clearedtoland,

Just when Google thought it could kill adblocking…

jpj007,

Well as far as adblocking goes, mobile FireFox already supports uBlock Origin.

Colorcodedresistor,

Holy Fuck. Call me Ramsay, Finally some delicious fucking tech. the separation gap between mobile and pc has been going on for far too long. anything to help merge the pair. yes. all the yes.

juice,

First? What about Kiwi browser? Edit: I just remembered even old firefox supported most desktop addons…

lorkano,

And many others

nix,
@nix@merv.news avatar

Orion Browser by the team that makes the Kagi search engine makes this possible on ios already

just_another_person,

Nah. They use hacks. This is native.

scytale,

It’s the next best thing on IOS because you can’t install extensions on FF.

just_another_person,

Next best thing aint the same thing. Blame Apple for that.

Prethoryn,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

The user’s point still stands. He was offering an exception if you don’t want to wait on FF or Apple to change something for FF. Quit being smug aka an asshole.

just_another_person,

Not being smug at all. They are polar opposites to most people.

EyesEyesBaby,

I don’t care what others are saying, but I’ve never heard of this browser and I’m definitely going to give it a try. Wish I knew about this one sooner.

noodle,
@noodle@feddit.uk avatar

It’s long overdue. I’ve been running Nightly to get around the shockingly limited number of addons available on Firefox for Android. Hopefully Mozzila don’t fumble the bag with this as its a great opportunity to steal users from Chrome.

raptir,

I do find it funny when people talk about how few extensions are supported, when it has the best extension support of any mobile browser.

Like I get it, but still.

noodle,
@noodle@feddit.uk avatar

Relative to desktop, it is comparatively few.

Best on mobile, yes. The few they allow in FFfA stable is a tiny amount considering how many actually can work, but Mozilla arbitrarily decided they won’t allow.

NickNak,

It used to be able to support all desktop addons but they for some reason took that away a while back

raptir,

The reason was they completely rewrote the mobile browser.

NickNak,

I didn’t know it was a mass rewrite, I just assumed they ruined the UI and features to “keep” up with mobile chrome, as most of these big tech companies do

CifrareVerba,
@CifrareVerba@lemmy.world avatar

I wish Mozilla listened to its users like it used to.

Vivaldi has been great on Android, desktop and iOS/iPadOS and even keeps the customization built in that Firefox used to have.

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Vivaldi would be kind of cool if not for the chromium thing being a huge downer… but I gotta say, their featureset is slightly weird.

Firefox on android though? Is great.

CifrareVerba,
@CifrareVerba@lemmy.world avatar

I know it’s a big issue for many given the bad news and crap Google does, but Mozilla is actively taking away features from Gecko whereas Vivaldi, Microsoft, Google and Samsung are improving chromium. I find it hard to make Firefox behave how I want it to when browsers like Vivaldi or even Edge make it easy.

I know a common sentiment I hear (at least on Reddit) is “Why didn’t so and so’s browser use Gecko?” but when a company or person does, a lot of /r/Firefox and /r/Linux users will get upset that they are forking Firefox instead of adding to Firefox/Gecko.

danielton,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

Remember when different browsers used to have different rendering engines?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

CifrareVerba,
@CifrareVerba@lemmy.world avatar

For sure. Chromium, Gecko, WebKit, Trident, Presto… I also remember people then telling users to ditch other browsers… and the same people who said it 10-15 years ago are now the same people who are worried about the duopoly (WebKit and Blink) and lack of Gecko and browser/rendering engine innovation(s).

cpressland,
@cpressland@celeb.pizza avatar

I would kill for this on iOS. Don’t get me wrong, I’m pretty happy with my Safari Extensions, but I’d rather have uBlock Origin, Stylish etc.

Prethoryn,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

I think I read that it previously supported full blown extension and they removed it due to some under the hood changes.

Draconic_NEO,
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world avatar

It did, legacy versions of it had almost full extension support and also even allowed you to install them from storage as xpi files and poke around about:config, then they took away both of those things completely in fenix (only allowing about:config in debug versions and blocking XPI install altogether).

DacoTaco,

Nothing to do with this thread just saying hello o7

crowsby,
@crowsby@lemmy.world avatar

Kudos to them for rolling out support more widely, but it’s a bit misleading as Firefox nightly/Fennec has supported extensions for years (albeit via a cumbersome process), and Kiwi Browser is also a thing.

I can’t understand how folks out there are just rawdogging the Internet out there without ublock or at least a DNS ad filter. Admittedly, Chrome runs a hair more smoothly, but the ability to use extensions like uBlock / DarkReader / Consent-O-Matic make the Firefox experience a tier above.

I just hope this makes it possible to install the Bypass Paywalls extension again so I don’t have to hop over to Kiwi for that.

darth_helmet,

Orion supports Firefox and chrome extensions

ch1cken,

Only a very small set of them though, and their functionality would likely be limited. Hopefully non-webkit browsers will come to ios soon, with proper desktop addons, following the eu pressuring them into allowing sideloading.

Siliconic,

About time. I’m tempted to switch back to Mull from Bromite, but I’m worried about the security of Firefox compared to Chromium (that’s why I switched in the first place), I’ve heard that particularly Mobile Firefox has awful sandboxing and bad security, I’m pretty sure it was the GrapheneOS team saying this? I’m no security expert though…

randint,

Yes it was the GrapheneOS team who said that. See the paragraph just above https://grapheneos.org/usage#camera. I literally just skimmed their guides and saw this yesterday while considering getting a Pixel.

z3rOR0ne, (edited )
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

I use Mull and Vanadium on Graphene OS, and the experience on Vanadium is just okay by comparison. It is true that not having extensions does decrease the attack surface, and Vanadium does have a built in ad blocker, but it simply isn’t as all encompassing as ublock’s list.

I use Mull mainly but don’t log into anything with it, and have noscript extension on by default.

I also turn off JS by default in Vanadium. Both browsers have ways of making exceptions for certain sites in this case, but NoScript has more granular control.

I remember reading on reddit a convo that basically the GrapheneOS team was much more concerned with security than privacy. This isn’t to say they don’t care about privacy at all, just that they will always prioritize security first.

This makes sense considering their decision to only officially support the Pixel line of devices. You still are supporting Google by giving them your money (and a bit of your data in the process of purchase). Additionally, the decision to default to using the Google Play Store and sandbox the apps, rather than use the Aurora Store, also points to these underlying values.

randint,

Yeah, I can tell this just from skimming their FAQ and Usage Guides. When they talk about the applications they offer, they always sell it as the most secure thing ever. I still personally care more about privacy than security though.

JuvenoiaAgent,
@JuvenoiaAgent@lemmy.ca avatar

Posted this above, but it might interest you as an alternative to Vanadium:

Bromite hasn’t been updated in a while, so you should at least switch to Cromite if you’re not switching to Mull. It’s a fork by a previous Bromite contributor and includes some improvements, like a bottom toolbar and adblock plus (so normal block lists, not Bromite’s less customizable ad blocker.

z3rOR0ne,
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

Is Vanadium just Bromite under the hood? I thought they were separate projects…

JuvenoiaAgent,
@JuvenoiaAgent@lemmy.ca avatar

They’re different, but according to its readme, Cromite includes “security enhancement patches from GrapheneOS project”, so I assume it contains Vanadium’s changes as well as other improvements.

z3rOR0ne,
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

Thanks for the clarification! I’ll investigate.

JuvenoiaAgent,
@JuvenoiaAgent@lemmy.ca avatar

Bromite hasn’t been updated in a while, so you should at least switch to Cromite if you’re not switching to Mull. It’s a fork by a previous Bromite contributor and includes some improvements, like a bottom toolbar and adblock plus (so normal block lists, not Bromite’s less customizable ad blocker.

Siliconic,

Thanks, I hadn’t noticed it wasn’t updating

pornhubfan,

There’s a good comparison here.

Wyrryel,

Thanks for cross-posting instead of re-posting!

spikespaz,

Kiwi Browser

MichaelTen,

Yep.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Stop lying, Kiwi has been around for so long

DarkThoughts,

They probably mean official browsers, not random forks.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

How is Kiwi less a browser than firefox? Non-sense

DarkThoughts,

It's an inofficial fork of an official browser. Where are you struggling to comprehend this?

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

An “official” browser? So the web relies on named authorities now? That’s just disrespect from big players. This shall not be tolerated.

sir_reginald,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar
callyral,
@callyral@kbin.social avatar

What about Kiwi and Iceraven (Iceraven is a Firefox fork which has more extensions)

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