Nah I think I prefer Matrix. The Revolt servers have that same unproductive samesy flair as discord.
Femboy server uwu cutesy safe (but slightly horny) space. Trans programmer server yay!!
It’s all junk. Matrix has less, but the servers I’m in are trying to do something new. They’re trying to fight the patterns and habits and create something more mindful, safe, and engaging.
I just counted them, assuming you mean the first 100 servers featured in the discover tab. I counted only 6 like what you were talking about, 3 that use it while talking about inclusivity, 5 about anime / japanese games (you should know what I mean), and 1 that associates it with Linux so I don't know if it's joking or not.
Honestly it’s just going from one bad app host (discord) to another that could be less bad but still has all your data (revolt). You can host your own revolt server but you won’t be able to join any of revolts servers. Matrix is just plain better for privacy and security. I do like to see more alternatives out there tho
That’s like saying you can use email if you like living in the 70s-80s. XMPP is a pretty healthy and active project that is standardized like email and ActivityPub. I would consider XMPP pretty modern, especially considering its features, extensions, etc., as well as the numerous applications it is integrated in.
I recently tried to register in XMPP. I found a site on the Internet with a list of servers and it took me more than an 30minets to register.
You may ask why it took so long? The fact is that registration was closed on some sites. Some sites did not open through the browser.
I managed to register on some servers, but messages to these addresses were not delivered (messages sent from these addresses also did not reach the recipient).
Quick registration through the Conversations and Blabber applications also produced errors.
(One of the problematic servers is og.im)
In general, if you want to quickly register and start chatting with a friend without any problems, this may not work.
I think one recommended server added by default to the application by the developer could solve this problem. (For example, like in Matrix, where you are asked to register with matrix.org)
I will be honest, I haven’t came around to using XMPP myself yet, but I am pretty sure you are able to do all of those things, at least with the help of extensions. Here’s the XMPP standards that are currently stable or experimental:
Looking at clients, I see various ones that have at least some of the features you are looking for (especially file and image sharing, I haven’t found a client that has explicitly implemented the stickers specification yet, but Movim seems to have them):
I would give it some more time. It seems those features are in development, but this is essentially an alternative to Matrix that is more standardized. It’s a widely adopted and integrated protocol, so I don’t doubt the features you are looking for will become more fleshed out some day.
Most important to me: Which of them is easier to self-host?
I’ve been running a Mumble server for my friends for over a decade now and I’d like… something more without having to get too technical. Mumble is literally just a single apt-get and you’re basically done, so that’s about the level of technical expertise that I bring to the table. I’ve tentatively looked into other solutions over the years but I always feel my attention drifting when the setup-tutorial covers multiple pages and starts with manually configuring some database or certificate authority or whatever. Sorry, I didn’t mean for this to get too ranty.
Nope, it’s not. But Revolt and Mastodon share the same gimmic: no encryption. Why (as far as I know)? You can install these 2 on your own server, making you own your data and also handling the data. E2EE will not be important in that case (according to me). However, encryption (not E2EE) are important in any service.
Nope, I know :) I just stated the encryption likeness between those 2. If the user don’t like and refuse to use Revolt because it’s not E2EE by default, then the user would have the same oppinion towards Mastodon. That’s all. Nothing more.
Doesn’t track you like discord does to remain "free"
You audit the code for security and privacy issues
You can self-host or fork the code for yourself if you ever need to build a backup because some idiot decided to purchase the original revolt project and decided to screw with it
It has an open source license so the software can never be privatized, it’s essentially a public utility; for everyone by everyone
Our Story:
The Revolt project originally started back in 2019 by a group of three students from the United Kingdom and the Czech Republic, looking for an alternative to the already emerging, closed-source chat platforms. Our main focus for the project was to create an open-source, completely compromise-free platform that offered all of the same features and competed against other chat apps
Revolt is made with collaborative effort, and if you like coding it makes it so if you can to try and code stuff to add custom functionality or plugins or whatever else. Like a public utility you can add to it and develop it communally, though in this case it would be a public utility serving a public with a population of just you. But because of the GPL license Revolt uses, it makes it so that you need to share your changes. Whatever form the source code takes, it remains a public utility until perpetuity.
FOSS Discord Alternative. Takes all the design language of Discord too without the nitro garbage. It’s still not fully featured, but it’s a cool little alternative if you can find a community you like. I personally am rooting for Matrix/Element tho.
I think Matrix/Element is just a tad too confusing. Similar to Mastodon. I don’t know how, but Lemmy is the least confusing to use application within the Fediverse. I have easily been able to just subscribe to whatever I want and see it all.
With Mastodon, I can’t just see a big feed of content like Twitter, and then follow who I want to.
And Matrix/Element is… Just not quite Discord levels of usable.
I don’t know how, but Lemmy is the least confusing to use application within the Fediverse.
I’ve only used Lemmy and this is a scary thought.
I know some people don’t want it anyway, but if there is ever going to be a mass exodus from the corporations to the fediverse, fediverse needs to seriously work on the sign up process. And can’t threaten defederation every 5 minutes, which probably means they need proper modding tools/features.
Well, they just need to make the applications work exactly like their alternatives. Mastodon should show a random feed across the entire Mastodon Fediverse. And Matrix/Element should have a “Discover” section to allow you to browse the entire Matrix, and needs DMs
There’s a setting to put them into seperate sections and aside from that, Element isn’t the only Matrix client. And for group DMs you can just make a group chat.
I thought so too but they only support 20mb uploads. I understand why but also it’s a dealbreaker for me. If they could build in some sort of compression like Discord or any other social media service but I’d have switched but right now if I try to upload a 20 second via it’s just like “yeah nah”.
I hadn’t kept up with the changes to Discord’s naming system, but I had notived they reverted from the USERNAME#0000 to just USERNAME which seems better, was it a good change?
I remember BattleNET having the same type of usernames.
The issue with this change was, that someone who was previously named Mike for instance with a discriminator, has to now choose something else for instance: “Mike372”. Discord claims this is a better and a less confusing system, when it really just boils down to the same thing. Making matter worse they claimed all Mike usernames are taken, so #0001 to #9999 which also later turned out to be false, it was just their site choosing a random discriminator, which when it was already taken told you: “This username is already taken.”, when in reality there were still available discriminators.
This really needs a comparison chart. Also I really wish they just made a Matrix client instead of starting their own protocol. They claim that they will implement a Matrix bridge but that seems like a lot of effort compared to just using Matrix.
And most importantly. I want security information. Is this end-to-end encrypted?
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