Can you easily communicate in your country (business/private life) without being involuntarily forced to use whatsapp?

… is it possible to do any kind of business and/or have regular conversations without having to use whatsapp as a main way of communication?

If you’d like you can say in what country you’re living.

whenever8186,

UK here. Most people I work with will have Signal or Telegram. However my kids and the parents groups and schools all use WhatsApp.

None of them could get their friends to switch from WhatsApp. Nobody gives a shit at all about Meta and their dodgy data practices. Convenience is king. “aLL mY frIEnDs aRE oN WHatSaPp!”

They will literally be excluded if they don’t use it.

Super-frustrating and makes me feel pretty helpless tbh.

Bazzatron,

Basically the same here. WhatsApp is basically “dial-a-boomer” on my phone.

Little sad that Signal dropped SMS support, but I get it.

mojo,

I’m in the US and we use SMS instead of any specific app. It’s a pretty shitty protocol, but it’s at least not tied to any company.

Maybe in 2040 we’ll get an upgraded protocol when companies megacorps actually decide to try and bridge protocols.

CurrMudgeon,

Modern Android devices already use RCS, we just need Apple to get on board.

brimnac,

Apple is well known for their love of open standards, of course…

Edit: I really wish they would. I have an iPhone and cannot stand how they hold back multimedia messages when non-Apple phones are included.

mojo,

That’s exactly what I was getting at

bric,

Unfortunately, iMessage’s proprietary format is far more common than RCS in the US, it works better than RCS, and apple makes a lot of money using it to keep people tied to their ecosystem, so it’s unlikely anything is going to change without government action

mojo,

Though I wouldn’t say Androids get it. More like Google Messages and a very few select apps get RCS. It’s a standard protocol in theory. In practice, not so much. I think there’s like 3 total apps. You’ll probably never see a FOSS RCS app, or one that isn’t tied to a big corp. Server implentations of RCS also aren’t standard, but most use Google Jibe.

krayj,

USA here - I work for a fortune 500 technology industry company…We use MS Teams internally for most stuff, mostly use MS Teams for organized conf calls internally and with customers, and then use regular text messaging for one-off messages with each other and customers. We don’t use whatsapp at all for anything - I am pretty sure I don’t even have a whatsapp account.

None of my friends use whatsapp either. I communicate with most of my friends and family via text message, a few of my more paranoid friends will only chat via “Signal”, and then for bigger group chats we use Discord.

3ntranced,

‘MS Teams’ Shudders

krayj,

Unfortunately, after you eliminate all the collab services blatantly handing their data to government-backed built-in spy services, and all the services with off-shore backend servers, and all the services with poor track records for security, MS Teams is one of the only options left…as shitty as it is. Our customers insist on it, so we bend to their will.

chepox,

México. Everyone uses whatsapp. For personal communication or work. Businesses have their accounts you can order stuff through. Nobody uses SMS or pretty much any other chat app.

Sebasdotworld,

A lot of people use Facebook messenger for marketplace.

I hate 90% of meta, but I use WhatsApp and IG because everyone uses it.

ulu_mulu,
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Microsoft Teams is the official communication tool for business where I work, no need to use whatsapp tho a few colleagues use it for fluff, as for personal/family, some of my family use whatsapp but I don’t (I use Discord), if we want to talk to each other we use “good old-fashioned” phone calls :D

FartsWithAnAccent,
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Murican here: Yes, I don’t really use apps at all to communicate with people I know outside of work. The last time I used Whatsapp was when I was dating this girl who originally from Brazil. After we broke up I never had a need to use it.

SmashingSquid,

US here. Over only used Whatsapp a few times. Everyone I know is either via iMessage or telegram. Businesses mainly use Facebook messenger.

ecoboy,

Filipino living in Singapore, married to a Japanese:

Philippines - Facebook Messenger (they love Facebook there) Singapore - WhatsApp (everyone uses it here, especially businesses, so it’s hard not to have it installed) Japan - Line (I think it’s because of the stickers and emojis?)

firebat,
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Lost a bunch of contacts after ditching WhatsApp a few years back but eventually managed to get most of my valuable ones to use Signal.
Work-wise everyone uses WhatsApp, for example my team has a group chat that I am not a part of, so I am losing some info on that side.
When traveling I also get a lot of prompts to use WhatsApp for example two hotels we stayed at this year did concierge only via WhatsApp.

P.S. Shameless plugin for /m/Signal

Acamon,

Most of my friends are in signal, but I still use WhatsApp for those who aren’t, and for my family. Never really used WhatsApp to communicate with business. (UK)

ArtOfDoubt,

I’m in Canada. My s/o once had an employer force their staff to use WhatsApp and it was horrible, lol. The notifications were constant and the whole getting work stuff while at home was annoying. But she never had that happen before or after that one employer.

I’ve never had an employer use WhatsApp, they communicate by text if I need to be reached when I’m not working (rare for me), or email/Teams if I’m at work.

dsemy,

We get it Americans, you don’t use Whatsapp.

Unfortunately in most of the world it is pretty much required in many cases - I’m part of 3 work related Whatsapp groups (2 mandatory), many University groups (not mandatory technically, but much information posted there isn’t posted anywhere else), and most people I know mainly use Whatsapp as their IM platform.

Many businesses use Whatsapp for contact too these days.

foo,

Canada. Email, SMS.

SpeedLimit55,

Yes, whatsapp is not popular in USA. An iPhone is basically expected for messaging though.

mojo,

The iphone part is not even close to being somewhat true. There are more Android users the iPhone users.

CurrMudgeon,

Worldwide, yes, there are more Android users. In the US, almost 60% of people use iOS.

Omgarm,

The Netherlands and I barely use anything else to communicate with friends and family. Whatsapp is pretty much the only means of communication people use here.

Hyperreality,

Same in Belgium and Germany IME.

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