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nan, to linux in LMDE 6 Codenamed “Faye”, Linux Mint 21.3 Is Planned for Christmas 2023
@nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Very cool. In the past they had mentioned LMDE should be about a month behind the 21.2 update. Hoping that estimate still isn’t too far off.

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1984, to opensource in Thunderbird 115.1 Improves Flatpak Support, Hides Quick Filter Bar by Default
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I started using it again with version 115 and it’s so fast and easy to search mails, I spend a couple of hours deleting, archiving and cleaning up my inbox. Who knew that could be kind of fun. :)

words_number,

I’ve been using it forever and I actually don’t think that much has changed. It has finally gotten some necessary builtin features that previously needed plugins (carddav, caldav) and the UI has been cleaned up a bit, but generally there are no game changers here. So why didn’t you use it before 115?

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Ugly user interface, to be honest. I don’t mean to offend but I just didn’t like how it looked.

words_number,

Out of curiosity, what did you use instead?

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I have been using web interfaces to email for over 15 years now in think. I’ve been on Fastmail for the last 5 or so.

Before the web interfaces were popular, I was using email clients on the desktop, and I think I was using Thunderbird back then, but don’t really remember exactly…

words_number, to opensource in Thunderbird 115.1 Improves Flatpak Support, Hides Quick Filter Bar by Default

Hiding quick filter bar by default is questionable. Other than that, good to hear that rough edges are getting ironed out :)

WildeGreen, to linux in GNOME Devs Are Working on a New Window Management System

At this point what I think Gnome should add is a Samsung-style touch friendly multitasking system. Stuff with touch dragable handles between apps

christophski, to linux in GNOME Devs Are Working on a New Window Management System

Looks like they have put a lot of thought into it so I’m keen to see where they get with it. My concern with these kind of changes is that they often end up trying to guess what the user wants, which creates an unpredictable behaviour that is then more annoying than it is helpful.

alvanrahimli,

Exactly, for this community is to blame. People mostly are against even minimal and anonymous surveys, telemetry and stuff. So, all they can do is just assuming that people want something or not.

Usually they are talking to active community members, whom, we all know that programmers and technical people.

IMHO, they need a bit more data to decide on

minh2134,

And yet it seems to me only GNOME has this problem, and it has been there since Torvalds still publicly executing everyone in mailing list. XFCE, LXQT, hell, even KDE only has minimal complain about unexpected behavior. It seems to me that in a concerted effort to predict as much user behavior as possible, GNOME created this non existent “average user” that conforms to no one, and created this mess on their own.

Also, we are mostly against nonconsensual, non-explicit, or opt-out type of feedback. As far as I concern, efforts to point out to GNOME devs their faults are many to the point its a meme. It is also, not unrelatedly, a meme that GNOME denies these complaints because “the average users wouldn’t get it”) . I think it should be clear enough by now.

BloodForTheBloodGod,

You consent to their design choices by using the DM they are crafting.

minh2134,

Consent doesnt mean agree in this context tho. And it is debatable whether using is consenting. Do I consent to all the shady shit Microsoft was pulling when I install windows? (Looking at the number of debloaters and their received support from community, that seems like a no)

BloodForTheBloodGod,

Windows is closed source. The dynamics are different.

unionagainstdhmo,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Well you do consent to it because you have to agree to the EULA when you install Windows

some_guy,

Like how Apple’s Stage Manager is unpredictable and gets in the way (reportedly… I deliberately opted out of upgrading).

nix, to opensource in Firefox 116 Is Now Available for Download, This Is What's New
@nix@merv.news avatar

I just want a sidebar like pulsebrowser.app and floorp.app have (both are firefox forks)

Scio,
@Scio@kbin.social avatar

@nix Aren't sidebars a stock Firefox feature?

I only just switched back to Firefox after many years, and have one open with my bookmarks and tabs all the time now! Although I do use Simple Tab Groups for the latter

manned_meatball,
@manned_meatball@lemmy.ml avatar
pkulak,

Care to hook me up with that css?

manned_meatball,
@manned_meatball@lemmy.ml avatar

it’s based on this gist - follow the instructions at the top: you’ll need to set the right Sidebery preface to make it work, it’ll let you toggle it on and off easily.

pkulak,

Thanks!

nix,
@nix@merv.news avatar

But floorp and pulsebrowser let me have vertical tabs button on the same bar as the sideberry bookmarks which is really nice.

Sidenote: Doesn’t having it collapse when the mouse leaves the area kind of defeat the purpose a bit?

yoasif, to firefox in Firefox 116 Is Now Available for Download, This Is What's New - 9to5Linux
@yoasif@fedia.io avatar

changes the Ctrl+Shift+T keyboard shortcut to reopen the last closed tab or last closed window in the order they were closed or restore the previous session if there aren’t any tabs or windows to reopen.

Amusing that Firefox gets worse to match Chrome here. Oh well.

hozl,

Wait what is the difference compared to the previous behavior?

jpe, (edited )

Previously, ctrl-shift-T only reopened tabs and worked per-window. I think it's much more intuitive that way, since it's cleanly separated from other features (ctrl-shift-N) and works kind of like ctrl-T.

yoasif,
@yoasif@fedia.io avatar

Well, there are bugs, for one.

rDrDr, to linux in Firefox 116 Is Now Available for Download, This Is What's New

Us there an extension to get rid of cookie banners in the meantime? God the web is so annoying.

oxideseven,

uBlock origin has an annoyances check box you can use to get rid of them.

Chewy7324,

Some sites broke for me since interacting with those consent banners is a requirement for working (e.g. playing a video). I don’t remember which sites but now I’m back to using ConsentO-Matic, which denies those consent forms if possible.

github.com/cavi-au/Consent-O-Matic

heimchen,

You can’t play promotion videos on the LG website without cookies. WTF

leftascenter,
@leftascenter@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Ghostery has a rejection system integrated

rocketeer8015,
rDrDr,

I remember seeing that when it was first released, but I didn’t like the idea of it allowing cookies. Like, I do care about cookies and I don’t want them. I just don’t want to have to click around those banners trying to reject them.

ForbiddenRoot, to linux in MX Linux 23 “Libretto” Is Out with Linux Kernel 6.4, Based on Debian Bookworm

This is like a mythical distro for me. I hear about it here and there, usually in the context of it being on top of DistroWatch and why that does not mean anything, but never really known anyone who actually uses it or recommends it.

That doesn’t make it bad or even obscure of course, because even an outstanding distro like openSuse gets very less screen-time nowadays. But somehow this is one distro I have never installed or even had the urge to find out more about.

Frederic,

I am using MX for a couple of years now, 5 or 6. I used Ubuntu for years and one time I saw MX top of DistroWatch so I installed it, with Xfce, I really like it, just some tweak here and there for the “panel” to have a taskbar etc, and that’s it. Superb distro. It’s on my work PC for years, I will switch to 23 soon.

butter,

I use it. It’s certainly a distro. For my laptop, I wanted something based on Debian to match my server, and i didn’t want to have to configure anything That’s pretty much it.

I don’t love it enough to recommend, but it’s doing its job well enough for me. Maybe it’s problem is that it’s boring.

I’ll admit, I haven’t really experimented with distros in a while. Not since I installed Debian on my server.

ForbiddenRoot,

Maybe it’s problem is that it’s boring.

Personally, I consider that a feature. Most of my machines are on Debian Stable, though I do keep a distro-hopping laptop around which is on the newly released Mint at the moment. I just use Flatpaks for the odd application that I need the very latest version of (e.g., Yuzu emulator). I will give MX a try sometime, at least in a VM.

butter,

Oh that’s absolutely a feature. Debian in it’s entirety is pretty boring. But it’s not making news or making memes

Chewy7324,

That sounds like it scratches the same itch as Linux Mint Debian Edition, but I’d personally choose LMDE because I used Linux Mint before.

butter,

Tbh, I’ve been considering moving to LMDE. Mint is very popular, which is a nice to have

whoami,

the thing it offers is no systemd, and the mx-linux gui tools to configure your system. Also the advanced hardware support (AHS) is a neat feature. They basically take Debian and make it slightly more user friendly. It’s just less well known than something like ubuntu or mint.

palitu, to linux in MX Linux 23 “Libretto” Is Out with Linux Kernel 6.4, Based on Debian Bookworm

Man… I just installed kubuntu… but mx sounds like it may be worth it. What do I get over ubuntu for a desktop type workstation, that won’t do much except for Firefox, Spotify and minecraft?

Dotdev,

Just less updates and no snaps and none of canonical things.For those who want a minimal system.

palitu,

Yeah, happy with apt.

Is less updates an issue? And do you mean for less time, or less in general?

Dotdev,

Less in general

tychosmoose,

Did I read right that it doesn’t use systemd?

Dotdev,

It has systemd but its not enabled

Vinegar, to linux in GNOME Devs Are Working on a New Window Management System
@Vinegar@kbin.social avatar

The 9to5 article is poorly written. In the first paragraph 9to5 says a new window system is "scheduled to replace" the current one, but this is not true. The cited blog post explicitly says "There’s no timeline or roadmap at this stage". The Gnome developers are merely experimenting with a new window management system and at this early stage it's impossible to know what the finished product may look like if these experiments go anywhere at all.

Here's a link to the original blog post where Gnome developer Tobias Bernard explains their dissatisfaction with existing window management systems and discusses the techinical challeneges developers face.

Xttweaponttx,

Thanks!

hglman,

That blog post is much, much better. That’s a reasonably exciting system; I hope they make it work.

SoNick, to linux in GNOME Devs Are Working on a New Window Management System

Again? Wasn't Gnome3 bad enough?

superkret,

Gnome3 is great if you don’t expect it to look and behave like Windows (there’s KDE for that).
Gnome is meant to be controlled with the keyboard and a touchpad, without having to memorize shortcut combos or complicated gestures.
And it works perfectly.

antony,

Whilst gnome 3 wasn’t for we it did have charm and I prefer it over Windows or KDE. I’m using xfce4, and really like Window Maker and CDE, but I get why these wouldn’t work well on ultra wide displays. It’s all personal preference and finding what works, which is part of my love for Linux.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Stop living in 2015. GNOME is by far the most polished DE and most extensive with a great extension system.

SoNick,

That's a good one! Gnome is the Windows 8 of the Linux world, and the devs tend to intentionally break the extension system between major releases. It's truly baffling how the group that made Gnome 2.x continue to hate most of the Linux userbase so much.

TheAnonymouseJoker, (edited )
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I do not know if they intentionally break things, that is far fetched and almost conspiratorial. GNOME is more like Windows 7 than 8. I would argue KDE is the Windows 8/10. If you think GNOME hates Linux userbase, then your way of thinking is wrong. There is no DE even half as polished as GNOME, and their support for Wayland is incredible. And the essential extensions you would use are never broken.

You can never make any DE work as well as this.https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/5cb7bc48-3345-473e-8128-a5f7f7ce050b.jpeg

My GNOME extensions:https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/a5734f77-a3cb-475f-ab5e-650e03fd695d.png

timbuck2themoon,

Jesus these comments are so worthless. If you don’t like it, just stfu. I notice there is rarely any bad mouthing on KDE or xfce or whatever posts but of course someone does about gnome.

Again, get a life and just ignore a DE you don’t like.

pr06lefs, to linux in GNOME Devs Are Working on a New Window Management System

Not really digging the dragging windows with the mouse bit. Hopefully will be workable with keyboard only.

Reemerge1511, to linux in GNOME Devs Are Working on a New Window Management System

I think this looks amazing. I do like the behaviour of tiling WMs, but having a DE is too comfy for me to give up. This could possibly bring the bestof both worlds.

Knusper,

There are already ways to have tiling and a DE.

On GNOME, there’s PaperWM, although it’s not quite traditional tiling either.

On KDE Plasma 5.27+, you can use Polonium. For versions before 5.27, Bismuth.

And on Xfce or LXQt, it’s often possible to use them with a traditional tiling WM, like i3wm, bspwm etc…

sapo,
@sapo@beehaw.org avatar

I’ve been using Krohnkite on KDE. Are those you mentioned better?

Knusper,

Krohnkite went unmaintained a while ago, which is when Bismuth forked from it. So, Bismuth is basically a straight upgrade. The dev implemented tons of features, which you may or may not need, but I think, there were also some fixes for stability and Plasma version compatibility.

Polonium came about, because Plasma 5.27 introduced a (manual) tiling system of its own, which partially broke Bismuth, but also meant it made sense to develop a new KWinScript, which makes use of this native system.
As such, it is a step back from Bismuth. I think, it’s roughly comparable to Krohnkite in terms of features now, but still a very young project, so not as stable yet…

sapo,
@sapo@beehaw.org avatar

Interesting! Krohnkite still works so well for my use case that I didn’t even realize it was unmantained. I’ll give those two a shot!

20gramsWrench,

I’ve tried all 3 and krohnkite felt like the more polished, can’t tell you which doesn’t do what but the others felt a bit clunky in the way they handled resizes and such

JuvenoiaAgent,
@JuvenoiaAgent@lemmy.ca avatar

There’s also Forge for GNOME.

eclipse,

Try out Pop Shell. Its works very well on my Fedora installs.

theDodosConundrum,

Seconding Pop Shell. Very simple install via Gnome extension and it works wonderfully on my daily driver Ubuntu install.

nik282000,
@nik282000@lemmy.ml avatar

Chiming in with another great alternative, Tactile lets you tile windows and stack at the same time. Between the Tactile hotkeys, Alt+Tab and Alt+~ I never need to use the mouse for window manipulation anymore.

tombuben,

I really can’t stress how good PaperWM is in combination with a touchpad. I wouldn’t recommend it at all on a mouse-only environment, but when you can use multitouch gestures to scroll through the workspace it works really well.

humanplayer2,
@humanplayer2@lemmy.ml avatar

You could try Pop!_OS. There you get the full DE, plus tiling implemented by a GNOME extension. You can also just install that extension, of course, or another.

InFerNo, to linuxphones in Ubuntu Touch OTA-2 Rolls Out with Support for Fairphone 3, F(x)tec Pro1 X

Is it possible to use X11 applications using XMir these days?

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