imPastaSyndrome,

Good

raik2,
@raik2@lemmy.world avatar

Can we tell that canada is a failed state?

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar
MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

[Lawyers for AHS] cited a national consensus statement — developed in November 2021 and subsequently accepted by all Canadian transplant programs — which found a 25-30 per cent mortality rate in patients infected with COVID post-organ transplant.

July 2022 - Court of King’s Bench, Justice Paul Belzil - “…subjecting clinical decisions to charter scrutiny would create “medical chaos,” with patients seeking “endless judicial review of clinical treatment decisions.””

November 2022 - Alberta Court of Appeals, Justices Frederica Schutz, Michelle Crighton and Dawn Pentelechuk - “Ms. Lewis’ COVID-19 vaccination status is not who she is,” the court wrote. “It is not an immutable personal characteristic … her choice not to get vaccinated against COVID-19 is just that — a choice.

June 2023 - Supreme Court of Canada - refused to hear appeal.

otter, (edited )
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

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rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

I can respect her. She was stupid, but hey, at least she was not a hypocrite. If there were more stupid people who weren’t hypocrites at the same time, life would be a little bit easier.

Snapz,

Woman chooses to die in favor of the comfort of stupidity.

GrindingGears,

Proud grad of the Medical School at the University of Facebook, I’m sure.

Wiz,

Is this the new location of /r/HermanCainAwards?

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Yes, and there are a few Facebook refugees here pushing their anti-reality nonsense.

JTode,

Transplants are incredibly strict about you not just wanting to live, but doing everything you can in order to live. It is good that the transplant went to someone with a sense of self-preservation. Utter waste on the likes of her.

Auli,

What’s so dumb is they require a ton of shots already, and she would have had to take anti rejection drugs after. Like what would one more have been.

Hangglide,

You can’t fix stupid.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

No, but stupid can fix itself.

triclops6,

This was very funny and I will steal it

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Please.

IvanOverdrive,

Freedom isn’t freedom from consequences

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Truth.

PostalDude,
@PostalDude@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

I’m sorry WTF!? Since when does not wanting to take a flu vaccine sign your death warrant?

Chinzon,

Not vaccinating against an infection puts you at dramatically increased risk of poor outcomes. When deciding who gets a lifesaving organ, you have to consider chance of success and the chance that person can follow through with the rigorous regimen for successful outcome. This is the same reason drug users are denied organs. This is nothing unusual or unethical. She can choose not to get vaccinated, and doctors will choose a more suitable recipient for the organ.

FarceMultiplier,
@FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca avatar

There is a very limited supply of organs. They need to give them to people who have the best chance of success and longevity.

LeFantome,

Why sentence somebody that wants to live to die ( by denying them a transplant ) so that the organ can be wasted on somebody making choices inconsistent with survival.

All transplants have waiting lists. Getting an organ probably means denying one to somebody else.

The headline should be “Idiot sacrifices their life opening a spot for somebody smarter to live”.

Natanael,

Organ transplant recipients have a weakened immune system for months to years afterwards, in large part due to immune suppressants taken to prevent organ rejection.

That does not go well with being unvaccinated in a pandemic. The vaccination gives you a fighting chance even with weakened immune system, but without you’re screwed.

papertowels,

Seems like it’s been that way for a while…

Transplant candidates must also receive the seasonal influenza and hepatitis B vaccines, follow other healthy behaviors, and demonstrate they can commit to taking the required medications following transplant.

Nevermind you trying to misrepresent the subject by saying it’s a flu vaccine.

BradleyUffner,

Since getting the flu will probably kill you with all the immunosuppressants you have to take for life in order to not reject the transplant. They didn’t want to waste the organ on an idiot who can’t follow simple rules when someone who wants to live could use it

YeetPics,
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

When a life saving transplant you need has prerequisites and you refuse to meet them, you have refused the life saving transplant.

Simple enough?

funkless_eck,

you can’t get a liver transplant if you continue to drink alcohol.

or lung if you smoke

freedom sometimes can’t be absolute, in perpetuity and without consequence.

Squirrel,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

Oh no! Anyway…

SamboT,

Nice comment

freeindv,

Shit like this is why I took myself off the organ donor list

Draedron,

Because they dont want to waste organs on people who have a low chance of surivical

freeindv,

They have a normal chance of “surivical”

Auzy, (edited )

No. Less

I have a friend who nearly died because of covid and she’s not immunocompromised.

Someone on immunosuppressants need all the help they can get

Furthermore, if someone is too stubborn to take the vaccine, then they clearly aren’t likely to follow directions provided by doctors after.

Or, they’ll read some stupid conspiracy theory which causes them to eventually switch treatment to one they read on tiktok like horse dewormers

PsychedSy,

Those of you seemingly celebrating need to slow down and take a look at yourself.

MapleEngineer, (edited )
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m not celebrating. I think it is an incredible fucking shame that a bunch of crushingly ignorant people were mislead by a very small group of people with a highly destructive agenda. She died because she believed lies, made it her entire identity, and couldn’t figure out how to change her position. She eat made to feel like a hero for standing up to “the man” and died a miserable, unnecessary death.

PsychedSy,

You’ve made some fairly empathetic comments in the thread, so don’t take it directly at you. I’m immunocompromised so I understand the risks. I still have space for compassion. This is a sad loss in convincing these people and we should be sorting out how to do better.

I will always refuse to dance on graves, and you should too.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

I always tell my kids that we don’t wish death on anyone and we don’t celebrate anyone’s death. This woman made petulance her entire identity and it cost her her life. She died for stupid political reasons and her children and her grandchildren and their families are all hurting. What a stupid, senseless hill to die on and for people who don’t give a shit about her or her family.

PsychedSy,

It’s an incredibly stupid thing to die for, for sure. It’d just be nice to see less celebration of death in the world and in the communities I interact with.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Part of it is the fact that these people were so condescending, so arrogant, so self-satisfied about their nonsense. They called us sheeple for following the recommendations of experts when they were lining up behind a dozen people writing obvious nonsense on obscure blogs and worshiping it like a religion. They quote made up facts and numbers. They abused and assaulted people who were just trying to do their jobs. They were truly the worst that humanity has to offer. So you can understand why there might be a bit of a sense of schadenfreude when one of the rides the crazy train into the ground.

Like I’ve said…I’m not celebrating her death. I think it’s a fucking tragedy that anyone is that stupid, that gullible, that arrogantly stubborn but it was her choice.

ineedaunion,

She got what she wanted. Post it everywhere.

Etterra,

Good. These people paid their nickel and took their chances. It’s not anyone else’s fault that they made a stupid bet. It’s no different than those whiners suing over their stupid NFTs being bad investments.

Trihilis,

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Imagine being the donor and your organ goes to someone like that. It’s like someone pissing on your grave (assuming the donor is dead or will die, article doesn’t mention the organ).

Also the comment section from that article, holy shit what a dumpster fire.

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