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wildn0x, in The Coup of /r/AssholeDesign

I always thought a subreddit was created and if the creator stepped down, they could decide to hand it over or nuke it, similar to a discord server or something. Never realized the “I made this” meme was reddit in a nutshell. I’d be pissed if some of the communities I’ve spent years building got handed off to someone else without my say.

SpaceNoodle,

“You’ll own nothing, and you’ll like it.”

catwhowalksbyhimself,

I once made a sub, and no one joined it. I then found out that you can’t shut one down. Every. You can abandon it, and reddit will hand it over to the first person who asks for it, but once a sub is open it can never, ever be closed.

You can hand it over though. Or at least, that is how things used to go.

Drunemeton,
@Drunemeton@lemmy.world avatar

Still true!

My one gift to humanity was r/dndcats and it’ll last as long as reddit does.

😂🤣😂

gingernate,

Star a dndcats Lemmy community hahaha

Drunemeton,
@Drunemeton@lemmy.world avatar

I just don’t have time to moderate 3 posts in 8 years. Live/Work balance being what it is…

My first post was a great photo of a cat behind a DM screen. So I asked the poster if I could use it as a banner image. She wanted to be made a full admin or no.

So no, and it went downhill from there.

thawed_caveman,

There’s a hack for this: remove all mods including yourself, subreddit is now unmoderated, report the unmoderated sub to admins, they nuke it. However the name won’t be available again.

catwhowalksbyhimself,

Tried that. It didn’t take. Even though I tired remove myself, I was put back on somehow.

And the unmoderated sub can be picked back up by anyone who requests it. It’s how a lot of old porn subs got turned into subs about cats.

DevouredChaos, in YouTube tests restricting ad blocker users to 3 video views

So the old cat and mouse game continues!

pglpm, in YouTube tests restricting ad blocker users to 3 video views
@pglpm@lemmy.world avatar

Time to switch to PeerTube or similar federate platform soon then…

Showroom7561, in Nice try Google

Or switch to Firefox 😁

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

i would recommend librewolf, which is forked from firefox

Showroom7561,

I use both, but I found that librewolf wasn’t working well with Adblock for Windows, so it’s not my daily driver.

darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

i see. i havent had any problems (linux) but idk

Showroom7561, in This is the entrance to the cafeteria in a US school. Absolute fuck you to the students if you ask me.

Are you sure that isn’t a museum of medieval torture devices? 😲

Fleppensteijn, in YouTube tests restricting ad blocker users to 3 video views
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

Apparently they need to ask for consent before detecting whether you have an adblocker, according to EU law. I assume you’d be safe when you use a plugin like Consentomatic or I don’t care about cookies and you just don’t log in to Google.

kennismigrant,

ask for consent before detecting whether you have an adblocker, according to EU law

do you have any reference for this?

Fleppensteijn,
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar
312, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

Why would it be two buttons on the right, and what behavior would you expect if “Cancel Anytime” was a button?

The goal of this is to get you to sign up for Prime, so there’s nothing yet to cancel.

This is “annoying” design in the sense that getting an upsell is annoying, but I don’t really see it as malicious/asshole.

Sami,
@Sami@lemmy.zip avatar

It’s absolutely, 100% intentionally misleading. They even recognize that internally and are currently being sued for just that.

In a complaint filed in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington, the agency accused Amazon of using deceptive designs, known as “dark patterns,” to deceive consumers into enrolling in Prime, which provides subscribers with perks such as faster shipping for an fee of $139 annually, or $14.99 a month.

The FTC said Amazon made it difficult for customers to purchase an item without also subscribing to Prime. In some cases, consumers were presented with a button to complete their transactions — which didn’t clearly state it would also enroll them in Prime.

Getting out of a subscription was often too complicated, and Amazon leadership slowed or rejected changes that would have made canceling easier, the complaint said.

Internally, Amazon called the process “Iliad,” a reference to the ancient Greek poem about lengthy siege of Troy during the Trojan war.

…citynews.ca/…/amazon-prime-without-consent/

312,

The examples in the FTC complaint are all well and good, and as I already said, Amazon sucks and their predatory practices are well-known, but this specific example, the one we’re talking about on this post, is pretty pedestrian.

If the OP were to post the 7-step process it takes to cancel a prime membership, that would be firmly and wholly in asshole design territory, I know, I’ve had to go through it myself. But just posting a screenshot of a mild upsell that has a clear set of binary options on opposite sides of the screen and saying “Amazon bad” doesn’t really contribute much - everyone knows Amazon sucks, and there are plenty of examples of them sucking, this just really isn’t a very good one.

dm21,

On a quick inspection the left barely looks like it’s worth reading and it’s easy to miss the link, so you’re led to thinking there’s a yes and a no button on the right. Click the no button and you’ve subscribed to Prime.

Obviously if you stop and actually look at everything you’ll realise what’s up. But this relies on you rushing and being misled in to signing up, which clearly works for them.

Cevilia, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.
@Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I downloaded the Amazon app a while back. The first message that popped up with a “join prime” screen. I very nearly tapped the join button because it was the only button on the screen and I wasn’t paying attention - I had to scroll to find the “maybe later” button. They seem to love their hostile UI.

Tenthrow, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

Dark patterns are real and everywhere now.

daniskarma, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

I’m pretty sure that’s illegal in the EU.

dragnet, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

I don’t understand why there is so much defense for this in the comments. Amazon is a huge company with professional design teams, if part of their checkout process is even a little misleading in favor of an upsell it is definitely intentional.

312,

Saying it’s a weak example of asshole design does not equate to defending Amazon.

It’s possible for Amazon to be extremely predatory and shitty, as well as this not being a very good example of how shitty they are, at the same time.

dragnet,

Possible yes, but does that really seem like reality to you in this situation? It doesn’t to me.

Uriel238,
@Uriel238@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

Yes. That’s Amazon using dark patterns. This demonstrates that enshittification is not confined to social media.

Ooop, it may have happened even before Twitter, Reddit etc.

From Corey Doctorow: Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if Amazon’s enshittification is because [Jeff] Bezos was a cynic or because he sold out. Once Amazon could make more money by screwing its customers, that screw-job became a fait accompli.

Iohannes99,
schmonie, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

Idk just because you made a mistake doesn’t mean it should be illegal. In the grand scheme of shady marketing this really isn’t that bad…

DreamlandLividity, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

By the way, it is and amazon is already being sued by the US FTC.

GatoB,

With a small fine with huge benefits as always?

DreamlandLividity,

TBD, but I would not be suprised. As an aside, I did not see any such shenenigans when buying from Amazon most likely because EU tends to be more liberal with the fines.

lagomorphlecture,

Internally they called cancellations the Iliad Process. If that isn’t a sign that everything is super totally above board I don’t know what is.

jonne, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

I accidentally signed up for prime that way, and it was a pain to cancel. This shit should definitely be illegal.

zepheriths, in Amazon Checkout. This should be illegal.

Being illiterate?

PectoralisInspector,

Yet somehow you were still able to type two words. Clap, clap

We get what they’re talking about: default selection being a subscription rather than just buying the item like you originally asked. Shady practice at best.

zepheriths,

People read left to right correct? If you read correctly the first option you see is not to get prime. My point is the poster for some reason thought cancel anytime somehow meant that was the button to press…

520,

However, the Prime option is deliberately colourful and placed next to the grey no-Prime option so the Prime option is the first thing you see. Then maybe you look back and see 'oh there's an option to continue without Prime'.

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