PopcornPlayaa_,

Can you really compare the two? Sometimes you can fly without a plane, you just die a couple of seconds after free fall . Also, why are vaccines seatbelts, isn’t the whole point to immunize? Or is that just for every other vaccine except this one?

PopcornPlayaa_,

Yeah maybe gene therapy, not a vaccine in my mind. I never got Polio and I was vaxxed so what gives? Is this the only vaccine that works like dogshit?

MyNameIsIgglePiggle,

So what. I’ve got covid for the fifth time now.

We all have covid on this blessed day

robocall,

Get well soon, J-girl!

PopcornPlayaa_,

Wasn’t she vaxxed like 30 times by now? How in the world could she have gotten Covid!?

TastyWheat,

The same way you can wear a seat belt but still crash your car.

TvanBuuren,

Never heard this one, but I’m using it from now on…

PopcornPlayaa_,

Seatbelts don’t prevent accidents. Vaccines prevent infection (except for the covid vaccine)

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

You’ve had 3 years to understand how the vaccine works. We’re you just not paying attention?

PopcornPlayaa_,

Vaccines have been around a lot longer than 3 years…

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

And yet you still don’t know that vaccines don’t stop you from getting a virus. They only limit the damage they can do.

PopcornPlayaa_,

Normal vaccines are used to immunize people against a disease.

Immunize means make (a person or animal) resistant to a particular infectious disease or pathogen, typically by vaccination.

The only “vaccine” that”limits the damage” is the covid vax. I got it twice and still ended up with covid. My brother had it to and his was just as mild and he wasnt vaxxed.

The idea that it limits the damage is questionable at best.

I’m all ears though, show me data and i’d consider your viewpoint but I just dont think it exists…

PopcornPlayaa_,

Any response?

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe now Biden will remember COVID exists… as if.

bamboo,

What do you mean about that?

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

He prematurely declared the pandemic over almost a year ago fiercehealthcare.com/…/biden-declares-covid-19-pa…because he’s a corporate tool and believes in fuck all imho

Chetzemoka,

The pandemic IS over. Covid has become an endemic virus just like we always expected it to.

https://www.webmd.com/covid/news/20230317/time-to-stop-calling-it-a-pandemic

https://www.lung.org/blog/epidemic-pandemic-endemic-covid

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

That might be the case globally. Regardless, it was never addressed adequately in the US. Practically everyone I know is dealing with some consequence of long COVID and we’re totally behind on vaccination because the issue was so politicized. If you look at this, what’s still going on at the border (a fucking racist wall to keep a certain ethnicity out), human rights being challenged EVERYWHERE and his climate policy it’s clear Biden doesn’t care all that much about things a leftist president should, at the very least.

Telodzrum,

I see you’re firmly in the “This guy isn’t giving me exactly everything I want so he’s shit!” camp. Cool.

Biden has quietly been the most leftist President in the country’s history, the most effective climate change President in the country’s history, and the most outspoken in support of historically marginalized communities.

He’s not perfect, but guess what no one is. And it turns out that enacting policy in line with the will of 80 million voters isn’t limited in scope to just what you’d like the President to do.

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

“most leftist president in our country’s history” Previous presidents have set real low standards, my dude. I’m glad he’s rescheduling pot too but he has not done enough to earn that title or people like you wasting your time on his behalf. He and the DNC ignored a HUGE progressive movement in this country to set him up to sleep through more debates next year. As long as the electoral college decides who’s president I don’t want to endorse either mainstream candidate more than direct action against a inhumane, unhinged, and disconnected government. Still crossing my fingers for a good green candidate, and I’ll probably vote that way, but rioting, purposeful vandalism and organization in equal, abundant measure are the only things that could give me real hope at this point. Wish I could have your optimism and confidence in authority, must be nice.

Maeve,

“ Biden has quietly been the most leftist President in the country’s history, the most effective climate change President in the country’s history, and the most outspoken in support of historically marginalized communities.”

What? He’s notably right, economically, in my memory, but I’m not his age yet. You…you do know people can be economically right and socially left, don’t you?

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Also, even if he were the most leftist president in the US^1 That doesn’t make him all that leftist if you look at the breadth of the political spectrum globally.


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Maeve,

The sheer amount of ostensibly unknowing fascist shills here is disheartening. Ostensibly being key. Psyops are real and governments only have to convince a few then they do the dirty work without an iota of self-probing. Thank you for being honest. It’s refreshing.

Cryophilia,

“This guy isn’t giving me exactly everything I want

immediately, can’t forget the immediately part.

These “leftists” in the comments here are just children throwing tantrums, they’re not real leftists, they’re not real anything. They don’t want real solutions, they want mommy and daddy to come in and magically fix all their problems.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

That’s probably because he is anything but leftist.

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah dude’s a staunch conservative by any reasonable metric, regardless of what the democrats want everyone to think.

K1nsey6,
@K1nsey6@lemmy.world avatar

Most of his policies were too far right for even Reagan. But we are not supposed to talk about Biden’s history prior to 2019.

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

People fail to acknowledge he was Obama’s VP, too. Nobody wants to admit he’s at least partly the reason Trump gained enough traction to come into office at all in the first place.

K1nsey6,
@K1nsey6@lemmy.world avatar

Trump is Obama’s legacy, had he not turned it on the typical neolib POS the party wouldn’t have lost

JustAManOnAToilet,

He’s leftist, you’re just way out in looney toon land.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

Lol sorry no. It’s a result of the Overton window shifting so far right in the US that now some people think anti-labor (e.g., response to train worker strike) is somehow leftist. If you have a more complete understanding of the political spectrum you know better.

HarkMahlberg,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

Regardless, it was never addressed adequately in the US.

A problem created by Trump.

(1) we’re totally behind on vaccination because (2) the issue was so politicized

Both problems created by Trump.

what’s still going on at the border

A problem created by Trump and continued by Texas's state government.

human rights being challenged EVERYWHERE

There are more conservatives EVERYWHERE than there are President Bidens ANYWHERE.

and his climate policy

Won't disagree here, he could do a lot more here.

A lot of your complaints are problems created by conservatives and criminals, that Biden hasn't been able to fix. He's not a progressive superhero and he was never going to be. He's a janitor, and I don't see any productivity in getting mad at the guy holding a mop. Yeah, I would have loved Bernie or Warren too, but with the double whammy of first past the post voting and billionaire conservative power-brokers, Biden was always going to be better than the alternative.

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

He’s not trump, yeah yeah. Still doesn’t change the fact he has done a shit job as “janitor” and wasn’t anybody’s first choice except those that convienently ignore his past comments and actions as a individual (smelling little girls, defending segregation, joking about running over reporters, just vile career politician stuff all the way through) But regardless, that shouldn’t be his whole sell though, and it is. I wish I was wrong, but you really can’t deny it’s a super weak one.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

smelling little girls

I never got this criticism. It’s weird, but it doesn’t hurt anyone. It’s not sexually or physically abusive, it’s just an odd thing to do.

Chetzemoka,

Also fascinating to watch so many self-proclaimed "leftists" parrot Fox News talking points. I swear I think some of these people want the fascists to win so they can get their chance to cosplay revolutionary.

Zero acknowledgement that every revolution in history has violently decimated the working class and only replaced one power hierarchy with another. Oh, but their revolution is gonna be totally different...

HarkMahlberg,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

You never got the criticism because it was not actual criticism, it was a malicious meme generated and amplified by the alt right to smear Biden.

I'm literally going to start at the Know Your Meme page and look up the people in the Spread section:

On February 17th, 2015, Redditor gaylord__focker uploaded a photograph of Biden whispering into the ear of Stephanie Carter

https://old.reddit.com/user/gaylord__focker/ (troll)

On February 18th, Redditor Bossman1086 posted a gif of the moment to /r/gifs.

https://old.reddit.com/user/Bossman1086/?sort=controversial (libertarian)

On November 22nd, 2017, YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson uploaded a video titled "Creepy Uncle Joe,"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson (the entire Wikipedia intro)

K1nsey6,
@K1nsey6@lemmy.world avatar

As an actual leftist, I can say with a great deal of authority that Biden is NOT a leftist President. He’s very much capitalist, like Trump

MonkCanatella,

did you even read the article you linked? kind garbage is “well ackshyually, it’s endemic so the pandemic is over!” that doesn’t mean that covid isn’t a real threat. That’s the stupidest fucking argument you could have possibly made. Know what else is endemic? AIDS. Hepatitis. Malaria. Tuberculosis. Fucking Polio. Changing status from pandemic to epidemic doesn’t magically make it affect less people. It’s really heartless tbh

GBU_28,

Threat is not what is being discussed. Pandemic status is

MonkCanatella,

the original poster is arguing about the administrations response to the pandemic being at best, poorly managed, choosing the stock market over human lives. The dipshit who said “well technically a pandemix isn’t an epidemic” charged in and tried to chagne the conversation to one of fucking etymology. That’s not the point at all. They’re not pissed because of etymology, they’re pissed because the administration could have done A LOT more but CHOSE not to, because stock market

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

When did Biden say that COVID isn’t a real threat?

MonkCanatella,

Are you replying to the right commend friend? I didn’t say he said that.

Chetzemoka,

And we...have treatments and/or vaccines and public health campaigns for all of those endemic infections just like we will continue to do for Covid?

I'm not sure why you think endemic is a judgement of risk. It's not. It's an epidemiological definition.

MonkCanatella,

I’m not even remotely arguing about the semantics of epidemiology, I’m arguing that it’s heartless to argue pedantic shit like that when it’s clearly still affecting people and still needs to be taken seriously, which the original poster is pointing out, and correctly so, that it’s not. The administration pushed for business as usual, choosing the stock market over peoples’ health. And you’re over here injecting that "well technically the word pandemic comes from the greek word pan. NO, that’s not what’s being discussed here at all

Chetzemoka,

Except no one pushed for business as usual? Quarantines and higher level pandemic interventions are not appropriate for an endemic infection. We should be vaccinating and masking when there's an increase in Covid infections. But we should also be doing that for influenza and we don't.

I'm not arguing semantics. Pandemic vs. endemic is a factual epidemiological definition. The problem is that we routinely choose not to deal with dangerous endemic infections like influenza. We should always have been doing more.

GBU_28,

Are you aware that a pandemic is a type of disease situation and not a disease itself?

MonkCanatella,

did you know they’re not starting a discussion of etymology, but about the actual administration’s response to the disease? Here’s Biden’s quote from that articles btw "but the pandemic is over. If you notice, no one’s wearing masks. Everybody seems to be in pretty good shape. And so, I think it’s changing.”

TimewornTraveler,

?

blanketswithsmallpox,
@blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

Just Republicans being themselves on the internet lmfao.

Cryophilia,

Just Republican Things.

Biden has simultaneously not done enough about Covid and has spent way too much time, effort, and money on what is clearly an overblown case of the sniffles, but is also a Chinese bioweapon.

It makes sense if you change the facts on a dime to suit the underlying narrative.

Doubleplus good

No_Eponym,
@No_Eponym@lemmy.ca avatar

Naw fam, they will just get medical treatment for the acute and long term consequences of the infection at a level that you can only dream of, a level that would bankrupt a normal person. But, hey, we’re all in this together. It’s time to move on. Have you considered getting a HELOC and buying something?

OldWoodFrame,

Public figures are so vulnerable to Covid, Bert Kreicher said he had it 5 times already. And especially people in national political life, everybody wants to meet you everywhere you go and you can’t refuse or wear a mask or anything or you get negative news coverage.

Wookie,
@Wookie@artemis.camp avatar

Bert Kreischer? I wouldn’t believe anything he says

chase_what_matters,

Bert doesn’t strike me as the hand-washing type, if I’m being honest.

sarcasticsunrise,

I’m surprised it’s only been 5 times Bert Kreischer has snorted Covid. That fake laughin comes with a deep inhale

Dangy,

Bart’s liver is hanging on by a thread.

GBU_28,

Bert fucks dogs and drinks at least a gallon of Kool aid a day, COVID doesn’t even need to try with him

intensely_human,

Man I thought both women and men were getting this the whole time. I was way off.

hotstove,

HA!

SuperRecording,

Maybe this is just the first woman who is hoity-toity enough to be called lady

KevonLooney,

Yeah, I know your mom’s had it lots of times. No one calls her “lady” though, for good reason.

antizero99,

Sure they do but it usually includes “of the night”.

SuperRecording,

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  • Lun0tic,

    What do you equate Trump’s hands to? I know you gotta have one ready cause you couldn’t have been that stupid to walk into it like this. It’s like you’re eating a bag of crispy turd chips and yelling that someone smells like shit.

    SuperRecording,

    Feed the troll and more show up 😂 Fuck off trumper

    intensely_human,

    You’re saying so far it’s just been the wenches and hags?

    AngryCommieKender,

    Maybe a few maidens as well. Though not Nichelle Nichols.

    ABCDE,

    Can someone explain this to me?

    Chetzemoka,

    If you remove the capital letters, "the first lady" got Covid could imply that only men have gotten it up to this point

    ABCDE,

    Ah, that makes sense now, thanks.

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