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Endorkend, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.
@Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

I was lucky to receive 10 Windows 7 and Visual Studio Ultimate keys for personal use, in the Windows 7 era.

Once the "you can use Windows 7 keys to activate Windows 8/10" thing, combined with Microsoft accounts came around, I created 10 Microsoft accounts with 10 of my email addresses.

I've been able to activate Windows versions 7-11 with all 10 keys (and I can change to older Windows without issue) and been able to upgrade Visual Studio Ultimate to the current version year after year this way.

I wonder if the already upgraded keys attached to Microsoft accounts, that become a bit version fluid, will remain able to use higher versions.

DoomBot5,

I have some Windows keys back from college (software policy stated you kept your software if you graduate), I hope those continue to work for me as well.

HidingCat,

Damn, that's a lot of keys! Lucky alright. Do you use them all at once though? o_O That's a lot of computers.

Giblets4all, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

You can buy a used mini PC for less than the price of a new Windows 11 license. I know there are cheaper license sites out there (unclear how legit they are) but this way you get a Windows license and a spare PC to run Linux!

PeachMan,
@PeachMan@lemmy.world avatar

They cost like $5 online, it’s not like it’s a huge risk. I’ve bought OEM keys before and they work fine. Just use a credit card so you can easily get a refund if it’s fake.

Honytawk,

Those are usually Windows 7 or 8 keys.

Which do indeed work to activate Windows 10 and 11.

But not anymore.

vimdiesel,

Or just install Linux and never worry about that shit again lol

londos,

I agree, I don’t plan to go back! Just don’t like giving up the option.

confusedwiseman,

There could be a bit of a caveat here. I when I purchased my laptop it had windows 10 installed. When I installed Mint, I could not reuse that key in a VM because it was “different hardware”. The license, could not be transferred under any circumstance. I had also purchased the upgrade to Pro through the windows store. That’s also lost.

I seldom run windows, even in the VM, but it still leaves one a bit bitter.

Giblets4all,

I reused a Win10 Pro key from a mini PC from 2015 onto a brand new build and it worked right away. Not sure what the difference is with your situation. Maybe it was your license type?

confusedwiseman,

It was the license that came on an Acer laptop. Completely non transferable per Microsoft.

joey,

Laptop licences are linked to the hardware. You technically do not have a key to begin with.

pjhenry1216,

Usually calling Windows support, they'll give you a key if you just tell them you replaced some piece of hardware due to failure, assuming you haven't been transferring the same key around for awhile. They tend to be more invested in keeping you in the Windows ecosystem than they are are just getting one more license sold.

confusedwiseman,

I called support, they said no. Asked for a one time exception, still no. The key to my knowledge was only used once on the laptop when I bought it new.

I wasn’t investing any more time in it.

Kepabar,

Yes, an OEM license is not transferable from the hardware the OEM originally installed it on, even to a VM running on that hardware.

Honytawk,

Windows 10 links their license to the motherboard.

So as long as you use the same motherboard, the key will work.

This isn’t possible with VMs sadly.

mystik,

You can extract the SLIC value from the ACPI table, and then pass it through to QEMU

See more details here: gist.github.com/…/49bd034d43e054bd1d8d4fec38c305e…

It is my understanding that this can only be used to run the OEM license one one instance in a VM, on the specific hardware that is originally licensed. IE, you virtualize the license if the bootOS is Linux, but you can’t run 2 instances of the same windows license inside each other.

SavinDWhales,

When I build a new PC, I could not transfer my old 7 pro retail license, even though it worked fine on my old PC running Windows 10 and it even said it was a digital license connected to my MS account.

So I bought a Win 10 pro key from one of the ebay resellers aber everything was fine… until it wasn’t. I updated the firmware for my mainboard and Windows took that for a replacement of hardware. Troubleshooter did not show three option “I recently changed my hardware” and did not give me the option to call Microsoft’s support.

Turns out it was a “one time install” key which was invalidated by changing the hardware. So it couldn’t activate a second time. And since the key seller was out of business at that time (they’ll change accounts every few months), I had no way of getting the key replaced.

Luckily, I still had an old Windows 7 COA with key and CD lying around from an old Dell business Workstation. That activated just fine.

But yeah, even if you have a valid license connected to your Microsoft account, there’s no way of seeing it in your account, and it’s not guaranteed MS will honor it.

londos,

Dumb q, if I install Linux and later decide to reinstall Windows, is that OEM license still good?

scottywh,

Yes

pjhenry1216,

The answer is a resounding maybe. If you activated with a Microsoft account or if there's a TPM chip, the chances of it still working increases. There are different kinds of licenses, but if it fails, there's a better than not chance calling MS support and just telling them you had a hardware failure on your laptop and you need to reinstall, they'll get you going. Not a guarantee though. And I'll caveat and say this information is a couple years old (I don't work in tech support anymore).

Honytawk,

You can just reactivate by troubleshooting your activation in Windows.

No need to call Microsoft about it.

pjhenry1216,

The multiple posts of people not being able to do that should have made it clear that doesn't always work.

Honytawk,

Definitely yes.

As long as you use the same motherboard.

TheGreatFox,

Cheap license sites (windows, games, etc) usually use keys bought via stolen credit cards. Pirating it is much better than buying from those sites, including for the devs that get punished for chargebacks from those keys.

dudewitbow,

Tbh if you want gray area keys. Microsoftsoftwareswap has always had verified users selling business generated licenses keys. If you HAVE to buy a key, at least buy one from vetted people and not some rando on a seller site

jarfil,

the devs that get punished for chargebacks from those keys.

Just to be clear… in the case of Windows, that would be M$…?

CaptainBasculin,

So, hurting Microsoft and getting a cheap Windows key? Where’s the downside?

Drbreen, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

I’ve had the same Win8 Pro key that I purchased for $40 when it released 12 years ago. I’ve used it for Win10 and 11. Is this saying if I format my drive and reinstall Win11 that I won’t be able to activate using this key anymore?

PotjiePig,

If I’m not mistaken your key is linked to your motherboard as well as your Microsoft account. So I think you should be fine. I just formatted my drive yesterday and it didn’t even ask me to type it in, I skipped that step and it verified once I logged in.

Capitao_Duarte,

That on laptop or desktop? I had a laptop and always did like you said. For the first time I have a desktop and don’t know how things go now

PotjiePig,

Super late reply to your question, but when you add Windows and punch in the key it links to the motherboard of the PC (laptop or desktop, doesn’t matter). Once you sign in to your Microsoft account, the key and mobo serial gets stored there. If you bought a new PC and with it a new motherboard you can find your key in your account or use the one on the back of your old laptop and delink it from your old device so that you can reuse it on your new one. It moves with your account.

Of you do a standard format, you shouldn’t have to worry, but if you ever upgrade your mobo, just make sure you get a screenshot of your serial in the windows settings and make sure you are logged in to your windows account (maybe check the account settings on a browser and see if you can find your devices, not sure of this is a necessary step… but just to make sure it’s linked I guess)… then once you format, you can punch in the old serial and log in, if it pops up a warning, it may ask you to migrate the serial and delete the old device or you may have a step or two on the Microsoft website to do this, I’m a bit hazy on the details as I did this a good 4 years ago, bit it wasn’t much of a headache.

Drbreen,

OEM keys are linked to motherboards I believe. Mine is a retail key and I’ve used it across many different builds over the years.

tleb,

Retail keys can also be linked to the hardware or Microsoft account

pjhenry1216,

Keys are usually stored in the TPM chip and/or tied to Microsoft accounts if you use one. If you don't have an account, there's actually a limit to how often a key can activate new hardware. If there's no TPM, there's simply a limit within a certain timeframe that it can be used to activate on the same hardware.

Drbreen,

Right, I’m pretty sure this key is tied to my MS account.

UnculturedSwine, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

Jumped the windows ship long ago. So glad I don’t need to deal with this nonsense anymore.

PeachMan,
@PeachMan@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair, nobody actually NEEDS to deal with this nonsense. Windows works just fine without an activated key, literally the only downside is the “Please activate Windows” bug on your desktop. That’s it, everything else works fine.

But yes, using Linux is also a great option.

HeyJoe,

Not exactly, can’t customize it either or change certain settings. I know this because I just built a new PC and the key I had didn’t work for 2 days while I had support figure it out.

Honytawk,

Yeah, but nothing that prevents you from using your computer.

Customisation is just aesthetics

HeyJoe,

Absolutely, it’s not the worst. I had a client who had me rebuild their work pc for them and the key they gave me didn’t work. They never ended up bothering getting it to work since it was a work pc and didn’t really care if they could change the background or theme. This was Win 10, I think 11 has a few more settings locked out but it’s not bad really.

vividspecter,

I don’t think system wide dark theme works without a key, although there are workarounds of course.

The_Mixer_Dude,

It does on 11

bighatchester,

I did recently and have regrets yet . Been using to run yuzu perfectly and most games I’ve tried work great other than some games that use certain anti cheats . Going to work on RGB control soon once I have time. And I have a windows VM to adjust the controls easily on my mouse and gaming keypad which I almost never need to change.

BigVault,
@BigVault@kbin.social avatar

I’m going to fully assess what actual windows software I rely on any more and migrate all of my systems to a Linux based os this weekend I think.

The amount of games that I play that work on my Steam deck already confirms that I’ll be fine there.

I probably spin up a windows vm that I could remote into from my homelab if I’ve missed anything I do need to run.

Kowowow,

Ya I’m thinking I’ll just try some version of linux on my old laptop

Zima, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

I finally ran out windows 7 keys and had to buy a new one for win11, they cost 4-9$ online.

teejay,

Where?

SomeRandomWords,

KeysOff has been very reliable for me in the past (I’m not affiliated with them, just a happy customer) but I’m pretty sure there are multiple VLK resellers out there for Windows keys at this point.

Zima,

i randomly picked a shady website i found by searching "windows 11 pro license key purchase"

Piemanding,

I’ve been able to get them off ebay before for windows 10 keys. Got a pro key for 6 dollars I believe.

JackbyDev,

r/MicrosoftSoftwareSwap sells them but mine stopped working and the dude who sold it to me didn’t answer. So don’t go there.

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Go to Amazon UK, bunch of really cheap ones there. You’ll get the key via email instantly. Ideally, install a fresh windows 10 and immediately upgrade to 11, then the key will be upgraded and remains valid even if the original one gets disabled.

TalesFromTheKitchen,

Yeah, volume keys are what I’ve been using the past ten years or so. Only one office key got blacklisted so far. Overall a pretty good deal.

altima_neo, (edited ) to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Not like I wanted to, my older PCs running windows 7 aren’t eligible for Windows 11 anyway

The_Mixer_Dude,

Try installing fresh from USB. Typically works for me on any machine that says it couldn’t install on

TimeSquirrel,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

It's because of the TPM shit but there are ways to bypass that in the installer. There's not that much difference in the architecture of Windows 7 v.s Windows 11, and there is theoretically nothing stopping a Win7 machine from running Win11. It's all the same since Vista anyway. That was the last major architecture revamp.

spudwart, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

Activate Linux

spudwart, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

Activate Linux

HidingCat, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

Hmm, this shouldn't affect me, as my Win 7 Pro key is now a Win 10 Pro key, right?

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

If you already activated it once with 10 Pro, then yes, you can freely use it beyond the cut-off date.

someguy3, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

I wonder how many there are, since it won’t run on older hardware anyway.

wander1236,
@wander1236@sh.itjust.works avatar

The utility was more in being able to buy a dirt cheap Windows 7 Pro key or copy one from some old computer or disc label to activate a new computer on 10 or 11, and have it be legal.

If you signed in with a Microsoft account, the key would also be synced to it and be able to activate a computer just by you signing in, which could be handy.

OtisRamflow,

I used to pull the product key stickers off parts we bought at my old job. Laptop bottom cover, with free windows 7 key. Every computer in my house is running Windows 11 pro, activated with a Windows 7 key, that was otherwise just going to get thrown away.

ReversalHatchery,

The article is incorrect, it hasn’t been done at the OS level, but at the online activation service

beehaw.org/post/8271339

Johnpwrinkle, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys; maybe last chance to activate using Windows 7 or 8 keys, for 22H2.

I have around 30 windows 7 pro COAs (used to work in a pc repair shop, pulled the COAs on every dead pc that came through). Most of them are from dells, but I haven’t had an issue activating on custom pcs. If anyone wants one, let me know

Artaca,

If you’re handing out free keys, I’d happily take one! Pretty smart to yoink em from scrapped PCs lol

Johnpwrinkle,

DM’d you

On,
@On@kbin.social avatar

I'd like one too if you have a spare

Johnpwrinkle,

DM’d you too

drangus,

I’d love one if you have a spare! Thanks so much

Johnpwrinkle,

DM’d you

danteog,

Can I have 3?

Johnpwrinkle,

Best limit it to one to share the love - DM’d you

danteog,

Ty!

NaughtyKatsuragi,

Can i get one? Upgraded my PC and windows wont accept my old code, been running without activation for a while lol

Johnpwrinkle,

DM’d you

Krause, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys
@Krause@lemmygrad.ml avatar

But you can still activate it with this FOSS solution: github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO

sovietknuckles,
@sovietknuckles@hexbear.net avatar

5724-line batch script scared

mvirts, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

Now you need to get a cracked copy instead

TheGoldenGod, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys
@TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world avatar

Can you still activate Windows 10 with a Windows 7 key? I recently discovered I have to update to 10, since 11 isn’t supported on my device.

reddig33,

Worked for me a couple of months ago.

Kongar,

I literally did this on a new pc two weekends ago. Downloaded win11 iso, installed, typed in the key off my win 7 cd rom retail packaging that’s god knows how old, done.

I’ve long since moved to linux and just dual boot win11 for games that don’t run well in linux. I won’t buy a key at this point just for that.

Facebones,

I’m really considering this at this point, I’ve never really had any issues with windows but as a techie it feels more and more like my duty to be “that guy.”

I’ve already been on privately hosted email for years and started self hosting some stuff on a pi.

TheGoldenGod,
@TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world avatar

That’s actually what I’m going with, well hopefully that means everything should go smoothly. I was just a tad nervous lol.

jecht360, to technology in You can no longer activate new Windows 11 builds with Windows 7 or 8 keys

Oh no, guess the people using Windows at home will have to just settle for using the easily found Microsoft Activation Scripts!

RHOPKINS13,

This broke the "MAS" scripts, at least as far as HWID activation. From their website:

Note: Microsoft servers are currently rejecting HWID activation requests when activating through MAS, we’re checking what’s going on now. Use the KMS38 activation option for now.

asexualchangeling, (edited )

Oh no, that messes up my future plans to have an extra SSD on my computer for dual booting so I can more easily do VR

Oh well, I guess I don’t ever have to look at windows again, that works too

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