Ukraine expands conscription, removes medical exemptions for HIV, hepatitis, mental disorders and more

Now, the words and figures “with the exception of articles 2-c, 4-c, 5-c, 12-c, 13-c, 14-c, 17-c, 21-c and 22-c” have been removed from the Regulation, i.e. everyone will be recognised as fit under the “controversial” articles:

  • 2-c – clinically treated tuberculosis;
  • 4-c – viral hepatitis with minor functional impairment;
  • 5-c – asymptomatic HIV carrier;
  • 12-c - slowly progressive and non-progressive with minor functional impairment and rare exacerbations of anaemia, blood clotting disorders, purpura, haemorrhagic conditions, other diseases of the blood and haematopoietic organs, and some disorders involving the immune mechanism;
  • 13-c - diseases of the endocrine system with minor functional disorders;
  • 14-c - mild, short-term, painful manifestations of mental disorders;
  • 17-c - neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders with moderate or short-term manifestations, with an asthenic state;
  • 21-c – slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system with minor functional disorders;
  • 22-c – episodic and paroxysmal disorders, except for epilepsy, with minor impairment of organ and system functions.
Slayan,

Background: On 30 August, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reported that at a meeting of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, it had been decided that a comprehensive inspection be conducted of the validity of decisions made by military medical commissions since 24 February 2022. These are decisions on disability and unfitness for service that were or may be related to corruption violations. All cases where the decisions were unreasonable and illegal should be investigated by law enforcement agencies, the president said. In addition, Zelenskyy announced that the system of determining fitness for military service must be reassessed to make it easier for commanders to recruit soldiers for combat missions and to prevent the concept of limited fitness from being manipulated.

Fades,

All these fucking morons in this post thinking all these people will go to the front are delusional but go ahead and tell us how this spells the end of ukr lmao

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

In other news, Ukraine has not held the passports of migrant workers and impressed them into the armed forces, unlike a certain other country.

emergencyfood,

Technically correct - they only initially refused to allow foreign students to leave the country, and beat up anyone who tried to cross the border.

Source:

ExLisper,

Thanks for you ‘proof’:

“The Ukrainian government has launched an emergency hotline for Africans and Asians fleeing, according to the foreign minister. In a tweet, Dmytro Kuleba said the authorities were “working intensively” to ensure the safety and passage of African and Asian students.”

I don’t think Putin will pay you for this one…

slice1, (edited )

Do you know how many Ukrainians actually have a valid passport?

Edit: rough estimate for issued passports

16,594,248 international passports issued since 2016 Population: 44,982,564 (2020), 36,744,634 (2023) ~37% to 45% => likely less than half of the population

opendatabot.ua/en/analytics/passportswww.worldometers.info/…/ukraine-population/#:~:te….

deft,

All these comments “wow they’ll take anyone, they must be desperate.”

meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao

slice1,

How do you know?

deft,

lol how do you?

slice1, (edited )

The burden of proof is on the accuser - I am not the one making unverifyable claims. Since the war, Ukraine population is reduced by 16%. Who do you think they are recruiting? Interestingly, 1.7 mio. immigrated…

www.worldometers.info/…/ukraine-population/#:~:te….

Fades,

Unverifiable

lmao okay

slice1,

You do understand how those estimates are made? How are they verified? Meanwile Russia has 144 mio population… Do you think they are “running out of manpower”?

deft,

Yes Russia isn’t being invaded 144 mil population doesn’t matter as much. What matters is your fighting force.

Now if you are being invaded your population matters way more since every man, woman and child is forced to defend thus providing your fighting force.

You people are so fuckin stupid

slice1,

“You people”

Sure whatever helps you sleep!

deft,

Yes Russia isn’t being invaded 144 mil population doesn’t matter as much. What matters is your fighting force.

Now if you are being invaded your population matters way more since every man, woman and child is forced to defend thus providing your fighting force.

You people are so fuckin stupid

reply to the content pussy

slice1,

“Pussy”

Sure whatever helps you feel harder/better/stronger

deft,

Yes Russia isn’t being invaded 144 mil population doesn’t matter as much. What matters is your fighting force.

Now if you are being invaded your population matters way more since every man, woman and child is forced to defend thus providing your fighting force.

You people are so fuckin stupid

reply to the content pussy

WarmSoda, (edited )

Deleted.

WarmSoda,

Deleted comment

slice1,

No you!

deft,

they are being invaded case closed

slice1,

Surely they have invaded your brain. This war was in the making for decades. You really think it started with the recent invasion? What role do you think the US and Europe play in this war? Who do you think is accumulating credits/dept for the next generations? Who will swoop in with their cooporations when the dust has settled? Give me a break… the case is wide open.

deft, (edited )

Of course it was decades in the making! Hillary took money from Ukraine during her campaign and Trump took money from Russia. It is known how this relationship goes.

Regardless Russia is losing and Ukraine is fighting for good reason and winning. You agree?

slice1,

Thank you for your constructive comment. Seems like you know what you are talking about.

ExLisper,

LoL

slice1,

Haha - your so funny. You must be really cool and strong. Your wisdom must be at the peak of humanity. Enlighten us and plant your seed for future generations to thrive on the fruits of your genius.

ExLisper,

Dude, if you’re being forced to post pro-russian comments by Putin post another pro-russian comment. We will get you out of there.

slice1,

What did I say that is pro-russia?

deft,

Dunno couldn’t hear you with them boots in your mouth and your nose up an ass

slice1,

“your mouth and your nose up an ass” - deft, 2023

Sounds nice.

deft,

bootlicker

brown-noser

sorry forgot Russians suck at English

slice1,

You seem cool - wanna hang out sometime? Maybe you can teach me english since you seem like such a great communicator.

deft,

well you seem like you suck

gressen,

Personal attacks is a solid way to get blocked.

slice1,

Yeah, laughing at someone is OK (‘lol’). I am just giving you the clownery you are craving for.

IonAddis,
@IonAddis@lemmy.world avatar

For those looking at this comment, this guy seems another one that only crawls out to talk about Ukraine and India.

Interesting comment pattern, to be sure.

slice1,

Ah yes, everyone is a shillbot that does not share your opinion. You can not compensate for your lack of arguments by accusing others of ingenuity. I am a long time lurker that is crawling out becuase I am fed up with the pure feces that is been thrown around since the reddit flush. I was already on this platform while you were circlejerking on 9gag - dip$hit

SCB,

I got chased away from actual social media to the fediverse before shitloads of people came here in protest

Not the sick burn you think it is

slice1,

What the fuck are you talking about. I was never on any social media (other than lemmy.ml). nOt THe sIcK bUrn yOU tHInk iT Is

deft,

I appreciate you spending time with the mentally infirm. God bless ya

pelikan, (edited )

Ukraine:

  • closed border for all males;
  • non-stop involuntary draft of unwilling citizens;
  • resorts to conscripting HIV positives and people with mental health issues.

Russia:

  • first wave of forced mobilization ended half year ago, second wave still not started;
  • still has open border for most citizens (which actually helped a lot of them to avoid first wave of mobilization).

In alternative reality created by western massmedia this definately means that Russia is short of manpower. In world of logical thinking this actually means something else.

deft,

one is being INVADED

You fucking idiot lol

pelikan, (edited )

The question wasn’t who’s being INVADED, the question was who’s DESPERATE FOR MANPOWER.

wtf you’ve lost the point of conversation and of your own original message, that’s the real sign of ridiculous idiocy

deft,

HOLY FUCK y’all so stupid.

let me explain it for you, c’mon hold my hand.

If your country is being invaded every single person is part of the war effort. Every one. Even if you just cut grass or worked at costco, because you are being invaded and under threat of war. You’re part of a war effort. Remanaging your resources like manpower to more war adjacent positions makes complete sense. All hands on deck, we are invaded.

If you are invading and must conscript fighters, your invasion is a meat grinder not going well.

Russia was supposed to end this war long ago, in their minds. At this point it is a sunk cost and they HAVE to win or they severely lose on a play they made.

So no. Not the same. Russia is doing terrible.

pelikan,

Thanks for interesting excursion into your delusions. Actually you’ve just written WHY Ukraine is more desperate for manpower than Russia (“every single person is part of war effort and so on”). So you yourself proved your initial position to be wrong, but you were too lame to grasp that. And about “we are invaded”: the only war that you personally wage is war in lemmy comments against facts, logics and critical thinking. Don’t try to cover your own nullity with other’s casualities.

deft,

personal attack, personal attack… huh nothing? no content ok.

Ukraine is fighting for their lives, Russia is forcing a fight for personal gain of the rich. Different games they’re playing you stupid cuck lol

deft,

nytimes.com/…/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.h…

trafficking people = more desperate

sorry was dunking on another one of you and saw your reply to me, figured I’d just smack that in here thanks

pelikan,

So Russia tried to hire some Cuban mercenaries… literally same as Ukraine has done since the begginning of conflict, scraping mercs from entire world. So there’s no point to argue, really trafficing more mercs = more desperate. From the third attempt you finally managed to bring something like valid argument, sadly it clearly works against you and once again shows that you’re bot without any logical thinking.

deft,

nytimes.com/…/russia-military-draft-ukraine.html

Cuba doesn’t allow mercenary groups, neither does Kazakhstan who Russia has also trafficked people from.

Sounds like your boy Russia is struggling babe

vitriolix,
@vitriolix@lemmy.ml avatar

“trafficing more mercs = more desperate”. … yes, they are desperate, they are being invaded by a much bigger country with a huge military

gencha,
@gencha@feddit.de avatar

Russia did hire Wagner, who recruited from prisons, right?

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

That was like 20k people, and Russian army is estimated to be around 400k now.

deft,

Weird with 400k people they still can’t get shit done and are being bombed on their own turf after failing an invasion with a consistent supply issue. Real weird.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, really weird how Russia is conserving its manpower by letting Ukraine deplete the army the west helped put together and arm for three months. I wonder what will happen once Ukraine depletes its military resources in the coming months. Gotta love all the arm chair generals opining on things they have no clue about. Here, read what an actual military expert has to say on the subject. Maybe you’ll learn something, but I doubt it. www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine

deft,

read it.

  • December 22, 2022. Literally almost a year old.
  • Talks about manpower, likely 3 million draftable men in Ukraine, fails to acknowledge that as the county being invaded they don’t only draft men. There are far more than the 400k (HIGHLY UN)willing Russian meat shields soldiers.
  • Mentions Russian firepower might, doesn’t acknowledge with outdated weapons.
  • Article was written before Ukrainian counter offensive, before Ukraine landed shots on Russian soil and before F-15s.

nice trash you got there kid can i shit on it more? oh I can? thanks.

themoscowtimes.com/…/russian-recruiters-lure-cuba…

that’s an article from a Pro Russian website.

nytimes.com/…/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.h…

Russia is LITERALLY trafficking people because their own soldiers won’t fight. 400k fighting force? More like nada.

Lick my sack boy, fondle them with your wanna-be silver tongue you CCP pussy bitch.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

nice trash you got there kid can i shit on it more? oh I can? thanks.

I love how this imbecile reads an article by U.S. Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin retired after 20 years of service, including eight years as an armor officer with four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and 12 years working as a modeling and simulations officer in NATO and U.S. Army concept development and experimentation, and calls it trash.

Everything the article predicts is currently happening.

Meanwhile, not sure what you think the relevance of your article is here. However, attributing thought to you may be too generous.

You are an utter imbecile and life is going to get very hard for you in the near future. Enjoy being smug while you can though.

deft,

uncomfortable for me? I’m not the one living paycheck to paycheck off Russian and Chinese propaganda lol

year old article.

let’s see today.

nytimes.com/…/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.h…

again, trafficking for soldiers. still no comment? bad look imo.

washingtonpost.com/…/arnold-ukraine-counteroffens…

"Retired U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Mark Arnold, by contrast, isn’t the least bit surprised at the slow pace of the advance — and he’s blaming the Americans, not the Ukrainians…

…June 23, at the very start of the counteroffensive, he emailed me: “I remain very skeptical that a decisive battle will occur this year that makes a material effect toward Ukrainian victory. That can happen next summer when the majority of maneuver equipment arrives from NATO into Ukraine.”

So this guy seems to think once equipped it is GG? And since we only are pumping more equipment that way, it really just continues the way it has for Russia. Pound for pound Ukraine has done more to Russia, yes Russia has more soldiers and a larger population or GPD.

Yet when we look at the actual situation. Russia has failed to take anything significant, they estimated a win by now. Why no win?

Now an entrenched populace, being further armed and personally fueled to fight faces kidnapped Cubans, Russian criminals and force conscripts.

Which is why Russia is losing because simply put as we Americans say, you can lead a horse to water but ya can’t make him drink.

aljazeera.com/…/putin-says-again-ukraine-countero…

Weird, out of all the territory Russia held, Ukraine has reclaimed 54% of it. WOW that is more than half golly, in less than half the time too gee whiz.

And now they’re being equipped with only more weapons?? And Russia is pleading to Iran and North Korea and China for weapons? Hm… thought Russia had a bigger arsenal.

deft,

exactly shut the fuck up get your shit ass propaganda sloppy ass shit out of here lmfao 🤣

deft,
yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

[citation needed]

deft,

look its the moron who posts actual chinese propaganda.

fuck off shit for brains

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

you used so many words to say that you are dumb fuck

deft,

this guy literally posts chinese propaganda lol

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

yes, you’ve told us that you’re a dumb fuck already lol

deft,

literally tho look

lemmygrad.ml/post/1364423

lol that is his post. In the entirety of this conflict Russia hasn’t gained anything but ire from it’s own populace (see moral / attempted coup)

since then Ukraine has regained 54% of it’s territory.

literally propaganda lmfao

TheLastHero,

blood clotting disorders

you could not get me to go to WAR with a blood clotting disorder. Might as well just shoot me at the draft office and let me bleed out right there

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

There are roles for conscripts that don't involve frontline exposure.

slice1,

Are you really trying to justify this?

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes they are lolol. Look at their history.

catfish,

so citizens called to defend their country is worse than literal killers and rapists going into occupied territories the terroruzzzian mafia has been sending for a year now? ‘lolol’ the old men we see posted with their hands tied saying they have grandsons? ‘rofl’

‘tHrEe dAy sPeCiAl mIlItArY oPeRaTiOn’ right? fucken terroruzzzian clowns, dangerous clowns, but clowns none the less

LarkinDePark,

so citizens called to defend their country is worse than

No one said this? What the fuck is wrong with you?

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Catfish, totally not an apt username for a Ukronazi shill. Programmer brodude too, sounds like a malicious Anglo.

catfish,

well, good thing they can set their conscription rules, no need for your approval son.

edit. fucken terroruzzian shills, copeing hard lately on lemmy. what a bunch of muppets.

slice1,

What are you talking about? Satin error medusan pills, copying jarred tales of jelly. Pack lunch you bucket.

Outdoor_Catgirl,
@Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net avatar

Totally the actions of a country that’s winning

Aria,

Maybe they just want to get rid of them. The west seems to mind Nazis a lot less than losers.

slice1,
maporita,

Ukraine was invaded by a tyrant. The people have suffered for over a year, children have been slaughtered or lost limbs, civilians entombed in rubble, and the armed forces have lost tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands defending their homeland.

Now I’m not a violent man but I have to admit, in the face of all these poor people have suffered, reading your glib comment does make me feel like punching something.

LarkinDePark,

Stop being violent towards inanimate objects and start trying to understand your indoctrination and programming. Ukraine was overthrown by the USA so they could start this war. Educate yourself.

randint,

I don’t get why some think that the US or Ukraine started the war. They did not. Russia started it. Why would any country attack another country 28 times its size?

LarkinDePark,

Why do you think Russia started it? The Obama government supported the Nazi led coup that overthrew Ukraine’s democracy. Then the war started because the ethnic minority saw what was coming for them.

slice1,

Also, the US seemed very horny to sell overpriced gas to Europe and dump their dept on Ukraine and EU to fix their inflation. As a side effect they get to use more tax money to modernize their military stocks by moving additional taxmoney to their military industry.

maporita,

“Orwellian” is a term that gets thrown around a lot these days so one hesitates to use it, but when a country invades another sovereign state and then turns round and claims they didn’t start the war it really does sound like something the ministry of truth would say. To be clear. America started the war in Iraq (incidentally I marched in the street in protest). Russia started the war in Ukraine.

LarkinDePark,

But as I already informed, Ukraine was not a “sovereign state”, it was at that point a Nazi led puppet state of the USA. They hamd picked its government and when it was refused in parliament they ignored the result of the vote and put their guy in anyway. “Yats the guy, fuck the EU.”

That was the start of the war. The USA started it. This is historical fact that you’ll have to learn to accept.

To be clear. America started the war in Iraq

The unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Every notice how that was never what they called it? Why do you think that is?

maporita,

We can debate questions of historical sovereignty all night … it will never end. But do you think the majority of Ukrainians would prefer to be part of Russia? If so you are either lying or you live on a different planet. Like the Poles, the Romanians, the Lithuanians, the Czechs, in fact anyone who has lived under the Soviet / Russian boot, Ukrainians for the most part detest and despise Russia (with good reason). The most ardent anti-Russians are the ones who used to be ruled by them.

LarkinDePark,

But do you think the majority of Ukrainians would prefer to be part of Russia?

No of course not. Do you think the majority of the breakaway republics and Crimea want to be part of fascist Ukraine?

the Lithuanians, the Czechs, in fact anyone who has lived under the Soviet / Russian boot

This is a big tell that you’ve been programmed. People lived well in the USSR. You should educate yourself on this.

Ukrainians for the most part detest and despise Russia (with good reason).

This is a very recent development from America’s propagandising and funding of a Nazi extremism that’s taken over the country. The people have fallen for the propaganda, as you have.

Do you think people should have the right to self determination?

cannot,

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  • maus,

    Tankie gonna tank

    yogthos,
    @yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

    dronie gonna drone

    maus,

    🛩

    Zuzak,

    Real Volkssturm hours

    CascadeOfLight,

    This is who they were sending to the front in April last year so yea

    https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/4e4ab049-c06d-43a8-a808-b5aadf6ec2d2.png

    ExLisper,

    Now show the Russians. LoL.

    Guntrigger,

    It doesn’t feel like a great idea to conscript those with mental health issues heavily impacted by stress.

    Alto,
    @Alto@kbin.social avatar

    Could always be used in administrative roles

    Guntrigger,

    True. I always read conscription and think “sent to the frontlines”, but there’s a lot of logistics and support that goes into an army.

    Fondots,

    My dad got drafted during Vietnam, and landed himself a position doing some supply/logistics stuff and basically spent his whole time chilling in Kentucky doing warehouse and office stuff. Admittedly he also did his damnedest on every aptitude test, evaluation, etc. they gave him to make himself out to be a coward and play up any non-combat skills he had specifically trying to end up doing something like that.

    There’s of course a lot of differences between 'Nam and Ukraine, but at the end of the day every army throughout history has relied on a whole bunch of people who weren’t on the front lines to make things work. You need a whole lot of mechanics, warehouse workers, pencil pushers, IT staff, cooks, medical staff, truck drivers, etc. and if you’re able to use people who wouldn’t be able to hack it physically/mentally/emotionally on the front lines to fill those roles, it’s kind of a no-brainer so that soldiers who are able to do it aren’t tied up behind the scenes when they’re needed.

    Of course it absolutely sucks for anyone who gets conscripted.

    Alto,
    @Alto@kbin.social avatar

    Somewhat similar to what happened to my grandpa. Technically wasn't drafted, he had buddy in the draft office gave him a heads up that'd it'd be a very good idea for him to enlist soon. He ended up as a supply officer in Okinawa and got to take my grandma with him. Good thing too (and largely why it happened), the man's eyesight is/was awful. He would've almost certainly been a dead man had he ever lost his glasses in combat

    Zuberi,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    My thoughts exactly. You put me on the front line and my general commander is getting a bullet. Not saying I’ll remember doing it but nobody dies except those that force me to kill.

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    Saying you don't "remember" doing it is probably not going to help much in your court-martial when you've posted a pre-meditated plan to do it on an open social media platform beforehand.

    Zuberi,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Who tf cares lmfao.

    You’ve been warned global military

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    /r/IAmVeryBadass

    Zuberi,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I would rather die than kill. If you tell me to kill I will kill you first to limit the amount of total death.

    This is the ultimate utilitarian take on the ethics of the situation you dunce.

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    You say you'd rather die than kill, and then in the very next line you threaten to kill me for telling you something.

    You need to read up on what being a "conscientious objector" is actually about, or whatever it is you're going for here, because your philosophy is incoherent.

    Zuberi,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Believe it or not, this would completely cripple military power across the board. Overall, resulting in less death than the death of the white collar pencil pushers that command troops.

    Sure you can be the bootlicker that shoots people for funsies, don’t come crying to me when you get drafted

    Edit: where tf did I threaten you specifically?..

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    You said:

    If you tell me to kill I will kill you first

    Even if you just mean it as a "generic" you, you're still making it quite clear that you're more willing to kill than you are to die.

    You realize there are other options than "follow orders to kill someone" and "kill the guy who gave you an order", right?

    don’t come crying to me when you get drafted

    I'm Canadian.

    Zuberi,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Definitely generic “you.” But if you plan on leading troops we can make it happen?

    Edit: Honestly cute you think Canada wouldn’t follow USA into the next great drafted war

    FaceDeer,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    But if you plan on leading troops we can make it happen?

    So right after saying you didn't threaten me personally, you expand your threat to cover me personally.

    Zuberi,
    @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I’m happy your reading comprehension got that finally :)

    Landrin201,
    @Landrin201@lemmy.ml avatar

    It’s a terrible idea and it tells me that all the propaganda were getting about Ukraine clearly winning and barely losing anyone is bullshit. They must be real desperate if they’re conscription people with mental disorders.

    nexusband,
    @nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

    Look at the list and stop talking out your ass. Wars are won due to logistics, lots of paperwork and so on. Granted, the situation could be better, but let’s not pretend Ukraine has its back against a wall.

    They are still kicking Russia like nothing before.

    Also, they are not just accepting any mental disorder, there are many disorders that may prevent someone to be in the front, but they don’t prevent one to carry supplies from A-B in the back country. Wars are not just won through fights on the front.

    Pattern,
    @Pattern@lemmy.world avatar

    If they could read they’d be super shocked by who the Russians are conscripting.

    LarkinDePark,

    Who are the Russians conscripting?

    Pattern,
    @Pattern@lemmy.world avatar

    Both Wagner and the regular military have been conscripting criminals straight out of prison and sending them right into the meat grinder with little training and/or equipment.

    batslug,

    as has Ukraine lol

    Pattern,
    @Pattern@lemmy.world avatar

    No. Not as a deliberate tactic and not nearly to the same extent.

    slice1,

    Wow… How do you think this works? Where are wars “won”? How is this not an act of desperation?

    chaosppe,
    @chaosppe@lemmy.world avatar

    A wall is only as strong as its weakest section. This is indeed not great news.

    thelastaxolotl,
    @thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net avatar

    they must be running out of manpower

    huf,

    nah it’s fine, they just clicked “scraping the barrel”, now they just have to do some meme encirclements

    kayjay,

    smh shoulda done order 66 when they had the chance

    cannot,

    deleted_by_moderator

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    jesus christ

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