rob299, (edited )

oh oh. a new tech war is coming for independant app developers.

I hope this doesn’t lead to Google to keep saying this repeativly for awhile and eventually removing the feature to side loading apps in the feature, them saying saying something like ‘sideloading an old outdated way we use to use the internet and it has security flaws’

They really just want to kill f-droid. Once they do that, it gets harder to block Youtube ads after all. Apps like new pipe would have to find a new home.

Are devs people going to wake up and make a new commercial os that will actual compete with android and iOS? no a new Linux distro is not going to come anywhere close to even, Macos marketshare. It needs to be new, and needs to be preloaded on computers and sell in stores. It needs to be simple.

MigratingtoLemmy,

I really hope linux phones take off by then at which point I’ll switch for certain

rob299,

I meant as a user, go ahead and switch to it. But to rid of the monopoly, they nee competition. No one is creating that for normies who don’t know how to Linux. If Linux phones make their way into walmarts and targets, then maybeee. It has to be as simple as buy it, and use it. like how you buy a Nintendo switch and it just works.

MigratingtoLemmy,

If only there was a working compatibility layer from Linux to plain Android.

netchami,

Use GrapheneOS, it’s a completely independent non-profit mobile security research project that has probably created the most secure mobile operating system out there. GrapheneOS doesn’t use any Google services by default, and it makes fundamental security improvements to the entire Android operating system stack. It also doesn’t have an official app store that comes with system privileges, so technically every app installation on GrapheneOS is ‘sideloading’. In my opinion, it’s by far the best option for a mobile OS.

rob299, (edited )

Want to know why they might really be saying to not sideload apps, because they are saying without saying it “screw you epic games, screw you 3rd party YouTube clients that get rid of our ads and screw you f-droid for offering something to people for free that isn’t piracy, now we have to compete with that and make good products, or do we mwahaha.”

AceFuzzLord,

Be Pichai.

Tell people not to sideload apps fOr SaFeTy.

Find out [Insert Malware App] has been on the play store for months and tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people have downloaded it.

Matth78,
@Matth78@lemmy.world avatar

Hope there will be movement from some governments to forbid having no choice about store for apps. I don’t know about iPhone but is there really no other way but apple store to install app? Apart from jailbreaking? If so I am concerned nothing has / is already been done about forcing their stores on users.

maynarkh,

There is already one in the EU. Regulation just passed a while ago, will be in effect in March. Windows is getting a less shitty EU version because if it for example.

Look up the Digital Markets Act.

disconnectikacio,

Of course i do, and install more and more sideload apps. Newpipe is good, smarttube is great, youtube premium is lame ;)

netchami,

Also check out LibreTube

people_are_cute,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I advise Pichai to suck my dick

Nath,
@Nath@aussie.zone avatar

I agree with him. If you don’t know what you are doing and just blindly install something off the Internet, it’s a security concern. I would not recommend that most users side-load apps, either. You have to remember that this crowd is not representative of the average user.

Just don’t take the option away from those of us who do know what they are doing.

mydude,

FOSS via F-Droid is gaining momentum, they don’t like it.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

They don’t like Epic Game Store gaining momentum. They don’t care that much about F-Droid.

lud,

Yeah, no a lot of lost revenue from f droid

netchami,

It’s kinda funny to watch two garbage corporations fighting each other

archchan,

Ok asshole I won’t sideload apps from the Play Store anymore.

fne8w2ah,

Haven’t he heard of F-Droid?

netchami,

He obviously wants people to use his crappy centralized proprietary store that collects all of your information instead of a superior FLOSS platform

thepiguy,

I advise him to stfu

netchami,

That is great advice.

Mr_nutter_butter,
@Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world avatar

If playstore wasn’t utter shite maybe I wouldn’t sideload apps

netchami,

As long as an advertising company that spies on everyone owns and controls the Play Store, it will always be a complete and utter piece of garbage

Auli,

What’s Apples excuse? Their store seems worse then Googles.

netchami,

Don’t even get me started on the flaws with Apple, their walled garden and the App Store

It’s the reason I left the Apple ecosystem and switched to a far superior operating system that actually respects the user and gives them freedom over their devices. GrapheneOS is awesome!

lazycouchpotato, (edited )
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

I own my device. I get to choose what I install on it.

Google Chrome isn’t on the Microsoft Store on Windows or macOS Store on macOS. Should I stop “sideloading” it according to his advice?

Edit: Found more about the quote on The Verge: theverge.com/…/pichai-we-dont-want-to-allow-you-t…

“We’re trying to strike a balance. Apple’s iPhone only allows the App Store, but we believe in choice, so on Android we allow you to sideload and install additional applications.”

I’m so conflicted about it. I don’t want people to have to suffer for intentionally or unintentionally installing garbage on their phones, but I can’t let that take away from how I use my device as well.

netchami,

Google Chrome isn’t on the Microsoft Store on Windows or macOS Store on macOS. Should I stop “sideloading” it according to his advice?

Yes, actually no one on this planet should be using Chrome or any proprietary browser when superior FLOSS alternatives like Firefox and LibreWolf exist.

Kuori,
@Kuori@hexbear.net avatar

“CEO says” annnnd ignored. next time get someone with a soul to say whatever it is.

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Could you imagine Laptop manufacturers saying “do NOT download apps from other websites. ONLY download from the Windows App Store”

Like, fuck off Pichai, you’re insane

Are phones the only devices out there that receive such scrutiny in the tech world?? My laptop can literally do the exact same thing but better

ILikeBoobies,

People should do that though

It’s good security practice to use your package manager and if you have to download off the internet then you should build it yourself

redcalcium,

You usually can add more repo/source to your package manager though.

ILikeBoobies,

You over estimate the average user if you trust them for that

Umbrias,

Not really planning on sacrificing privacy and safety from monopolies by doing that thanks. Not everybody’s threat model is that ridiculous.

rob299,

I will with you halfway through with this, here is how I view it.

If you have little experience with telling between safe sources and sketchy, then yes, stick with the defualt.

If ypuu know about some safe appstores or repositories then that’s when you could say you are qualified to make thes decisions. Like I know Fdroid is safer and better than the defialt on everyway for the users best interest, but if you dont know your sources then you should not sidelode untill you do know how to make good decisions.

rob299, (edited )

That’s different then the owner off the defualt android appstore telling you. If a device manufactuer did say this, i’d question why.

Did google pay them to?? or more specific to your comment did microsoft pay them

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