phoenixz,

United States is fifth.

Yeah, “best” is a rather vague metric, and in this case, simply bullshit

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m about to shake your world. Ready?

What you believe doesn’t change reality. Your feelings don’t matter.

Sorry.

ILikeBoobies,

Relevance?

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

You believe it’s bullshit.

What you believe doesn’t change reality. The report is as the report is, the metrics are all there, and whether you believe it or not makes absolutely zero difference.

ILikeBoobies,

If I find a rival study then will it no longer be true?

Best country Winner: South Africa Second: New Zealand Third: Maldives

What if we use the happiness index?

This has Canada third

I think you can see how it’s subjective even if you present the metrics that you used

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Not even close to the same metrics but if it makes your fee fees happy then you do you.

ILikeBoobies,

So what makes how you (USNews) weigh metrics the correct one?

ttmrichter,
@ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

It agrees with him, duh.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Sorry…you’ve bored me. There are YouTube videos calling to me.

lukini,
@lukini@beehaw.org avatar

Why are you being an ass for seemingly no reason?

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

I love Canada and know how good we have it. I don’t give two shits what a bunch of anti-Canadian propagandist trolls have to say.

lukini,
@lukini@beehaw.org avatar

None of it seems like trolls, but you do you.

MapleEngineer, (edited )
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Ah…the classic, “No you are!” gambit. Well played! Well played indeed.

Most of these people spreading the anti-Canadian hate are making a classic mistake of ego. “Canada is bad for me therefore Canada is bad.” It’s the same mistake that incels make. Some people have more than me so they are bad and the system is bad and the country is BAD.

EDIT: Brigades on Lemmy have no power. No one gives a shit about Karma here. You can’t silence voices you don’t like. Go ahead, downvote. No one fucking cares.

lukini,
@lukini@beehaw.org avatar

What? I’m not calling you a troll. That’s not what “you do you” means. I’m not attacking you and I’m quite confused.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Ah…I missed the last second “you”. My apologies.

I stand by the rest of my comments.

ttmrichter,
@ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

Unironic use of “fee fees”. Asshole spotted. Blocking protocol engaged.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Yay! You’ll never respond to anything else that I ever write!

GBU_28,

Fee fees? That’s Sarah Palin talk

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

I saw some right wing idiot say it and thought it was funny. A delicate snowflake blocked me so I won’t have to listen to his incessant whining about my comments anymore so I call that a win.

GBU_28,

“delicate snowflake” is Sean hannity speak

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Yup. They fucking hate it when you throw their bullshit back at them.

mindcruzer,

Hey the USA is a great place to live if you make good money. Not a great place to be poor though.

Grimpen,

Pretty much. Most of the best Universities in the world. That most of it’s citizens could never afford to attend. Many of the best Hospitals and specialty clinics in the world. That again most of it’s people can’t use.

Most American’s are somewhere in the middle, and I’m sure the median household has more disposable income than most other first world countries, it’s just that the prosperity is so unevenly spread.

Granted, some would speculate that it is because of the unevenness that the US is so prosperous, but I would dispute that. I think the US could go a long long ways towards helping it’s less fortunate without compromising it’s prosperity.

ParsnipWitch,
@ParsnipWitch@feddit.de avatar

Most of the best Universities in the world.

Not sure if the world agrees. You certainly have a lot of universities in the country. Also not sure about best hospitals…

cyberpunk007,

How does it compare to canada? I legit have no idea. I just remember reading in a thread like 2 days ago how an american person moved to canada and one of the main complaints was how pay was less and housing was way more.

mindcruzer,

House prices are much more reasonable in the USA. Obviously it’s a huge country and it depends where you want to live, but in comparison house prices in Canada make no sense whatsoever.

Culturally, very similar. There are subtle differences. Americans are louder and more confident in general I think. Also way more business oriented. People in general seem less healthy but the disparity with Canada isn’t that big anymore. Wealth disparity is though. Way more very poor people, way more really rich people. In Canada I’m a top 1% earner. In the USA I’m not really even close.

The obvious major difference from Canada is health insurance. If it’s not covered by your employer (92% of Americans have coverage last I checked), I hope you have some disposable income to pay to pay for health insurance. That being said, taxes are usually way lower depending on which state you’re in, so you very well might come out ahead, even with copay and deductible. For reference, I had a global health insurance plan with Cigna. It had 1 mil USD coverage and max out of pocket per year for me was like 3 k USD. That was 205 USD/month. This didn’t cover general doctors visits, or anything related to that. It was basically for visits to the emergency room. So if you’re looking for coverage at the same level as Canada, you’re going to be paying more. I have heard from numerous sources that the health care in the USA is way better than in Canada–as long as you can pay for it.

These are broad generalizations. USA is a very diverse place. Of all places I’ve been in the world, USA is the most similar to Canada, and Australia probably comes second.

mindcruzer,

I have been to a lot of first world countries for extended periods as a digital nomad. Canada is not even in the top 5 imo

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

What you believe doesn’t change reality.

mindcruzer,

What U.S. News believes doesn’t change reality either. These rankings are and always have been subjective BS

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Whatever you have to tell yourself, dude.

mudeth,

As a digital nomad, I’m guessing you would have been to relatively low CoL places like Bali, Thailand, maybe Eastern Europe or LatAm. You have to remember that your experience as someone from the global north, earning in a strong currency is very different from a local person there.

Not that i disagree with you that rankings are flawed but by the same token, Canada /is/ in the top 5 for many people from low standard-of-living countries

mindcruzer, (edited )

Typically you’d be right but as a DN I actually spent most of my time in North America and western Europe—mostly in countries people would compare Canada with (UK, France, Spain, Norway, Germany, USA, Australia, etc.). I never went to Asia or South America as a DN. Actually the only time I stepped foot in LatAm was in Panama for a month this past winter.

It really changed my perspective on Canada. I don’t think it’s a bad country at all but I don’t hold it in as high regard as I once did. Every country has its strengths and weaknesses. What those are is different for everyone. Canada is squandering immense potential in my opinion. If it wasn’t for family, there are several places in the USA I would consider living long term instead.

mudeth,

Fair!

nailbar,

Which one is your favorite county?

mindcruzer, (edited )

I’m not sure I really have a favourite. Every country has good and bad. There are some parts of the USA (ex. Colorado, Washington) that I really like. But also the USA has its own issues that we all know about. France is beautiful but there can be civil unrest, taxes are high, etc. I spent some time in Singapore and it’s very safe, clean, great food, but it’s also stale and far from a lot of places. Culture comes into play a lot. I can recognize that somewhere is a great place to live but it’s not for me. I didn’t grow up there, I don’t speak the language, etc. In Europe I feel most “at home” in the Netherlands.

Different things matter to different people. So saying things like “this country is #2” are meaningless. Countries I personally would rank above Canada: USA, Netherlands, Norway, Australia, New Zealand.

CanadaPlus, (edited )

as a digital nomad

I don’t know how they measured this at US News either, but the digital nomad experience is pretty different from the local experience. By digital nomad standards certain third world cities are great.

Echo71Niner,

Fuck right off, Canada is nowhere in top 10.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Did everyone from Hexbear and Lemmygrad move to lemm.ee? I notice that that’s where most of the anti-Canadian hate is coming from. Was there a brigade message sent out or is this just organic?

Echo71Niner,

you sound like you live in paranoiasville.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Gaslighting

Does that ever work or do most or just laugh at you?

Echo71Niner,

I’m not the fucking moron who is making assumption, you are.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

At least I didn’t try to gaslight anyone. That’s just sad.

BCsven,

That dude is an asshole, but it is not gaslighting. people try to apply gaslighting to everytype of conflict now. Gaslighting would be them saying you formerly told them you lived in Paranoiaville and now you are denying it. it is when somebody actively tries to twist your memory, not just contradict you , or be sarcastic or condescending.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Gaslighting is the act of trying to convince someone that they are crazy. In its simplest form telling someone who is not crazy that they are crazy is gaslighting.

BCsven,

No, it has to be a repeated effort with manipulation to convince you are, not a rando making a sarcastic insult. If you question where you live by them saying paranoiaville is your home town then you have another issue, as you know exactly where you live, and also know they are making a sarcastic comment on you being paranoid.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Myriam Webster says that it can include questioning your mental health. A single instance is just the first of several.

You may be right, though. It doesn’t matter in the end, the commenter was just an ass.

BCsven,

Oh they were a total dick.

CanadaPlus,

Source? I’m guessing you haven’t recently lived as an average person both inside and outside of Canada.

ryanpdg1,

I didn’t actually read this… because I’m actually supposed to be working right now. After a bit of digging i found their methodology. someone want to look it over and see how legitimate it is? www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/…/methodology

CanadaPlus,

Mission accepted.

Edit: Nevermind, they block me. :(

villasv, (edited )

A set of 73 country attributes

an online survey […] total of 17,195 individuals from 36 countries. Of the respondents, 8,267 were informed elites, 4,622 were business decision-makers and 7,402 were considered general public (43%). Survey participants were given a random subset of countries and country attributes to consider: about half of the attributes for roughly a third of the countries.

Participants assessed whether they associated an attribute with a nation. The more a country was perceived to exemplify a certain characteristic in relation to the average, the higher that country’s attribute score.

Attributes were grouped into 10 thematic subrankings. Subranking scores for each country were determined by averaging the scores that country received in each of the attributes comprising that subranking.

To determine the weight each subranking score had in the overall Best Countries score, using correlation with GDP(PPP) […] a stronger relationship weighted more heavily: Entrepreneurship (14.13%), Quality of Life (14.12%), Agility (14.02%), Social Purpose (12.83%), Movers (11.54%), Cultural Influence (10.44%), Open for Business (9.43%), Adventure (5.37%), Power (5.00%), Heritage (3.13%).

The math sounds alright. My main gripe would be that it’s survey-based (so highly affected by biased perceptions) and that an attribute impact in the overall ranking is dictated by its correlation with wealth, which is kinda arbitrary - and bleak. Great things like “friendly, fun, good for tourism, pleasant climate, scenic” (Adventure) and “culturally accessible, has a rich history, has great food, many cultural attractions, many geographical attractions” (Heritage) are heavily discounted.

To be honest, the only category of attributes I care about in this methodology are in the realm of Quality of Life (Canada #3), but I still find it wildly arbitrary that “good job market” is QoL but things like “pleasant climate” and “good food” are not. Anyway, the top 20 in QoL are the usual suspects, so I don’t really care about minor changes in relative position between these - lol at US .

kugmo,
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

The big Canadian cities are terrible

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

They’re among the safest, cleanest cities in the world.

Anticorp,

Well thanks for explaining why!

villasv,

I could not stand living in a small NA city lol, it’s Vancouver, Toronto, Monteral or leaving the Americas altogether

cyberpunk007,

How?

“Welcome to Canada! I’m sorry, are you not a millionaire? Then you can live on the streets.”

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

That makes me really depressed about the world

frontporchtreat,

I was thinking Canada was going down the tube for years and then I left vancouver to go to a smaller city. I just don’t see the point of struggling every single day just to have some temperate weather and nice mountains in the background. Even if I liked skiing or hiking I didn’t have the time or money to reap the benefits of that city. In 2 years since I left I have bought a house, with a yard for my dog. sure the Prarie winters are hard but at least I’m saving for my future. my advice to anyone who is barely making it by those large city centre, go somewhere that will value your effort and provide the opportunity for you to be happy. It’s not as scary as you would think.

MapleEngineer,
@MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca avatar

Very positive message.

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