reverendsteveii,

Honestly? I think that what happened is some weird fucker who was on the radar of at least two TLA agencies was local when someone shot the president and both of those agencies immediately went “we can never let anyone found out how utterly incompetent we are, we need to cause enough smoke, dust and bullshit that even if someone reaches the right conclusion about what happened everyone else will have plenty of reason to disbelieve it.” I think they executed the easiest coverup in the world because part of their goal was to make sure everyone knew there was a coverup, just not what they were covering up or on behalf of whom. Was Oswald a patsy? Maybe. If he wasn’t he made a lot of really bad decisions in the moment leading up to the first shot being fired, then redeemed himself with some shooting that was so heroically accurate and well-drilled that it bordered on impossible with the gear and positioning he had. Did a bunch of people panic and start trying to ratfuck the investigation? Absolutely. Will they wait until everyone involved’s great grandchildren are in the dirt before they tell us one honest word about this? Also yes.

Iustitia,
@Iustitia@feddit.de avatar

Imma go with “his head just did that”, but the feds know no one will believe them, so they’re hiding the truth.

Etienne_Dahu,

Back in the 60s, the CIA experimented on real-life cheat codes. But after an incorrect use of “BALLOONHEDZ” in '63, the program was canned.

Iustitia,
@Iustitia@feddit.de avatar

That’s the funniest thing I read today, and it’s made even better by being 100% true.

funkless_eck,

I prefer the Red Dwarf version where they save him, the world turns out worse, so they send him back in time to kill himself from the Grassy Knoll.

hellweaver666,
@hellweaver666@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Upvoted for Red Dwarf!

calhoon2005,
@calhoon2005@aussie.zone avatar

But what is it?

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

A British sitcom situated in space. Really worth the watch.

calhoon2005,
@calhoon2005@aussie.zone avatar

…but what is it? 😉

Zron,

Because the secret service accidentally shot the president in the back of the head, and it’s really embarrassing to admit that.

Thisfox, (edited )

Still the mist sensible answer.

*edit: Most. Most. Sigh.

Limit,

Like pink mist?

reverendsteveii,

Back of the head still doesn’t explain his head snapping back or the fact that the wound on the back of his head is visibly larger than the one on the front, indicating that it’s an exit wound. I’m not saying his own dudes definitely didn’t shoot him, but without speculating as to who fired the shit there’s a lot of evidence that it came from the front.

Zron,

The secret service was just starting to use AR-15 pattern rifles, chambered in .223.

You can see an agent with an AR-15 falling over when the motorcade accelerated, around the time JFK’s head exploded.

The only wound that jfk had that had bullet fragmentation was the headshot, despite the .30 caliber carcano rounds that Oswald was firing being very capable of punching straight through a head, and in fact passed cleanly through jfk’s spine and ribs without deforming or splintering.

The Autopsy report mentions how the bullet entered from the occipital lobe at the back of the skull, and fragmented, causing an exit wound by the ear.

.223 rounds commonly splinter when impacting bones, as they are fairly small and don’t maintain much momentum when they hit hard surfaces.

TubeTalkerX,

Waiting for everyone involved to die.

Hello_there,

Hey. Remember when the wife of a Watergate mastermind was on a plane? And also on that plane just happened to be a network news reporter covering Watergate? And that plane crashed? And the Nixon led inquiry didn't find anything wrong?
And remember when that Watergate mastermind confessed to the Kennedy assassination on his deathbed?
Crazy coincidence, huh?

redballooon,

No I remember none of that.

r2vq,
@r2vq@lemmy.ca avatar

Well you should get your memory checked out because I don’t remember it either and I have a terrible memory.

Hello_there,
Hello_there,
redballooon,

The Wikipedia article about the flight is a fascinating read. I don’t get where it says an Watergate investigating journalist was on board, but ok.

I see why it is fodder for conspiracy theorizing, but as always it’s also not the smoking gun one can make it seem to be, if one presents only a few selected factoids.

Hello_there,
redballooon,

Ok.

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar
jeffw,

I went to a lecture with a dude who was a government contractor at Kodak. His job for years was analyzing the Zapruder film. He literally held it in his hands. It was an interesting discussion, but there’s basically nothing inconsistent or weird about it. No splicing, no unexpected cuts, etc

Blake, (edited )

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  • bhmnscmm,
    @bhmnscmm@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s not true at all. There are multiple copies of the original film. Only one of the original copies was damaged by Life.

    dingus,
    @dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

    Because the government classifies things when they’re simply embarrassing. It doesn’t need to rise to “national security threat” for the USA to feel the need to quash the ability of citizenry to talk about it. Even if it’s not all that bad and simply embarrassing. They are way too cavalier about using classification powers because they don’t want their dirty laundry aired.

    What’s left to release is probably a lot less exciting than people think.

    masterofn001,

    Or… It was aliens.

    Reverendender,

    I’m not saying it’s aliens…

    Alto,
    @Alto@kbin.social avatar

    As with a large portion of conspiracies, the conspiracy was almost certainly the cover up of incompetence

    dingus,
    @dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

    Incompetence and conspiracy, name a more iconic duo.

    LeadSoldier,

    Certain missing police tapes are a good example. Why can they keep the school tapes from the people? Surely the suspect is dead.

    magnetosphere,
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    When I was younger, I believed there was a good chance that it was an inside job - the CIA, specifically. This was the only conspiracy theory I ever took seriously.

    Now, my beliefs are much closer to yours.

    TheBat,
    @TheBat@lemmy.world avatar
    magnetosphere,
    @magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

    I just watched White House Plumbers a few weeks ago, an HBO miniseries about Hunt and Liddy’s ridiculous fuckup at Watergate.

    shiveyarbles,

    Or it could be some crazy ass conspiracy shit. It’s all speculation til we see the goods.

    Ashyr,

    We basically do. The reality is that it’s just not sexy or exciting. All we’re really missing are files that could be related to ongoing investigations of criminal organizations.

    Historian Sean Munger has a pretty good video essay on this, but it’s honestly a bit of a letdown.

    youtu.be/DC8tO16xdrY?si=WJO5hB__bWmzdbDF

    youtu.be/Ptt1ti63IiE?si=idQodDcYYAt0X4pa

    KevonLooney,

    But that doesn’t reflect my pet conspiracy theory that it was the reverse vampires who did it. Therefore it’s fake.

    PaupersSerenade,
    @PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’m a reverse vampire (when I donate blood), and can confirm we’re up to no good

    FredericChopin_,

    Donate blood? What are you a socialist. People should produce their own damn blood and not rely on handouts.

    PaupersSerenade,
    @PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The Red Cross: ‘our blood’

    (a la bugs bunny meme)

    foggy,

    Just responding with an additional video essay on JFKs assassination, and all the facts we know, specifically about the schoolbook depository.

    Lemmino does great video essays with great animations/visuals

    youtu.be/5u7euN1HTuU?si=MmzC4uRrQGHOCj-k

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