How does everyone feel about Google Pixel phones?

Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

Sorry for the delay for the weekly. Server’s not that stable right now, maybe we should start the thread on Sundays instead.

I always like to switch things up once in a while because it’s fun. So, let’s get back to the brand discussion this week for the Google Pixel. We’ll do a discussion on repairability next week. Again, ideas are always welcome here.

I’ve never used a Pixel, but people around here should know that I’ve been very critical of Google’s product decisions over the years, and the Pixel is no exception. In my point of view, discontinuing the Nexus series, buying out the talents from the remains of HTC and starting an official “made by Google” phone is the equivalent of reddit buying out Alien Blue to make the official reddit app. I think it’s the event that scared big Android manufacturers like Samsung enough to start making their own ecosystem away from Google, as they are concerned that Google may start locking software features to their own phones instead of improving Android overall (rightfully so, I might add).

It really makes no business sense at all to turn your manufacturing partners into your competitors, but then again, it’s Google.

With that being said, the first years of the Pixels has been marred with growing pains. Whereas the Nexus line has always been barebones, no frills development devices, it seemed to me that the people who made Pixels don’t even use Android and are insistent on turning Pixel into iPhones, removing the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 despite the antagonistic ad from the original Pixel, Pixel exclusive software features like Google camera that necessitating the need of rom mods, as well as the quality issues that seems to be inherited from the Nexus days just really soured me from considering Pixels, as I think it’s against the spirit of openness that made Android great.

But it seems like in recent years, they finally figured out that a large percentage of people who bought Androids not because they can’t afford iPhones, but because they like Android, and I see the introduction of the “a” series as progress. The recent Pixel ad campaign also made me think that they finally figuring it out: people want different things, trying to turn Android into worse versions of iPhones was not going to work, so they should be trying to make the best Android for Android users instead.

(It’s also the reason I think all the previous reddit clones failed, but Lemmy will be the one that finally succeeds.)

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I like it because it’s quick and doesn’t have any bloatware.

Lime66,

Literally every Google app in existence is preinstalled

covert_czar,
@covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If not nothing i would choose pixel and install lineage os on it

newIdentity,

Why not GrapheneOS

covert_czar,
@covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Grapheneos too

mycroftholmess,

They’re awesome! But kinda unusable when you’re outside and connected to mobile data. Phone heats up quicker than usual, battery doesn’t last as long. I’m on a Pixel 6A, for context.

southernwolf,
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

I love my Pixel 6 Pro! I run a De-Googled ROM (CalyxOS) on mine, but even with that, basically every Pixel feature still works as expected. Google Camera is fantastic (doubly so on CalyxOS since I can firewall it from the internet), the AI features in the photos app works exactly as expected (and firewalled too), the camera itself is fantastic as well. Beautiful screen, great speakers, absolutely wonderful and beautiful form factor for a phone.

Only real complaint is battery life isn’t the best it could be, compared to the top-tier iphones or Samsung Galaxy devices, but it’s hardly “terrible” either, as some have made it out to seem. It does seem like running a De-Googled ROM may help that some (and I’ve had fewer bug issues than it seems stock Pixel Android users have dealt with, which is weird given CalyxOS is built on AOSP).

Overall though, I love my Pixel 6 Pro and absolutely intend to stick with it well into the future, and likely consider another Pixel when the time comes.

JimBean,

Thanks for the heads up about the AI features on GP. Just ordered my Pixel 6 Pro last night and I’ll flash CalyxOS on it straight away. Well… after trying GrapheneOS and maybe ProtonAOSP. Any reason you went for CalyxOS over those?

The only things that annoy me about it are the 6.7" screen compared to the 5.9" of my Zenfone 9 and lack of headphone jack, but Asus is done for now they’ve done away with bootloader unlocking… Have you tried using wired headphones with it, if so how’s the quality?

southernwolf,
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

Yeah, I chose CalyxOS over Graphene because it seems to me that CalyxOS focuses a lot more on usability (thanks to it’s MicroG support) than Graphene does. Graphene has likely improved on that front thanks to their sandboxing GSF approach, but it used to be slower to open apps and overall a bit less snappy due to the security features it enables. Plus, the team behind CalyxOS is fantastic, great guys who believe in what they are doing. Meanwhile, the leader of GrapheneOS is a bit… Psychotic, although he did recently step down after Louis Rossman called him out.

For ProtonAOSP, that’s basic just stock android. However, I’m unaware of it comes with either MicroG or Google Services installed. If it doesn’t, then you’re gonna have to figure out how to get support for apps either by flashing MicroG along with it, or be stuck with Foss app only. If it comes with Google Services, then it’s basically no different than stock Pixel Android at that point, which you might as well stick with to gain the full benefit of the Pixel device.

JimBean,

Thank you for the very informative reply! I love Calyx, used it on my OnePlus 8T briefly while they were testing support for it and now it’s running on my (smashed to shit) 4a.

Think I’ll definitely flash it on my P6P as soon as it gets here, thanks to what you and others have said.

The video was very informative, I’d heard about the project leader but never realised just how much of a cry baby he is… Not for me. I listened to an interview with Nick Merrill and really liked the guy’s values.

ProtonAOSP lets you install microG as an unprivileged app, but with signature spoofing. I like that approach, but the location services in Calyx are a bit too useful. Thanks again!

southernwolf,
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

Yeah, Nick Merrill is an awesome guy, and I really like what he’s done with CalyxOS as well. Community is great too, if you need any help, just ask and someone will definitely be able to help out.

JimBean,

Cheers to that mate.

d3Xt3r,

I’ve always been a Stock Android fanboy, so I loved the Pixel phones. However, for reasons, I got myself a Galaxy Fold 4 last year, which I fell in love with. I can’t see myself going back to a regular phone now, and for me to get a Pixel Fold, Google would really have to improve Android’s multitasking capabilities. On my Galaxy Fold for instance, I can have three tiled windows in a split-screen layout, or can have several floating windows of regular apps, which can be minimized into floating chatheads. With these floating windows, I can freely resize them, hide the header and even change their transparency levels. Which is great if you want to keep an eye out on some chat or Uber Eats or something whilst you are reading a book in full-screen. Having gotten used to these multitasking features, I can’t see myself going back to stock Android, until these are implemented.

denton,

I used the 2 and currently use the 4a (coming up to 3 years this Oct) but I think that’s the end of the line for me on pixels cause they’re just getting too big for someone with really small hands.

My three wants (in order or priority) for phones are: 1) reasonably small enough (pixel 4a just about fits into this criteria); 2) fingerprint scanner; 3) headphone jack

I’ve got a tiny jelly star from unihertz coming and if that doesn’t work out I’ll probably have to go zenphone cause they’re just about the size of the 4a.

Pity as I do like the pixel line

JimBean,

I completely agree with you. Selling my Zenfone 9 on eBay right now though, because they’ve decided to stop us from unlocking the bootloader.

I refuse to use Android as stock, so now I’ve gone and bought a Pixel 6 Pro. Not looking forward to the size as my 4a 5G is already too big, but hoping 4x camera is worth all the trade offs.

My ZF9 and the ZF8 are the best phones I’ve ever had apart from the aforementioned flaw. The ZF8 had problems with overheating and battery life, but the ZF9 completely solved those. The size is perfect, and the headphone jack is just a necessity. Gutted to have to give it up, but I’ve completely lost faith in Asus thanks to the bootloader bullshit

denton,

Oh, what does stopping users from unlocking the bootloader do? It’s sad to hear that it’s a decisive factor if the zenphone 9 was otherwise perfect

JimBean,

It means you can’t flash custom ROMs or root your device, so you can’t tweak the system or remove spyware beyond using ADB.

ASUS has since backtracked, saying they will allow bootloader unlocking, but I’m still getting rid of my Zenfone.

JimBean,

Just looked up the jelly star - wow !! Awesome little phone. If I wasn’t a photographer and didn’t need custom roms, I’d definitely buy one.

Will you let us know how it goes?!

denton,

Will do! It’s still a month or so off being shipped but I’m excited about it!

JimBean,

Great !! :D

nullPointer,

been a pixel user since they were called nexus. about as minimal bloat as you can get without going FOSS.

currently still on a 3a as it still gets the job done. I use my old nexus6 with FOSS as a basic handheld around the house. smart thermostat, sprinkler controller, throw YouTube up on the TV, etc.

Aasikki,

I love that the pixel extra features are useful instead of stupid gimmicks like some manufacturers have.

reveries,

Recently upgraded to a Pixel Fold from Microsoft Surface Duo 2. There is no way I am ever going back to a single screen phone

FeatherConstrictor, (edited )

You’re one of the few people I’ve seen that had this opinion about foldables! Would you mind explaining why you love them so much?

FeatherConstrictor,

You’re one of the few people I’ve seen that had this opinion about foldables! Would you mind explaining why you live them so much?

skymtf,
@skymtf@pricefield.org avatar

I have a pixel 6 and generally like it. Googles stock rom is where my issues with the pixel come up. Generally its not spookier than any other googled android phone. The rom looks good when the device is knew but from what I’ve seen online it tends to get slower after 2 years. This is nor an issue for me however since I moved over the graphineOS.

cyberpunk007,

There’s no technical reason the phone should slow down after 2 years unless newer OS versions are more straining, or all those years of gummed up apps are taking their toll. I’m on a 6 pro, which is now nearly 2 years old, not slow in the slightest.

got2best,

Curious what device are you using right now op?

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

I use a Moto Edge to post here.

Mon0,

The launcher forces the at a glance widget on the homescreen first 2 rows. That wouldn‘t be a problem in itself, but this version of at a glance is super broken and only works 3/10 times as intended. You can the put the original widget underneath it and test it and the original version will work 10/10 Times.

Not working means weather or events are not shown and there is no shortcut to them if you click there if if they are shown you alway go to your calendar. Also the days are written in short in that version so Thu. instead of Thursday in the original widget.

Kangy,

I swapped to a Pixel 7 Pro from a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra after having serious stutter and performance issues with my S22.so far I’ve loved it and it’s performed so much better than the S22 I had.

I do miss the customisation Samsung had with Good Lock modules though. Maybe I’ll have to look into rooting my phone unless I can find a no root alternative.

Long story short it’s been around 6 months and I’m still very happy with it.

techgearwhips, (edited )

I haven’t had a Samsung device since the S7 TouchWiz days. You’re telling me there’s still lag in the spec’d out top end devices all these years later?

Kangy,

There was on mine at least. It would overheat if on an extended video call and shut down all running apps until it was cool again. Sent it off to Samsung who replaced the main board (which I assume is the one that has the CPU ram and GPU attached) but the issues still persisted. My S22 ultra performed worse that my Note 10+ 5G.

To say I was disappointed in the performance is a drastic understatement considering the price of the phone

techgearwhips,

Crazy

dystop,
@dystop@lemmy.world avatar

I sold my Pixel 6 pro to get a Samsung S23. Unfortunately the main issues I had with the pixel were hardware-related and recurring, and while samsung isn’t ideal, most of their issues could be solved with a one-time fix.

Main issues I had with the Pixel:

  • Fingerprint sensor doesn’t work with privacy screens. Period. It’s not a question of buying cheap privacy screens, the Pixel fingerprint reader is optical and is just not compatible with privacy screens. Samsung uses an ultrasonic reader which is compatible with privacy screens.
  • The 6 Pro was unwieldy and ridiculously large, the smaller 6 doesn’t have the triple camera setup. Samsung is one of the few that doesn’t sacrifice phototaking ability in a smaller form factor.
  • That godawful new quick toggles UI is horrible. The quick toggles are ridiculously large, and who decided it would be a good idea to merge the wifi and internet toggles?! I managed to use adb commands to split the toggles in 12, but that broke with 13.

Issues I had with the Samsung:

  • Bloat - this was mainly in the form of some preinstalled software, but unlike in the early days of Samsung, I could uninstall most of the bloat easily without resorting to root, adb, etc. No bloat (pixel) is still better than bloat that can be uninstalled (samsung), but this problem was permanently solved after about 10 minutes.
  • Some Samsung native apps have horrible permission settings - eg Samsung Pay requires access to your contacts, and if you deny it any one permission, the app just force closes. I got around this by uninstalling the offending apps and using alternatives (e.g. google pay) - again, a one-time issue. fuck the intrusive permissions.
pewgar_seemsimandroid,

calyx os

chickenfish,
@chickenfish@lemmy.world avatar

Current Device: Pixel 7 Pro Previous: Galaxy S4, LGG4, S8, S10e.
Got the Pixel because there was a sale plus a really good trade value on the s10e

It’s fine.
Im not a heavy phone user. Im not doing a whole lot of gaming or videos or developing or whatever power users do, and it suits my needs. There are a few things I miss from Samsung, but overall the UI is fine and the battery is normally loads better than anything Ive had in a couple of years.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • [email protected]
  • uselessserver093
  • Food
  • aaaaaaacccccccce
  • test
  • CafeMeta
  • testmag
  • MUD
  • RhythmGameZone
  • RSS
  • dabs
  • oklahoma
  • feritale
  • KamenRider
  • Ask_kbincafe
  • TheResearchGuardian
  • KbinCafe
  • Socialism
  • SuperSentai
  • All magazines