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Zaroni, to europe in Russia’s ruling party downplays war in sweeping regional election push, distancing itself from narratives related to Ukraine invasion

“Election push” lmao, have to make it look like they are trying a little even though everyone knows there is no such thing

Tomassci, to europe in With Allies Scarce, Russia Paints Itself as the Enemy of ‘Western Colonialism’
@Tomassci@kbin.social avatar

Enemy of western colonialism AND defender of traditionalism

Russia targets both tankies (by that I mean apologists of authoritatian states that may or may not be socialist) and traditionalists in such an effective way. Luckilyost of us have common sense to not fall for this.

argv_minus_one, to news in Russian Soldiers in Ukraine Threaten to Abandon Posts Over Landfill in Hometown

Hell hath no fury like a NIMBY scorned.

vzq, to europe in With Allies Scarce, Russia Paints Itself as the Enemy of ‘Western Colonialism’

Anyone who’s been on Lemmy in the past weeks could have told you that ;)

psukys,

New to lemmy, is it plagued with tankies?

vzq,

Sort of, but it really depends if your instance is one of the ones that still fetches posts from Tankie central servers. If it does, then yes. If it doesn’t, still yes, but way less.

Fiivemacs, to news in Russian Soldiers in Ukraine Threaten to Abandon Posts Over Landfill in Hometown

So no issues murdering people for no reason but some garbage…and you entire town getting cancer is enough to make you fight just the garbage? The fuck…y’all are garbage.

hh93,

NIMBYs on another level

SenorBolsa,
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

You are talking about people who have been consuming agitprop their whole life about why they should do this kind of thing for their country, and there’s a good chance they were conscripted against their will, where the choice was go to war or die in a gulag. In the same way I wouldn’t blame every American that went to Vietnam for the pointlessness and atrocities of that war either. (though I may be biased on that, my grandfather was drafted and was a cartographer during the war)

enitoni,
@enitoni@beehaw.org avatar

Do you know how effective propaganda can be?

lntl, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

Wow, Russian men are state sponsored monsters.

boredtortoise, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

Uh oh. Hopefully I don’t have to read about a “critical support” justification for this because it disrupts “western hegemony”

zakobjoa, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows
@zakobjoa@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, I have never before heard the phrase “reproductive violence” and I sincerely hope I’ll never hear it again.

0x815, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

Just two examples:

In 2017, Russian President Putin signed a bill into law decriminalizing domestic violence

"[…] a huge step backward for Russia, where victims of domestic violence already face enormous obstacles to getting help or justice,” said Yulia Gorbunova, Russia researcher at Human Rights Watch. “The domestic violence bill would reduce penalties for abusers and put victims’ lives at even greater risk.”

In 2021, The Moscow Times reported:

In Russia, police fail to respond to domestic violence complaints or refuse to act on them with frightening regularity. Russian media often report on deaths from domestic violence that could have been prevented.

The weak police response is part of Russian authorities’ systemic failure to properly address domestic violence.

Even people facing severe physical abuse do not get adequate protection and assistance. Cases can be prosecuted under various legal provisions but Russia has no specific law on domestic violence. Russian legislation does not contain a stand-alone offense, or even a definition, for domestic violence, nor does it allow for protection orders to ensure immediate and life-saving help.

napoleonsdumbcousin, (edited ) to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

I read through the mentioned study that is quoted in the article as the source for that number with a translator, but I cannot find anything relating to the number. On the contrary, the mentioned rates of abuse seem to be way lower.

In general, 24% of respondents are aware of the use of physical force (beatings, blows) in families among their environment, including their own. Every fourteenth resident of Russia (7%) witnessed domestic assault in the parental family, and every twentieth (5%) practices or is the object of violence in their own. Given the sensitivity of the topic of violence for the interview format, we can assume that this share in both cases may be higher.

(Translated)

…translate.goog/…/domashnee-nasilie/?_x_tr_sl=aut…

At the end it talks about which acts are generally considered domestic violence by married people, but it does not even talk about the rate of abused married woman in particular.

Maybe someone who can read russian can find something here that I cannot? But as of now I see no source for the claim.

Edit: Just to be clear: I am not supporting Russia’s War. I am merely pointing out that the source for the claim does not actually support the claim.

cwagner,

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  • napoleonsdumbcousin,

    So not only did the original article quote the wrong study, they also completely misread the content of the actual study.

    @0x815 you might want to edit the title of your post to prevent spreading misinformation.

    gelberhut, (edited )
    @gelberhut@lemdro.id avatar

    I read the study in Russian (but I did not read the article referenced in the post).

    The only number I found there is that to the question “sometimes conflicts in a family cause physical violence” 4% of women answered that this happened in their family and 21% of women said that this happened in their environment.

    The study also analyses what people consider as a domestic violence as such, for example many consider “requirement to show SMS/social chat” as a violence - so this term could be wider than one thinks.

    Hyperreality, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

    Widely used Russian proverb: “Бьёт – значит любит”

    Translation “if he beats you, it means he loves you”.

    0x815,

    Similar proverbs exist in multiple cultures across the globe.

    paddirn,

    “You only hurt the ones you love.”

    tryptaminev,

    Saying something mean and hurtful when in a heated argument is still a stratosphere away from the crime, pain and trauma of rape.

    DessertStorms,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    Not only that, but we teach them to children from infancy ("he's only mean to you because he likes you!").
    It's quite disturbing how pervasive, and harmful, these ideas are, throughout all patriarchal societies.

    Xianshi,

    That is so fucked up.

    throws_lemy,
    @throws_lemy@reddthat.com avatar

    sounds like this is a common fetish in Russia 🤔

    Hank,

    I was told that saying is used ironically by younger generations. At least by those who are educated enough to have contact to the west.

    lowleveldata, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

    91? Does that mean that only 9% of married men are non-violent?

    ValiantDust,
    @ValiantDust@feddit.de avatar

    No, it doesn’t necessarily. Several women can be the victim of one man. Of course that doesn’t change that it’s probably a very low number.

    Francisco, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows
    Maiznieks, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

    This tells so much about russians… Terrible, just terible.

    OscarRobin,

    *Russian men

    DessertStorms,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    If violence towards women is your metric, this is hardly a problem exclusive to them (to be clear this isn't to excuse Russia, it's to point out that a violent rape culture exist everywhere there is patriarchy, and it is said patriarchy that needs to be addressed, not an individual country).

    tetraodon,

    Whereas it is true that patriarchal norms also extend to the so-called West, it is hardly the case that 91% of women have experienced violence including rape.

    traveler,

    Why people think Ukrainians and the rest don’t have anything to do with them. Tells a lot about republicans the fact they are increasingly showing support for the Russians.

    0x815, to europe in 91% of Russian married women have experienced domestic violence, which often includes sexual violence, poll data shows

    St. Petersburg Police Detain Woman Who Fled Chechnya Over Domestic Violence

    Police in the Russian city of St. Petersburg have detained and reportedly sent back a woman who had fled her native North Caucasus region of Chechnya because of fears for her safety, the SK SOS human rights group said on August 24, adding that Seda Suleimanova may face an “honor killing” upon her return.

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