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ThatOneDudeFromOhio, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

I bet the maintenance guide says to use a funnel or something ¯*(ツ)*/¯

collegefurtrader,

Quote: yeah, let’s blame the user for not fixing the manufacturer’s shitty design

luthis,
The_Mantis, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

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  • netburnr,
    @netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

    Changing oil hot or at least pretty warm is preferred, gets all the junk to settle in the pan

    The_Mantis,

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  • root,

    The manual for this bike specifically says to do it at “operating temperature”

    regulatorg, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    What's the big deal just spray some degreaser on it then take it for a big rip

    blindbunny, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    Super duke is like this too I just put aluminum foil over the exhaust.

    intensely_human,

    What does that do?

    blindbunny,

    Keeps oil from getting on the exhaust.

    CADmonkey, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    The engineering team that designed the engine never communicated with the engineering team that designed the motorcycle.

    wibo, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!
    @wibo@lemmy.world avatar

    But they saved so much money by having it this short!!!

    Hazdaz,

    If they made the spout longer, people would complain that they hit it with their shoes while riding. Or complain that it limits their ability to put on aftermarket pipes. Or some other issue that might be caused by it being longer. It is all about trade-offs.

    Of all the options, I think dealing with a little oil on the pipes every 3000 miles or so is reasonable, especially since a piece of tin foil would solve the problem.

    shadesdk, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    A lot of bad can be said about Harleys but I love that my 48 just has a little rubber hose with a plug in it to drain the oil.

    fluke,

    I assumed that it just fell out the engine naturally.

    shadesdk,

    Older ones for sure. Won’t even have a drain plug.

    fluke,

    As long as you remember to top up every trip to the pump then at least you can be confident in always having clean oil!

    TomMasz, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!
    @TomMasz@kbin.social avatar

    I had an '85 Dodge Omni GLH (turbo) where that had the oil drain plug directly over a cross member. I don't know if that was standard in the Omni or added for the GLH but when you drained the oil it just went everywhere. My oil drain pan wasn't big enough to catch it all. I stopped doing my own oil changes on that car.

    luthis,

    Wow that sounds like a real fun time.

    madcaesar, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    The entire comment section seems to be missing this is assholedesign and offering the same shitty solutions without addressing the asshole design…

    PlasmaDistortion,

    Honestly they sound like asshole engineers trying to justify their poor quality of work. Cardboard, tinfoil, and brake cleaner can’t excuse a poor design.

    zaph,
    @zaph@lemmy.world avatar

    At least the foil idea was someone who has to deal with a similar problem on a different bike.

    Kecessa,

    Make the exhaust curve back a bit? More expensive to make the part than having a straight pipe with just one bend.

    Dent the exhaust? Affect flow, create hot spot right under the oil drain plug.

    Expect people to be intelligent enough to put some cardboard or foil under the plug so they don’t spill oil on the exhaust? Idiots are complaining and posting their failure on the internet and blaming you.

    numlok,

    Extend the length of the drain plug by 1cm? Something something, profit.

    Kecessa, (edited )

    I personally don’t want any part of the engine casing sticking out during a crash, but maybe that’s just me.

    This section isn’t on an easy to replace cover.

    numlok,

    You can plainly see that there’s plenty of other material sticking out much further than any 1cm extension. If you were in a crash that ate through all that material first, I’m sure the engine casing would be the least of your worries.

    whatisallthis,

    The operating procedure of the internet

    1. Scan feed
    2. Find post where I can ridicule OP in some way
    3. Engage
    DietBajaBlast,

    Does Lemmy have a “just rolled into the shop”? I would join instantly.

    TheMightyCanuck,

    Bump cause I’m also interested

    ma11en,
    TweetyDaBird,

    No, this is not asshole design. If the oil port was sticking further out, it’s gets knocked off if you lay the bike down. And then you have no oil at all, and a blown up motor.

    It’s by good design the oil port is recessed. Yes it’s annoying to use a funnel, but it’s the preferable option.

    Pyr_Pressure,

    ?? Oil port would only need to be extended by like 0.5" to clear that exhaust pipe, the casing to the left extends probably 1-2" from that. If you lay the bike down it that casing would stop the oil port from being touched. Shouldn’t be an issue.

    maynarkh, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    I’m not a motorbike person, but couldn’t they sell a 50 cent plastic thingy you could screw on instead of the cap that would make it go into some container even?

    Peppycito,

    That’s just asshole design with extra asshole.

    thepianistfroggollum,

    Plastic would be a bad idea, but there’s a company called Fumoto that makes a ball valve replacement for the drain pan plug that has a hose barb on the end.

    I can’t recommend them enough.

    Auk, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    My Funduro does the same thing, but right at the header so if you get any oil at all on the pipe you get a nice cloud of smoke upon firing the bike up.

    I still prefer dealing with that though over how my WR400 makes you take the header section off in order to change the oil filter. That gets more annoying - particularly as that's something one has to do pretty regularly on that bike.

    luthis,

    Makes me appreciate how easy oil changes were on my Ninja

    Fluffy_Ruffs, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    Next time just rotate the bike 90° so the oil drains straight out and misses the exhaust. Problem solved!

    4am,

    Yeah my first though as well is the bike is probably supposed to be tipped when draining?

    Resistentialism,

    Tipping it over could cause a drop, which could be costly to replace. And if you’re just holding it to one side. You’d need a second person to either hold it, or take the plug out.

    Red_October,

    Alternatively redirecting gravity by 90° would also solve the problem, without the difficulty of needing to reposition the bite.

    luthis,

    Actually this sounds like an even better solution, I’ll let you know how it goes.

    luthis,

    O

    luthis,

    Oh fuck, it’s so simple! Thanks man, this is the correct answer.

    stealthnerd, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    It’s most likely set back to keep it protected. A bit annoying but probably better than having it stick out and be exposed.

    Aasikki, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    Don’t really see the asshole here… Mildly annoying maybe.

    Kecessa, in Oil draining over the hot exhaust? Sounds good guys, let's sign it off and start production!

    All this mess could have been prevented with a little bit of cardboard between the drain and the exhaust, you realise that I hope.

    luthis,

    Smoldering cardboard doesn’t sound like a good idea.

    Kecessa,

    Good luck lighting cardboard on fire with an exhaust

    luthis,

    All fire needs is heat, oxygen, and fuel. You’ve got all of that there.

    The exhaust gets hot enough to burn off oil when it’s idling, so I’m sure it’s hot enough to burn cardboard.

    I’m not going to risk it, the tinfoil idea sounds like the goer here.

    Kecessa,

    Are you doing your oil change with the engine running or something?

    No, it won’t make cardboard catch on fire, just like the oil on it won’t catch on fire if you left it there.

    ScreamingFirehawk,

    You don’t normally change oil with the engine running

    intensely_human,

    I’m talking about the sparklers I’m using for illumination

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