Now that you've used Lemmy and /kbin which do you prefer and why?

I am torn. Lemmy feels slimmer and easier to use with a wider variety of apps. Kbin has an advantage of being an "all-in-one" solution for the Fediverse with a better UI.

That said I use Mastodon for microblogging, so Kbin having that built in only clutters the site in my particular use case. While Kbin has a better UI it's also more drab in color and harder to navigate. Kbin also has this karma/points system which feels odd. It skews into the negative VERY easily and is displayed on your profile. I prefer Lemmy's upvote/downvote system but doesn't have a permanent karma/points system.

I've been reading Lemmy is growing much faster than Kbin, but then I hear that "it's all bots" and not real growth.

Where do you stand on this? Where do you think you'll find yourself when this all shakes out?

reitoei,

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    relative_iterator,
    @relative_iterator@kbin.social avatar

    I’m on iOS and have the site added to my homepage as an app. There’s no way to refresh so I’m constantly falling into this trap 😩

    Freehours9,
    @Freehours9@kbin.social avatar

    I show the top bar and just tap “subscribed” or whatever to refresh.

    hawdini,
    @hawdini@kbin.social avatar

    That's the solution I've ended up going with too. Hoping to get my hands on the iOS Beta of Artemis soon, though.

    nevernevermore,

    The "home button" being hidden behind the hamburger menu and the fact that I can't collapse comment threads are my only 2 QoL issues, otherwise it all works great for a product that's only like 6 weeks old lol

    There's just a polish to this site that Lemmy instances don't have

    TimeSquirrel,
    @TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

    It would also be nice to have a "context" button on comments in your profile so you can quickly see your comment surrounded by the comments you were interacting with, like Reddit did. Right now I'm having to go back to the original thread and find my comment to see the sub-thread it was part of and remember what it was we were talking about.

    Also having trouble seeing comment reply notifications from instances outside of kbin. They don't show up at all and I am unable to see if people are replying to them. Have to go back to the original thread again.

    thereisalamp,
    @thereisalamp@kbin.social avatar

    This is really the only fair I'm struggling with, wick access to the thread content before replying is important. I'm trying to avoid commenting on similar threads atm so I don't accidentally include something from a different thread

    FreeBooteR69,
    @FreeBooteR69@kbin.social avatar

    I prefer kbin myself, though it is imperfect. Comment box should be at the top of the thread, and our subscriptions we subscribe to should be more easily discoverable, under profile name/settings seems non obvious from what i've seen of questions asked by others.

    HeapOfDogs,

    Comment at the bottom makes me bonkers

    shadowtux,
    @shadowtux@kbin.social avatar

    This fixes that https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script/code

    WTFisthisOMGreally,
    @WTFisthisOMGreally@kbin.social avatar

    I wish I could get that but I primarily browse on my iPhone.

    Jezebelley,
    @Jezebelley@kbin.social avatar

    You still can with the Userscripts extension.

    supermurs,
    @supermurs@kbin.social avatar

    Thanks for sharing this!

    lost_usb_stick,

    Finding the subscriptions definitely a pain, what does help is going to settings >gear wheel and turning on some of the navigation bars.

    lixus98,
    @lixus98@kbin.social avatar

    There's multiple things to consider, both are great options, but right now I'm liking kbin more for these reasons:

    • Better algorithm, when I go to my homepage I feel that the site is full of new, active content, where people are having discussions.
    • Integration with Mastodon, I like to take a peek from time to time on the Microblog tab.
    • No feed bug. Lemmy has a problem where it would show every single new post on top of the feed (I know this is being fixed)

    Overall both Lemmy and kbin are in their infancy and I expect both to get better to a point where choosing between them won't come down to which one of the two have less bugs, and more focused in the features and appearance you want, this ofc will change with the many apps being developed, since they will be vastly different.
    I might end up in Lemmy or I might stay on kbin, it depends which one feels more "active" to me.

    ryan97,
    @ryan97@lemmy.world avatar

    I like kbin's UI better, however Lemmy lets you click on a thumbnail to expand the picture inline, whereas on kbin clicking the thumbnail just opens the comments. So right now it's Lemmy, purely for usability

    Tyson712,

    Considering we can get lemmy content here anyway and kbin has a better UI, it's a no brainier

    timothy_120,
    @timothy_120@kbin.social avatar

    For sure Kbin. I keep trying Lemmy from time to time but between the UI and the inconsistent sorting algorithms over there I have chosen to stay here!

    can,

    Agreed. Luckily the algorithm bug is being fixed in the next release.

    timothy_120,
    @timothy_120@kbin.social avatar

    Oh cool! The more improvements the better!

    supermurs,
    @supermurs@kbin.social avatar

    I like kbin UI a lot, found also some user styles and scripts to make it even better. For iOS I found a great app called Memmy, I wish there was something similar for kbin.

    ritswd,

    Lemmy. I really worry that any karma system will lead to lower-quality communities faster, because of the incentives it creates to gamify it. I appreciate that the Lemmy devs have intentionally stayed away from having a karma system at all.

    Duchess,
    @Duchess@lemmy.world avatar

    i found and tried out kbin first but it was still very small. i saw lots of activity on lemmy.world so i joined here. at first i was very confused and trying to use mastodon to access lemmy/kbin content which, while it technically works, makes following threads really confusing. so yeah, lemmy is where i access everything from but i'm following lots of kbin magazines here too

    ZcaT,
    @ZcaT@lemmy.world avatar

    Lemmy cuz i registered here first

    shrugal,
    @shrugal@lemmy.world avatar

    I'm using lemmy right now because it has a proper Android app, but I think I'll switch as soon as kbin gets their's up and running.

    Easy_Fox,
    @Easy_Fox@kbin.social avatar

    Kbin, the Lemmy interface is just a no-no for me.

    Beep22,
    @Beep22@kbin.social avatar

    Clicked a link for Lemmy a few weeks ago and backed away slowly. Later tried Kbin social and just set up an account. It was easy. It’s still new and feels awkward. There’s annoying things like scrolling for the comment box, going through profile for subscriptions and problems finding replies and comments on Lemmy, but change is never easy.

    MeccAnon,
    @MeccAnon@kbin.social avatar

    Kbin all the way, also as de-federated community. That said, now that I'm getting the gist of selecting the instances and magazines I want, enjoying the federated content has also become easier.

    TeaHands,
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    I've not tried Kbin myself, but I've poked around it and the husband is on there so I've had a detailed tour. Initially picked Lemmy because I found the design of it in general to be more modern and pleasing, and seeing him use Kbin has definitely reinforced that choice for me.

    Then I see threads with tons of people saying it's the exact other way round and Lemmy looks too old fashioned for them!

    So I guess what I'm saying is we're all just clueless apes who have no idea what we're talking about and it's good there's an option for everyone 😆

    I'll probably make a Kbin account at some point anyway though since that's the easier codebase for me to contribute to.

    GONADS125,

    I think people can make logical points for and against each, but yeah it really just boils down to personal preference. I like Lemmy better myself, and most of the complaints I see about it will be smoothed out in due time.

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