Any way to listen to music (privately?)

I’m going insane. I cannot for the life of me find a suitable way to listen to music privately. I’m on iOS, and I don’t know whether to just stick to Apple Music or give up on music in general (I tried, TRIED to go local, but all the apps are shitty). Any way to listen to music and not have your data compromised? Should I just stick to Apple Music and hope that laws change (maybe something like EU’s DMA?)

Edit: Hey all! First of all, thank you so much for all the recommendations! I’ve discovered so many great apps and tools I didn’t even know existed (and it has also brought my hopes up for privacy in general). Even though it’s still not perfect, I’ve been using foobar2000 on iOS, downloading music I find (I’m still using Apple Music for discovery, but will probably stop when my subscription ends this month). For desktop I’m using HyperPipe, which although a little buggy at times is so awesome! One thing I do miss about this system is the lack of lyrics. Apple Music has such a beautiful UI when it comes with lyrics, but you can’t have it all when it comes to privacy it seems. Thanks for the amazing discussion! I’m so far loving Lemmy ;)

nyakojiru,
@nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Nicotine+ and Plexamp

Anticorp,

MP3 files that you own. They can never take them away from you, and you don’t have to pay every month for them.

foxmoss,
@foxmoss@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Android has a fair few foss music apps.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

flac

nomadjoanne,

Jellyfin.

Postis2,

Why? You can just use syncthing

nomadjoanne,

Some people have hundreds of gigabytes of perfectly legally obtained music.

They don’t want all of this on their phone. Also you can have your movies and shows on Jellyfin.

Dillacorn,

I built an OpenMediaVault NAS and run a JellyFin server on it… connect with wireguard and stream music with Symfonium I’ve decided to download on the web… it’s a little work to get there but it’s def private as long as you trust the devs. I’d also recommend vimusic for music discovery and web playing.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Is there something wrong with mp3s?

airikr,

I download the music from YouTube (through front-end services like Piped) and play it locally through a music player.

I don’t know how it works on iPhone (I have an Android phone), but I can use NewPipe and LibreTube and Seal to download the music. If I’m on the go that is. Otherwise I download the music through ytdlp and transfer the files to my smartphone.

Apple really restrict their users to their own ecosystem.

uberrice,

Yt-dlp is great for getting music from YouTube music.

You even get fairly good quality if you have premium (I do through Argentina, so it costs me cents per month)

airikr,

Woot? yt-dlp premium? Never heard of it. yt-dlp have always been and will always be free (donations aside) since it’s open sourced. Sounds like you pay to a scammer. Or do you mean YouTube Premium? :)

uberrice,

YouTube premium to access the higher bitrates through Yt-dlp ;)

slacktoid,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

Setup your own subsonic or ampache server. nextcloud has an app for that.

quantenzitrone,

If anyone is interested, i recently developed my own system of defining my music library declaratively in the Nix programming language and started switching to it. It creates folders as playlists and can automatically download the music from YouTube or SoundCloud. I plan to expand and improve this further.

I doubt this will work on IOS tho, sorry OP.

codeberg.org/…/declarative-music.nix

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

ViMusic

Postis2,

No innertune is better and he is on IOS

StewartGilligan,

If you want something on Android, check out https://github.com/vfsfitvnm/ViMusic. It uses YouTube Music as a back-end and can recommend stuff based on what you listen. It also supports offline playback. On desktop, you can use https://codeberg.org/Hyperpipe/Hyperpipe. It also uses YouTube Music as its back-end.

If you want ultimate privacy, then download your favorite songs and use VLC or self host them and stream it from there.

Postis2, (edited )

Vimusic is not getting updates anymore innertune is a vimusic fork that i think is better

darkwiiingduck,

You know you can use the Apple Music app for local files right?

astrobound,

i believe it logs your listening history even with local files and uploads it to apple. i could be completely wrong but iirc itunes used to do this too back in the day

yyy,

DeezLoader to download via Deezer api then upload to Astiga to listen on all devices.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Self-host your library? I don’t know why that seems so hard, going by your phrasing.

If you absolutely must listen to music online (I empathise, I need to do so to find new music), here’s what I do: Librewolf with Ublock Origin, Cookie Manager, Dark Reader, NoScript + music.youtube.com.

No advertisements, minimal tracking (because you will explicitly disable every other script than the one(s) required to stream music). Use a VPN and fake your user-agent/browser fingerprint for more privacy (haven’t done it since I can’t figure out how to do so for Firefox).

Cheers

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