Back in the day - rooting Android phones and installing custom ROMs were such a big part of Android. I remember so well using titanium backup and Greenify and Cyanogenmod and the list goes on.
Is it still necessary to root in 2023 though?
I have been on vanilla Android without root access for the past couple of years and at this point most root features have made it into the vanilla Android OS. What are your thoughts?
I keep my Android phone rooted because there’s specific functionality that I use daily that’s a pain to do without root.
It’s not my primary phone so the fact that it’s 3 years out of date in order to preserve my root doesn’t bother me. But if it was my primary phone I’d probably look into workarounds to avoid needing root.
I used to on my Motorola RAZR for custom themes and the ability to double tap volume keys for track skipping or rewind. Now I have an app to to do that and some watered down system themes. Now I just don’t cause I don’t see the reason for rooting anymore. And random apps like McDonald’s have started checking for root or unlocked bootloader’s for some reason.
I haven’t rooted in a long time. But if you tell me there is an app out there that can restrict or deny apps background usage (to increase deep sleep state %) and that you can only do it with root.
Then I’d say root might be necessary in those situations.
For example WhatsApp is the number one standby battery drainer in my phone. If I check partial wakelocks like 70% of them have the WhatsApp logo. (In BBS app). If I had a way to reduce them by 90% just keeping new messages and call working and root is needed for that then I’d want to root my phone.
I tried “Apps Ops” and it let me deny some of the permission. But maybe there is something more restrictive out there that needs root.
But isn’t Greenify outdated or they still update it?
Another thing I’m thinking: I’m interested in running some adb shell command every few minutes or hours to change the WhatsApp standby bucket from active to working_set that seems to reduce a lot of wakelocks.
Currently my standby (after tweaking for days) is not that bad. Like 0.4% per hour at night using wifi when I go to sleep.
WhatsApp despite of the restrictions I added is still the app with most partial wakelocks.
But generally apps that do something more advanced get outdated every year with new android versions with different permissions and API. This is why I was asking.
But I guess this app has nothing that got impacted.
For me yes, I can tweak my system at my liking, root breaking things is not something that has ever happened to me, all my bank app works without issues and I can’t remember the last time they didn’t.
I run Paranoid Android rooted along with tons of apps that require root acces such as Swift Backup, Adaway, App Manager, BBS, FKM, KonaBess, Pixelifly for Google Photos, Saver Tuner, Revanced, SD Maid, Termux, X-Plore etc.
And some modules like Zygisk, Detach, Pixel Launcher Extended
I know some of those apps doesn’t require root specifically (can work with adb) but for me is just easier to just put Magisk and call it a day.
If you want to use your phone for a few years it’s very nececary in my experience, they tend to get slow quick and with LineageOS (previously Cyanogenmod) I can still use a Galaxy s5, well I could if half of the hardware wasn’t broken but that’s beside the point. I think ROMs are definitely neccecary but mine isn’t rooted rn and it’s probably debatable if you realky need that, I miss a proper adblocker so I should have rooted mine and probably will sooner or later considering I got Lineage on it already.
I did with my old samsung, motorola, asus, nokia. But my last phone, PoCo F3, no, especially because it’s difficult to have a working Google Wallet with unlocked bootloader/root. I did it with my asus zenphone and nokia, but damn it broke every few weeks with a google update, and you needed to patch after patch after faking stuff and magisk addons etc for it to run a couple of weeks and BAM! Google Pay was disabled again… very annoying.
On my F3 I disabled/uninstalled unwanted apps with a debloater and I’m using Firefox for browsing. No need to root yet. When I’ll change phone I’ll root the old one.
Necessary for me to fix the “bugs” present in Android (Safetynet fix, F-droid & Aurora auto updates etc.) and some from the OEM (flawed camera libs from Xiaomi that unintentionally hamper the use of Gcam).
I root because my favorite adblocker is by a guy named kNinja, and I like having 3rd party Material You icons on my default launcher. Also prefer amoled black as a system theme through Repainter.
I’d love to root my pixel (grapheneos) because the tiles are just crap but I don’t want to mess with grapheneos’ security. If I’d do that, I could judt go with another brand and have awesome tiles by default.
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