akasazh,
    @Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

    Well it’s weird patronization, is only rescuing the poor boers from the loss of apartheid.

    The why eludes me, but I think the Russians feel that these fine folk can help with their colonial efforts else in Africa

    zephyreks,

    Do people just magically assume the world is some diverse candy land? The boers are probably one of the only people Russia can bring in without expending any political capital. It’s that simple.

    zephyreks, to worldnews in Russia’s ‘African Villages’ Are White Supremacy in Disguise - The Moscow Times

    Moving white people to Russia is racist? Huh.

    carl_dungeon, to worldnews in Russia’s ‘African Villages’ Are White Supremacy in Disguise - The Moscow Times

    I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that Russia of all places would proudly do something so racist, shitty, and ironic.

    InvertedParallax,

    The end if your comment reads like a Republican bat signal.

    glimse, to worldnews in Russia’s ‘African Villages’ Are White Supremacy in Disguise - The Moscow Times

    Damn what a disguise, Clark Kent would be proud.

    “African villages” is racism wearing 0 strength glasses and a suit. You’d reeaalllyy have to suspend your disbelief to not see right through it

    florge, to europe in Russia to hike defense spending by almost 70% in 2024, totaling around 6% of GDP — more than spending allocated for social policy

    How much does that compare to other countries?

    tal, (edited )
    @tal@kbin.social avatar

    As a percentage of GDP for a peacetime country, it is high, though Russia has generally run high.

    As a percentage of GDP, it's higher than the US (IIRC currently about 3.5%) or Europe (with a few exceptions, below the 2% target of NATO).

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?most_recent_value_desc=true

    The global average is a little over 2% of GDP.

    https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/6/pdf/220627-def-exp-2022-en.pdf

    Compared to WW2 spending, it's quite low.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_production_during_World_War_II

    In 1939, Britain spent 9% of its GDP on defence; this rose drastically after the start of World War II to around 40%.

    EDIT: I'd also add a couple of caveats:

    • Given that this is in rubles, some is probably inflation, if the news source isn't adjusting for that, as the ruble has fallen in value relative to last year:

      https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/RUBUSD=X?p=RUBUSD=X&.tsrc=fin-srch

      Relative to the dollar, it'd need to rise by 70% to hold constant since a year ago, so a 70% ruble increase may not be so exciting. I don't know what periods of time the numbers take effect at (like, in this situstion, where in the year the rubles are from may matter a lot).

    • What we have for this is Russia's word; it could very well be spot-on, but we don't know yet.

    • We don't know what the breakdown in spending is. So, for example, I believe that there may be benefits that need to be paid family of solldiers who were killed or injured and suchlike. At least in the US, I'm pretty sure that that'd be counted as military budget.

      https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/3/7327915/

      "All members of the families of military personnel who died during the special military operation in Ukraine (Putin's term for the war in Ukraine – ed.) will be allocated insurance coverage and one-time assistance in the amount of 7,421,000 roubles. Monthly monetary compensations will also be paid to each family member of fallen [soldiers]".

      Details: Putin also stated that he considers it necessary to set up an additional payment of 5 million roubles for the families of dead soldiers.

      In addition, he promises that the wounded receive a one-time payment of approximately 3 million roubles. And if a soldier becomes disabled during the war with Ukraine, he will be provided with monthly payments.

    So it probably doesn't translate to something like "Russia has 70% increased capacity relative to last year."

    I expect that Perun will put something up about it if he hasn't already, as this is his field.

    magikmw, to europe in Russia to hike defense spending by almost 70% in 2024, totaling around 6% of GDP — more than spending allocated for social policy

    Is it defense spending if it’s spent on a war of aggression?

    bernieecclestoned, to europe in Russia to hike defense spending by almost 70% in 2024, totaling around 6% of GDP — more than spending allocated for social policy

    Corruption bonanza, half their kit gets sold on the black market

    Tar_alcaran,

    Only half? They must have taken some impressive anti-corruption measures to get it down.

    Juno, to ukraine in Residents in Annexed Crimea Turned Away From Bomb Shelter During Air Raid Alert

    Sounds like russia.

    gravitas_deficiency, to europe in Armenia PM signals foreign policy shift away from Russia, labelling security alliances as "ineffective" and adding Armenia should join the International Criminal Court ICC

    This is pretty seismic, just to be clear.

    Hyperreality,

    It's been coming for a while now, but yes.

    It's not just Armenia, it's all the former Soviet countries which are realigning themselves away from Russia.

    bookmeat,

    Wonder who they’re aligning with post-Russia.

    Kangie,

    Really? But the tankies keep loudly talking about how Russia is winning hearts and minds internationally and seeing extreme battlefield success.

    That couldn’t be copium.

    Takios, to europe in Armenia PM signals foreign policy shift away from Russia, labelling security alliances as "ineffective" and adding Armenia should join the International Criminal Court ICC
    @Takios@feddit.de avatar

    Russia has time and time again shown to be an unreliable partner. Any country still depending on them should think hard about still trusting them.

    Chariotwheel,

    Not to mention, even if Russia was fully trustworthy, they did help Armenia before, what Armenia needs from it is military power and power projection. And with pathethic how Russia's military looks right now this is not a given. They are too distracted and don't seem to have ressources to fight their own war, let alone help Armenia. So, there is really no value in them for Armenia's purposes.

    DarkThoughts,

    If Russia was trustworthy, they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine and putting their military in this situation in the first place.

    Hexadecimalkink, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

    As opposed to the Ukranians who are just telling this generation to die.

    fiah, (edited )
    @fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    yes, Ukrainians totally marched into Ukraine and started shooting Ukrainians

    polskilumalo,
    @polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Yes they actually did! 2014 rang, they’re asking where you’ve been for the past 9 years.

    I hate how the entirety of the civil war is being forgotten and how history seems to have begun for most liberals in 2022.

    Blursty,
    @Blursty@lemmygrad.ml avatar
    xuxebiko, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

    Theyll think they're dying for their country, in reality they'll be dying for Putin's fantasy.

    freagle,

    Weird comment considering how much military propaganda exists in the USA. Did you watch the latest Top Gun film?

    DonnieDarkmode,

    How does the existence of military propaganda in the US make the observation that there’s military propaganda in Russia a weird comment?

    freagle,

    Because the idea that people in Russia will not be dying for their country but instead be dying for the fantasy of the president is either completely universal for all countries, and therefore not notable, or it’s an attempt to demonstrate how this situation is notably different than in other contexts.

    DonnieDarkmode,

    That’s a false dichotomy, but honestly even if you granted it I don’t think it affects the validity of the original statement. People dying for one thing when they think they’re dying for another is sad, even if it happens everywhere all the time. I also don’t really get the contention, that saying “a particular aspect of Russian nationalism is bad” is not notable, when this is literally a post about a particular aspect of Russian nationalism?

    freagle,

    You don’t see the problem with an article picking a universal experience, accentuating it by writing an article about it, omitting any mention of other examples of it in any other country, and doing it in the context of war mongering, war profiteering, proxy warfare, distribution of weapons to neo-Nazi groups that were supported as part of a multi-decade pro-Nazi leave-behind system (Operation Gladio), as part of th expansion of the world’s only transnational nuclear military that is unaccountable to any citizens of any country that has launched multiple wars of aggression and occupation?

    You don’t see how an article like that contributes to a narrative of othering and dehumanization by it’s silent ommission and lack of acknowledgement? You don’t see how that narrative of othering and dehumanization leads to mass murder, ecocide, and escalation towards nuclear conflict?

    You think everything is just a spherical frictionless ball in a world without air resistance that has no interactions with anything else and isn’t informed by nor informs other major trends?

    DonnieDarkmode,

    I mean I straight-up didn’t say any of that, nor is it reasonable to infer that I take those positions from what I did say. I’m not even talking about the article; I’m talking about your initial critique of OPs comment. Now if you think that their comment is wrong or misleading then ok, sure, but that’s not what you said (or at least it didn’t seem to be).

    This seems like it would be better suited as a top-level response to the post rather than as a response to something that I never said. There are enough libs on the internet that excuse or ignore fascism/imperialism such that you don’t need to invent new ones to argue with.

    Blursty,
    @Blursty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Another day another defense of the charge of hypocrisy with the “whataboutism” cliché.

    How do you look yourself in the mirror?

    HipPriest,

    I'm not from the US, and have no real interest in defending their history on military matters, but your talking about their entertainment industry not their education system. The article is about how Russia is going to use its education system to get their kids to be good soldiers in the future, not about how they're going to make more action films

    freagle,

    Fair point. I’ll counter with that there’s very little useful difference because the DoD produces those movies and has full script control over scores of movies every year, while simultaneously the head of education in the USA was very recently the sister of Erik Prince, the founder of the Blackwater mercenary army. Education has been manipulated for propagandizing children in the West since forever, and in the USA we have groups like the Daughters of the Confederacy writing curriculum.

    Further, the USA has been glorifying soldiers in schools for decades with high school recruitment, ROTC, letter writing, fund raising, special events featuring soldiers and veterans.

    It’s just not that hard to see that whatever the West accuses other countries of doing it’s something that the West has been doing and doing far worse.

    Blursty,
    @Blursty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    not their education system

    They make children swear allegiance every fucking day. Savages.

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