The new Moderna vaccine kicking anyone else's ass?

Up until now, I’ve only gotten the Pfizer vaccines. And while I’ve reacted to them, it was never particularly bad. Light muscle aches and some fatigue were basically it. Worst was the second one - I could feel my hair follicles and eyelids with that one.

But the Moderna one seems to be quite the beast.

When I found out I could get the new Moderna, I was excited, since I’ve heard that mix-and-match is probably the strongest immunity you can get. And I figured it wasn’t going to be that bad when after several hours, I only had some light fatigue.

But today has been awful. Consistent fever around 102.3, chills, headache, nausea, whole-body aches, and ludicrous levels of exhaustion. I’ve been utterly useless.

Is this what Moderna vaccines have been like all along? I’ll take it over contracting COVID-19, definitely… but ouch. It’s hurting me plenty.

Next morning update: Chills are gone, fever seems to be gone, muscle aches aren’t entirely gone, but they’re fading. All in all, 10/10 would feel like shit for a day again to help stop the spread of a dangerous disease.

Drusas,

Guess I've been lucky. The first vaccine I got (which was Pfizer) made me a bit sick for a couple of days with a brutally sore arm. Since then, every booster I've gotten (Pfizer and Moderna) has just given me a sore arm for a few days. I usually get cold-like symptoms after I get a flu shot, so I guess the Covid shots aren't as hard on me somehow.

baruchin,
@baruchin@lemmy.world avatar

It’s well known Moderna boosters to have the most side effects like the ones you describe. I hope you’re doing okay, now.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Much, much better today. Like a switch was flipped. Basically feeling fine.

mojo,

I really just get muscle ache and chills really bad. It lasts a day or two for me at most. What’s weird is when I got my last booster of Pfizer a few months ago, I got a dtap (the giga vaccine) in both my arms at the same time and had zero sickness the next day lol. Then I took the flu vaccine and still got sick a few weeks later so I feel scammed.

Also just remember, the covid vaccine doesn’t stop the spread, that is misinformation. It greatly improved your immunization towards it so you don’t get nearly as sick.

kescusay,
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Also just remember, the covid vaccine doesn’t stop the spread, that is misinformation. It greatly improved your immunization towards it so you don’t get nearly as sick.

It doesn’t stop the spread, but it reduces it. If you are infected when vaccinated, your illness will likely be much shorter, which means much less time during which you’re contagious. So the vaccines are still very important for slowing down the virus, even if you aren’t guaranteed full immunity.

Very_Bad_Janet,

So interesting to hear all of the individual reactions. I had the Pfizer primary series - the first shot was rough but the second shot, and the Moderna booster I had later, only caused some arm pain.

I just had my fourth shot, the Moderna Spikefax, along with the flu shot at the same time. Caused malaise overnight and pain in the COVID shot location for 3 days.

Whatever pain and inconvenience the vaccine shots cause it's nothing like having COVID. Ask me how I know.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Ask me how I know.

I’m going to take a wild guess here: You or people you know have had COVID and it sucks donkey balls?

Icarus512,

Don’t think I had any fever today but definitely fatigued, sore, body aches, and chills last night (vaccinated yesterday + flu). Had moderna for shots 1 & 2, and Pfizer for 3 (no real side effects I can remember). Wasn’t expecting to have any side effects since they were very mild after booster 2, but definitely was wrong. Wanted to try Novavax but don’t think it’s been approved yet and didn’t want to wait any longer

lemming007,

Yes!!! It’s a great vaccine, I’ll keep supporting our great pharmaceutical companies and happily inject myself with anything they produce. They have a great track record. Fuck those antivaxxers, they don’t know what’s good for them.

kescusay,
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MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Moderna was the easiest on me - did not feel a thing, not even a shoulder pain. I guess this is individual.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the sense I’m getting, yeah. Some people are saying Pfizer is the one that really knocked them out and Moderna never did. Guess I’m just the reverse. Oh well, I do feel a lot better this morning at least.

RealM,
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Actually the old Moderna was having such a harsh reaction on younger people, Germany changed their recommendations to not allow anyone younger than 60 to get moderna.

I also had Moderna back then once and can only confirm, it knocked me completely out for a whole day with harsh fever like symptoms, really wasn't fun.

Haven't really been vaccinated for a year now, so can't talk about the new moderna.

fubo,

Yep, did that this past weekend. Not a whole hell of a lot of fun. Advil helps a lot with the fever and chills.

maniacal_gaff,

I got the latest Pfizer and it knocked me out for about a day. Extreme fatigue, chills, and sore muscles all over kicked in about 10 hours after the shot, lasted about 6 hours, and then I slept after that.

Jackthelad,

Making yourself more ill with side effects from the vaccine than you would likely get if you caught Covid.

“I’d rather have it than Covid though”. Why? 🤷

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Because I’m definitely not more ill than I would be from COVID-19, and I’m unlikely to accidentally kill anyone by spreading a vaccine to them.

Jackthelad,

How do you know that? I’ve had Covid twice and it was nothing like the symptoms you’re describing there.

None of us know how Covid would affect us. But in 99% (probably more than that) of us, it’s no worse than a cold or mild flu. Automatically thinking that you’re going to end up in hospital is silly.

effward,
@effward@kbin.social avatar

Easy to get COVID twice when you take no precautions.

You are the problem.

Jackthelad,

Twice in three years is “not taking precautions”? 😂

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Since you put so much stock in personal anecdotes, I’ve had it zero times in three years, so clearly my precautions are superior to yours, and there is zero possibility that I’ve gotten lucky in any way.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve had Covid twice

You are the reason this is still happening, then.

Automatically thinking that you’re going to end up in hospital is silly.

What part of “other people exist” is unclear? I get vaccinated so I’m unlikely to be a vector for spreading the virus to people who’d die from it due to pre-existing conditions or age.

Jackthelad,

Do you know who I caught Covid off the first time? My step-dad, who had been vaccinated twice.

It doesn’t stop you spreading it Covid, but keep pretending it does if it makes you feel better.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

You know what? You’re right, getting vaccinated doesn’t make it impossible to catch and spread a disease. What it does is reduce the possibility, and reduce the severity and duration if you do catch it. What you’re doing is applying your personal experience - an anecdote - to everyone.

No vaccine ever has been 100% effective. Not even the smallpox vaccine. 100% effectiveness isn’t possible. You happened to catch it from a vaccinated person. It happens. Doesn’t mean being vaccinated didn’t reduce the severity of your step-father’s illness or the duration of his contagiousness. It almost certainly did both.

Jackthelad,

People I know who have been vaccinated and then caught Covid have had it worse than me and are in the same age group.

They all say “glad I got vaccinated, otherwise it would have been worse”. Based on what, exactly? Hope?

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Based on the science, not on anecdotes.

www.cnn.com/2022/10/24/health/…/index.html

Stop mistaking your personal experience for everyone’s personal experience.

Bluetreefrog,

It’s a common mistake to believe that our personal experiences are typical. It even has a name, the Availability Heuristic. Some use the term anecdote.

But when making decisions about things like whether to vaccinate or not vaccinate, it’s important to look at probabilities. And to do that we have to look at what happens to large groups of people. Thankfully, this has been done. Various studies have been conducted which looked at large groups of people, literally millions in some cases and their conclusions have remained consistent.

They are that the vaccine has some risks, but they generally are mild. But more importantly, the risks of the vaccine are lower than the risks from getting Covid.

That doesn’t mean that everyone who gets vaccinated won’t have a side effect, or that everyone who isn’t vaccinated will suffer be injured by Covid, but it does mean that, on average, you are far better to be vaccinated than unvaccinated.

I can link to some of the studies if you like.

Jackthelad,

That doesn’t mean that everyone who gets vaccinated won’t have a side effect, or that everyone who isn’t vaccinated will suffer be injured by Covid, but it does mean that, on average, you are far better to be vaccinated than unvaccinated.

If you’re in an at-risk group, yes. But you don’t need to be vaccinated if you’re under-60 and healthy, because the vaccines only protect you, not anyone else as you can still pass it on. So the whole period with vaccine passports and other nonsense was stupid, harmed the cause of getting people vaccinated and led to increased scepticism of vaccines in general.

Bluetreefrog,

If you’re in an at-risk group, yes. But you don’t need to be vaccinated if you’re under-60 and healthy, because the vaccines only protect you, not anyone else as you can still pass it on. So the whole period with vaccine passports and other nonsense was stupid, harmed the cause of getting people vaccinated and led to increased scepticism of vaccines in general.

What you seem to be saying here is that if you are under 60 vaccines aren’t worth the risk to you personally, and that they don’t stop transmission thereby failing to remove a risk to others over 60. Tell me if I got that wrong.

Assuming that I didn’t, let’s unpick that:

If you’re in an at-risk group, yes. But you don’t need to be vaccinated if you’re under-60 and healthy,

It is correct that the risks of Covid to younger people are less than older people, but they are not zero. Your statement implies that it is only older people who are at risk, which is not correct. Vaccines still reduce the risk for younger people too:

“Among hospitalized adolescent patients, two doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine were highly effective against Covid-19–related hospitalization and ICU admission or the receipt of life support.” www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2117995

In fact, while younger people are less likely to suffer severe adverse symptoms from Covid, vaccination actually has a GREATER protective effect for young people against potential severe consequences . i.e. the consequences are mitigated more for young people than older people.

“We found a substantial effect of age on the results. Many HRs in younger individuals (<60 years-old) were in general lower (i.e. favouring vaccination even more) for outcomes significantly associated with vaccination” www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0889159122001118

as you can still pass it on

The r value for vaccinated people is lower than for unvaccinated people. That is, a vaccinated person with Covid will expose less people to Covid than an unvaccinated person will, which is safer for everyone else.

So in conclusion, vaccination does reduce the risks of Covid injury in people under 60 (as well as those over 60), and does reduce the rate of transmission.

When it comes to complex issues like this, the only sources of information that should be considered can best be found on Google Scholar.

ryannathans,

Maybe you actually caught something while getting your vaccine

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t think so. Just slept off the worst of it and I’m feeling a lot better this morning.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer,

Happened to me. After my 2nd booster I felt really crappy for 3-4 days. Got tested at a clinic and was positive for the flu.

morphballganon,

Each of mine has been Pfizer but the stories I’ve heard about Moderna are consistent with yours

phoneymouse,

Moderna does this to me every time. Usually I take a long nap and then feel better.

Dagamant,

Happened to me, got worse each booster. The initial shot had me feeling kinda drained for a day or two, second made me feel like I had a cold, third made me feel like I had the flu really bad. I haven’t gotten the most recent one yet because of how bad the last one was. All were Moderna.

kescusay,
@kescusay@lemmy.world avatar

Might be time to try the Pfizer one.

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