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VanillaGorilla, in Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show

Quick, I need to know this. Was he correct?

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

We are still waiting for his comment on the subject to surface.

Sordid,
@Sordid@kbin.social avatar

I have a sinking feeling he might have made a mistake.

finthechat, (edited )
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

This is a pretty low joke, why don't you show some respect here?

I am sure he was under a lot of pressure to run a successful business. Traveling down to the bottom of the ocean is a titanic undertaking. If people started to complain about safety regulations, then that was just the tip of the iceberg and who knows what other obstacles could have cropped up along the way to sink his ship.

Edit: 2 people can't read

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Wow, that was ice cold of you. I think you need a stern talking-to!

kommanditbolag,
@kommanditbolag@kbin.social avatar

Seems the barrell for these jokes is bottomless!

Haileaf01,
@Haileaf01@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@finthechat @jay91 @VanillaGorilla @NumbersCanBeFun @Sordid guarantee this guy had it made and is a rich idiot

finthechat,
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

Still, this was a deep situation. It's unfathomable to think that anyone could feel nothing about this.

You don't have to feel crushed by the news, but at least show some respect. If I had $250,000 for every rude comment I've read about OceanGate in the last few days...

May they rest in PSI.

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

I was in the Marines and you couldn’t pay me to sink to the bottom of the ocean in a metal tube bolted in with 4 other idiots. They all signed a waiver stating the vehicle wasn’t properly tested.

There is no respect to be given here. All of them were advised of the risks and they accepted them. We are free to make fun of them for their decision since they literally signed a waiver for their lives.

Safety regulations save lives. If my crew wasn’t properly anchored to something I’d lambast them for improper safety. I’ve also terminated crews for not following safety protocols. There was nothing safe about what these idiots did and they got exactly what was coming to them.

slaacaa,

Come on, stop with the jokes about billionaires, they are still good people (deep down)

NumbersCanBeFun,
@NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social avatar

I’ve got a sinking feeling that you might be wrong about that 😅

finthechat,
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

Societal etiquette has really imploded in the last few years. Every time I look at social media, it's like I am seeing new depths of bad behavior. I hope someday we can all gain some perspective and stop taking on water so we can right this sinking ship.

ChickenLadyLovesLife,

They didn't get to be billionaires by collapsing under pressure.

randomperson, in Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show
@randomperson@kbin.social avatar

At this point everyone knows this man was incompetent in every aspect. Do we really need to read about it once again? People died, that's sad but they were fully aware of the risks. Let's move on.

MrsEaves,
@MrsEaves@kbin.social avatar

I think I can get behind a few more days of this if it sears into any other rich, incompetent asshole’s brain out there a fear that their legacy will be as a laughingstock, not a genius engineering disruptor, if they ignore safety regulations.

randomperson,
@randomperson@kbin.social avatar

I doubt other rich read such things anyway. They already heard it, probably giggled that he really was that stupid and moved on.

Duamerthrax,

“It would never happen to me. I’m one of the smart ones.” Said everyone that would eventually have it happen to them. God damn people that dont wear their seatbelts.

panda_paddle, in Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show

I hate to say I'm glad he was the pilot, but I kinda am. If he was around right now he would be insufferable. Most likely going on a damage control tour talking about how it was a freak accident, it's not his companies fault and how they can't wait to resume tours.

MiddleWeigh,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

He's just avoiding legal action. Good business man.

BackOnMyBS, in New Zealand PM disagrees with Biden, says Xi not a ‘dictator’
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

In science, we come up with concepts and then name them (ball hits wall = force). We then find other phenomena that match those definitions using objective criteria (does car hit pole = force? yes, so it's force).

In politics, we come up with terms and associate feelings to them through classical conditioning (dictator = bad, dictator = bad,...). We then find phenomena that affects us in beneficial or harmful ways (Chinese leader is good for New Zealand economy), then label them based on how we want others to feel about it (China leader ≠ dictator/bad).

SubArcticTundra,

Good analysis

Drusas, in Russia ambassador warns U.S. resolution pushes for nuclear war over Ukraine

The proposed resolution "views the use of any tactical nuclear weapon by the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus, or their proxies, or the destruction of a nuclear facility, dispersing radioactive contaminates into NATO territory causing significant harm to human life as an attack on NATO requiring an immediate response, including the implementation of Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty."

Doesn't seem unreasonable. Any nuclear attack or disaster in Ukraine would affect neighboring countries.

sin_free_for_00_days,

Wait until the wind is blowing from the west, drop a nuke, viola! No fall out on NATO, no justification for an Article V response.

TomHardy,
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Yeah shelling Nuclear power plants and using depleted uranium ammo is something only NATO clowns can do, when Russia is using something radioactive, we suddenly start to think about the neighbors!1!!1!

Valmond,

Nice whatabouism.

TomHardy,
@TomHardy@lemmy.ml avatar

In what sense? That the very gentlemen who tipped their hats and said to Russia’s concerns on toxic ammo “bla bla”, now assemble because of the same concerns, are called reasonable?

utopianfiat,

You don't have to be online all the time, you know. There are other things you can be doing with your life.

TomHardy,
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zurma,

Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but I’ll be charitable and assume you are.

TomHardy, (edited )
@TomHardy@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t understand if you are sarcastic? Literally a few months ago the Britbongs announced they sent depleted uranium ammo to Ukraine, known for causing increased cancer rates and birth defects in the regions they are used. Japan said they will donate trucks which were used during Fukushima and still are radioactive to Ukraine. Now, NATO suddenly cares about contaminates? LMAO this only proves Westerners see Ukrainians as subhumans just as they see Russians, they put them through stuff they would never accept on their soil.

Lols,

anything on 'the use of any tactical nuclear weapon' or 'the destruction of a nuclear facility', what with that being what the conversation is about and all

TomHardy,
@TomHardy@lemmy.ml avatar

…, dispersing radioactive contaminates into NATO territory…

This you left out on purpose?

Lols,

having a rough day for some reason?

received some bad news, maybe?

TomHardy,
@TomHardy@lemmy.ml avatar

Not really, just got reminded of this kind of memes bro https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/07da5cf3-390a-4fb8-a080-99ea5bbe8168.png

Lols,

you really caught @terror_alarm on twitter in 4k

if he was a part of this conversation hed be entirely shook, im sure

TomHardy,
@TomHardy@lemmy.ml avatar

Hey mr big brains, that was only for example sake, I had the talk between the Bri’ish gents and Russia in mind, I don’t even know what this twitter account is

carbonprop, in Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show

Every transport industry is heavily regulated with regards to safety for a reason. If you start a commercial enterprise on an untested vehicle you’re asking for trouble.

TheButtonJustSpins,

What could go wrong 13000 feet under the ocean?

maybe,
@maybe@lemmy.world avatar

13,000 feet into the ocean. Being under the ocean requires some digging, I think.

maybe, (edited )
@maybe@lemmy.world avatar

I have no issues with an untested tin can as a traveling device through a high pressure environment. However, I am personally going to pass if the opportunity arises for me to try this out.

Wild_Mastic, in Sunken boat killing hundreds overshadowed by Titan submersible coverage

Unfortunately where I live we hear weekly in the news of these immigrants boats.

Can't do much as a small community, except sending help as soon as we know another one sunk.

Che_Donkey, in Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show
@Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean, by all means you have the right to take yourself out however you want, but to take others with you is what they call “a dick move”.

I mean, I hate speaking ill of the dead, but fuck this guy.

jkure2,

Going to the bottom of the atlantic in a pringles can is a pretty baller way to do it to yourself too.

Charging a quarter mil to do it to others is decidedly not baller 😞

ArugulaZ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

Hey, dead people are bastards, too.

Ertebolle,

If you’re going to speak ill of any of them, it should probably be the guy who was responsible for the deaths of the other four; when somebody murders his family and then himself, we don’t generally treat that person as a victim.

TheButtonJustSpins, in Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show

At least he went down with the ship sub.

em2,
@em2@lemmy.ml avatar

He just wanted the authentic experience.

Eisenhowever,

Authentic risk or gtfo

thebardingreen,
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

He didn't get it. They were all killed instantly.

slaacaa,

I wonder if we could buy 2 for Titan & Titanic wreckage viewing in the future

someguy3, (edited )

Does the strikethrough not appear to anyone else? To me it shows the ~s.

*On Jerboa for Lemmy.

realcaseyrollins,
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@someguy3 @TheButtonJustSpins Same thing happens to me but I'm on

sin_free_for_00_days,

Shows as a strikethrough for me. Desktop.

vaguerant,
@vaguerant@kbin.social avatar

Working fine here (kbin web interface). Possibly a limitation of whatever app you're using? I would expect it to work fine via web, though.

ccunix,

Jerboa too, and it is not rendering the strike through.

kiddblur,

Works for me, lemmy app

TheButtonJustSpins,

I installed the PWA because of the issues with Jerboa. Looking forward to Jerboa being a better experience eventually, though.

someguy3,

I played with both and prefer jerboa by a lot There's one bug where to respond to your inbox you have to long press next to the name to bring up options.

arefx,

I’m also on jerboa and don’t see the strikethrough

Kotton,
@Kotton@lemmy.ml avatar

I installed newest update and can see the strikethough

HolyHell,

Works for me on Memmy

hoshikarakitaridia, in New Zealand PM disagrees with Biden, says Xi not a ‘dictator’
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

That's way too respectful for poo the bear who loves holding minorities in detention camps.

bigkahuna1986, in If you have a hard time understanding where the shortage of empathy for the sub crew comes from. here is a pretty good explainer.

If the sub had 5 random Joes instead of some millionaires, would the media give a crap? Would half the US navy be out looking for them? Not only did they suck so much wealth out of the lower classes to go on this trip, everyone is expected to bend over backwards to find these precious job creators. Imagine having that kind of safety net. I couldn’t even break my arm without declaring bankruptcy.

kartonrealista, in New Zealand PM disagrees with Biden, says Xi not a ‘dictator’
@kartonrealista@lemmy.world avatar

Coward

exohuman, in Russia ambassador warns U.S. resolution pushes for nuclear war over Ukraine
@exohuman@kbin.social avatar

Sorry, I thought we were in 1970 again. Continue on with your proxy wars and nuclear annihilation threats.

DarkThoughts,

I hear nuclear threats from Russia on a weekly to monthly basis for the past year. I don't even care anymore. If they want to do it they'll do it anyway. So the only thing we can do is to be prepared and answer appropriately instead of letting us get all submissive and let them do whatever the hell they want. Nuclear weapons shouldn't be a free pass to act like an imperialistic asshole.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Nuclear weapons shouldn’t be a free pass to act like an imperialistic asshole.

Somebody should let US know.

Lols,

THE USA!!!! THE USA!!!!! WHAT ABOUT THE USA!!!!!!

UrbenLegend, in If you have a hard time understanding where the shortage of empathy for the sub crew comes from. here is a pretty good explainer.

Well fucking said.

CanadaPlus, (edited ) in TITANIC SUB SEARCH | USCG concludes missing Titan sub met 'catastrophic implosion'

Why did they go with carbon fiber anyway? It's light, but in a leisure submarine like that you could always just add more buoyancy if the thing gets heavy. Is this a case of an aerospace engineer thinking "everything looks like a nail"? It's poetic he was on it when the composite did the composite thing and became plastic again, if so.

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