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Dohnakun, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

You aren’t allowed to have anarchist worldviews in the US?

breakingcups,

It says he was arrested for activities unrelated to Mastodon, just happened to be working on an unencrypted backup which was also seized. No clue why he was arrested.

hglman,

In mid-May 2023, the home of one of Kolektiva.social’s admins was raided, and all their electronics were seized by the FBI. The raid was part of an investigation into a local protest. Kolektiva was neither a subject nor target of this investigation. Today, that admin was charged in relation to their alleged participation in this protest.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The raid was part of an investigation into a local protest.

Protests are illegal? Since when?

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Depends on your definition of protest.

If you want to go out and stand on the side of the road with a sign there’s no problem.

If you block people from going to work or going home then you start to gather a little bit of attention

There have been an increasing number of protests where people have damaged power substations, Shot up public places and driven through crowds of people.

The FBI doesn’t have time or manpower to screw around. They’re not raiding someone’s house because some people are noisy about government. By the time they’re Knocking on your door they already have some substantial proof of wrongdoing.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

The FBI doesn’t have time or manpower to screw around. […] they already have some substantial proof of wrongdoing.

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nostalgicgamerz, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

FBI needs to go after the actual “domestic terrorists” The one wrapping fascism with a cross and holding a bible

Randy_Bobandy,
@Randy_Bobandy@lemmy.ml avatar

Why would they go after their own families?

Lupus108,

Some of those that work forces…

root,
@root@lemmy.world avatar

UNHHHHH!

sp00nix,

Are the same that burn s’moreses

fugepe,

Who the fuck are you talking about?

BloodyFable,

Right wing Christian extremists, clearly.

fugepe,

Never seen any. Take your meds

phar,

They’re everywhere here in the States

sp00nix,

It’s a pretty big problem here in the States.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Christian fascism, has been really widespread and common in Anglosphere for centuries.

torknorggren,

Uh, they do. abc7.com/…/13381742/

www.cnn.com/2023/06/17/us/…/index.html

www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/…/3272309/

There’s plenty of garbage law enforcement agencies, but in general the fbi seems to do a pretty reasonable job.

shortwavesurfer, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

Screw the FBI. As long as the admin in their activism wasnt breaking the NAP i see no problems. “Anarchists” are not for chaos, they just want no governmyth

DeadGemini, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized
@DeadGemini@waveform.social avatar

[…] This is exactly what the admins over at Kolektiva.social have done and now one of them has been raided and charged by the FBI for activities unrelated to Mastodon

Clickbait.

raresbears,

Data was seized though

DeadGemini,
@DeadGemini@waveform.social avatar

Yes, but the title makes it sound like it was because he was running an anarchist Mastodon instance. That’s not why, he just happened to be doing a backup when he was raided, the backup was unencrypted, and they seized it. Has nothing to do with him running an anarchist instance from what I can tell.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Evidence was seized. I’m quite sure they already had people all over the server looking for probable cause. They seized the proof so they can take the people to court.

fugepe, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

The fed glowing N. Why am I not surprised. Never fully trust your government

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

take your meds

fed glowing N

You are warned for this behaviour. You will receive ban if you continue hideously posting 4chan style lingo here.

fugepe,

Do whatever you want, idga.

me, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized
@me@cysioland.pl avatar

Holy fuck that article is tendentious as fuck. I'm not too fond of anarchists politically but I trust them with my data far more than I trust Mr Zuck or Mr Musk

SpaceNoodle,

Damn, I learned a new word today and I’m not even out of bed yet. That’s a good one!

me,
@me@cysioland.pl avatar

@SpaceNoodle In Polish we have "tendencyjny" and I was looking for something similar and I've found it

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

I concur, that’s one for the back pocket!

SpaceNoodle, (edited ) to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

Naïve question: why would user IP addresses be stored?

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Most websites track IP addresses, keep them in a database, and use them for various things. You can find a lot of information on this online, however in the case of non-profit social media like Mastodon, it can be useful for tracking bad actors and blocking them from access. Most of the time they are used for commercial purposes.

SpaceNoodle,

I asked “why,” not “who” or “how.” “Various things” is the vaguest possible answer you could have given.

Why would user IPs be stored?

Fenzik,

it can be useful for tracking bad actors and blocking them from access.

SpaceNoodle,

So the first two thirds of your reply were completely unhelpful, yes?

Impulsivedoorholder,

Why ask a question if you refuse the answer?

No need to be pretentious when you don’t get the answer you want.

SpaceNoodle,

Sorry about your illiteracy

artifice,

You’re a bit of an ass.

SpaceNoodle,

Sorry about your illiteracy.

moreeni, (edited )

They weren’t as they give context to why a person would want to store it

gelberhut, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized
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Moral of the story: do not use social app for private direct messaging - this is the only not assumed to be public data (besides IP) which was “stolen”.

fossilesque,
@fossilesque@mander.xyz avatar

Going to gently take the time to promote the federated app Matrix. You can interloop other common messengers into it as well fortunately!

MeowyNin, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

Goes to show the system is insidious and will stop anything it deems a threat. It would have to be completely destroyed to be stopped and its horrifying.

ryven, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fuck the FBI.

  • Sincerely, an anarchist
k_o_t, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized
@k_o_t@lemmy.ml avatar

mfs doing stuff like this really need to stop living in america bruh 💀

jjagaimo,

Wait til you hear about extradition

ag_roberston_author,
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mihor,
@mihor@lemmy.ml avatar

Of course Slovenia is a part of the extradition club, why should we ever be free from fascism? 😖

k_o_t,
@k_o_t@lemmy.ml avatar

plenty of places w/ no extradition 🤷‍♀️

Playingwithethenew, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

According to the article, the FBI has access to:
"User account information like the e-mail address associated with your account, your followers and follows, etc.
All your posts: public, unlisted, followers-only, and direct ("DMs").
Possibly IP addresses associated with your account - IP addresses on Kolektiva.social are logged for 3 days and then deleted, so IP addresses from any logins in the 3 days prior to the database backup date would be included.
A hashed ... version of your password."

(Emphasis mine.)

m532, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

Yankeecops must be exterminated

yogthos, to technology in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Ah yes, the land of the free where thought police will bust servers where people practice wrongthink.

thepaperpilot, to fediverse in Admin of an anarchist Mastodon server raided by FBI, insecure user data gets seized

That last sentence is a bit annoying. Why wouldn’t I trust anarchists with data? Did they just pull up a definition of kolektiva without actually understanding what anarchism is? The last sentence really implies they’re using the incorrect but common definition of anarchism meaning “no rules” instead of the actual definition “no unjust hierarchies”

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