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polskilumalo, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country
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Fuck if anything we all should be preparing to die for American shareholders if their bloodlust continues to escalate this conflict.

Hexadecimalkink, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

As opposed to the Ukranians who are just telling this generation to die.

fiah, (edited )
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

yes, Ukrainians totally marched into Ukraine and started shooting Ukrainians

polskilumalo,
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Yes they actually did! 2014 rang, they’re asking where you’ve been for the past 9 years.

I hate how the entirety of the civil war is being forgotten and how history seems to have begun for most liberals in 2022.

Blursty,
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deafboy, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country
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They’ve been doing it for years. I’ve been both fascinated and disgusted by this song, recorded long before the fullscale invasion.

CascadeOfLight, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country
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  • CascadeOfLight,

    You’re right, Donetsk and Luhansk doing what it took to protect their citizens from genocidal Galician fascists by inviting Russia into the civil war was exactly the correct course of action.

    fiah,
    @fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    ah, hexbears again? I was wondering what that smell was

    polskilumalo,
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    Cry ab it and defederate yourself ❤️

    WoofWoof91,
    @WoofWoof91@hexbear.net avatar

    10 quid says you would say the same about the hitler youth

    FaeDrifter,

    If you study History, you will notice that it was Nazi Germany that was the aggressor sending it’s military to conqueror other sovereign nations.

    Sounds a bit familiar to today, a little country that brings with R and ends with Ussia.

    Stalins_Spoon,
    @Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    The US started the chain of events in 2014 by funding a color revolution, McCain even came to encourage it.

    freagle,

    It’s such an interesting way of phrasing it, right? As though Russia is incapable of defending itself, only attacking others. As though the security needs of a large state with massive porous borders are the same as a small state. As though the only things that can be considered aggression are the one day in 2022 and the entire 8 years before it cannot be considered aggression, nor can the entire 30 years before that be considered aggression.

    It amazes me that you can use the word nuance in one sentence and then immediately formulate a sentence that amounts to “History started at 2022 when Russia launched an unprovoked hot conflict for reasons other than national defense where previously exactly zero aggression was happening.”

    StalinwasaGryffindor,

    The context that these are nazis indoctrinating children? That context?

    polskilumalo,
    @polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Chauvinist and ultranationalist indoctrination of children is good actually, as long our guys do it!

    Hitlerjugend? Nah mate, only Russia would do that! The free western world is only preparing to defend it’s culture from asiatic hordes seeking to destroy it and imposing authoritarian rule over us!

    Do you realize how insane you sound?

    Dr_Cog,
    @Dr_Cog@mander.xyz avatar

    Remind me again who invaded?

    I think only Russia did that.

    FaeDrifter,

    Don’t forget that Ukrainians are also being brainwashed into being gay

    lgbtqnation.com/…/putins-adviser-says-u-s-is-usin…

    MrMakabar, to europe in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country
    @MrMakabar@slrpnk.net avatar

    Putin really does not see it. Ukraine really does not matter to the West, but by killing his youth he long term destroys Russia as a serious threat. Same story with his military equipment. There is a reason many in the West do not want Ukraine to win quickly. The war destroys Russia as a serious threat long term. The longer it lasts, the weaker Russia is going to become.

    TehWorld,

    He does see it but he doesn’t care.

    MustrumR,

    You are absolutely right, but I would like to highlight that many is not a majority.

    Majority of us want to see this over ASAP with Russia bleeding on the floor and Ukraine getting a good rest and reconstruction.

    Zoboomafoo,
    @Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

    The guy’s 70 years old, what does he care about the future?

    TopShelfVanilla,

    He is afraid he will be forgotten.

    Pyr_Pressure,

    In the end everyone will be forgotten.

    10 thousand years from now even Alexander the great may be forgotten. Especially if nuclear Armageddon happens.

    Burn_The_Right,

    Alex who?

    Sigmatics,

    It’s sad, but it’s probably the true reason behind the delayed weapons deliveries (tanks, planes etc)

    luthis, to europe in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

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  • wintertag,

    And in anarchy the strongest will be the winner, so you still can have this outcome.

    0x815,

    … socialist state where the government actually does serve the people

    Do yourself a favour and stay away from wherever you receive this stuff.

    TopShelfVanilla,

    Aaaaaand nobody cares about your little label. You bring nothing to the table. You’re a 14 year old trying to sound edgy. You’re not even unique. There’s dozens of you. Dozens. Come back to the conversation when you have something to add to it.

    TransplantedSconie, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

    As is tradition.

    xuxebiko, to worldnews in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

    Theyll think they're dying for their country, in reality they'll be dying for Putin's fantasy.

    freagle,

    Weird comment considering how much military propaganda exists in the USA. Did you watch the latest Top Gun film?

    DonnieDarkmode,

    How does the existence of military propaganda in the US make the observation that there’s military propaganda in Russia a weird comment?

    freagle,

    Because the idea that people in Russia will not be dying for their country but instead be dying for the fantasy of the president is either completely universal for all countries, and therefore not notable, or it’s an attempt to demonstrate how this situation is notably different than in other contexts.

    DonnieDarkmode,

    That’s a false dichotomy, but honestly even if you granted it I don’t think it affects the validity of the original statement. People dying for one thing when they think they’re dying for another is sad, even if it happens everywhere all the time. I also don’t really get the contention, that saying “a particular aspect of Russian nationalism is bad” is not notable, when this is literally a post about a particular aspect of Russian nationalism?

    freagle,

    You don’t see the problem with an article picking a universal experience, accentuating it by writing an article about it, omitting any mention of other examples of it in any other country, and doing it in the context of war mongering, war profiteering, proxy warfare, distribution of weapons to neo-Nazi groups that were supported as part of a multi-decade pro-Nazi leave-behind system (Operation Gladio), as part of th expansion of the world’s only transnational nuclear military that is unaccountable to any citizens of any country that has launched multiple wars of aggression and occupation?

    You don’t see how an article like that contributes to a narrative of othering and dehumanization by it’s silent ommission and lack of acknowledgement? You don’t see how that narrative of othering and dehumanization leads to mass murder, ecocide, and escalation towards nuclear conflict?

    You think everything is just a spherical frictionless ball in a world without air resistance that has no interactions with anything else and isn’t informed by nor informs other major trends?

    DonnieDarkmode,

    I mean I straight-up didn’t say any of that, nor is it reasonable to infer that I take those positions from what I did say. I’m not even talking about the article; I’m talking about your initial critique of OPs comment. Now if you think that their comment is wrong or misleading then ok, sure, but that’s not what you said (or at least it didn’t seem to be).

    This seems like it would be better suited as a top-level response to the post rather than as a response to something that I never said. There are enough libs on the internet that excuse or ignore fascism/imperialism such that you don’t need to invent new ones to argue with.

    Blursty,
    @Blursty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Another day another defense of the charge of hypocrisy with the “whataboutism” cliché.

    How do you look yourself in the mirror?

    HipPriest,

    I'm not from the US, and have no real interest in defending their history on military matters, but your talking about their entertainment industry not their education system. The article is about how Russia is going to use its education system to get their kids to be good soldiers in the future, not about how they're going to make more action films

    freagle,

    Fair point. I’ll counter with that there’s very little useful difference because the DoD produces those movies and has full script control over scores of movies every year, while simultaneously the head of education in the USA was very recently the sister of Erik Prince, the founder of the Blackwater mercenary army. Education has been manipulated for propagandizing children in the West since forever, and in the USA we have groups like the Daughters of the Confederacy writing curriculum.

    Further, the USA has been glorifying soldiers in schools for decades with high school recruitment, ROTC, letter writing, fund raising, special events featuring soldiers and veterans.

    It’s just not that hard to see that whatever the West accuses other countries of doing it’s something that the West has been doing and doing far worse.

    Blursty,
    @Blursty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    not their education system

    They make children swear allegiance every fucking day. Savages.

    niktemadur, to europe in Russia is Preparing the Next Generation to Die for Their Country

    To live and die in misery, because some assholes on top have an alcoholic, inferiority-complex grudge against a myriad demons in their own narrow miserable minds, which they project out at everyone and everything, including their own.

    The only thing russians seem to hate more than their own lives, are the lives of others.

    xionzui, to europe in The Russian economy relies on millions of Asian migrant workers who are increasingly looking elsewhere for opportunities amid a falling Ruble

    Also, you know, the whole getting drafted from the job site thing

    crispy_kilt, to europe in Moldova Deports Local Bureau Chief of Russia's Sputnik News Agency

    Well done.

    0x815, to europe in Russian teachers resign over refusal to allow Ukraine veterans in class to teach what they believe is promoting war to children

    "I won’t let them turn into pawns for the military’ - Russians on how they’re protecting their children from pro-war propaganda in schools

    To avoid the issues with the new history syllabus, my kids decided not to pick history or social studies as options for the Unified State Exam. We decided instead to study 20th-century history at home, looking at different views on historical events and how our ancestors lived in that period.

    We’ll study history at home using Tamara Eidelman’s lectures or Maxim Kats’s Youtube videos.

    I went to a meeting for parents in the spring and realized that I couldn’t send my children to that school. My husband and I decided to homeschool them. We enrolled our children in an online school, where there are no “Important Conversations” lessons — they’re just provided with real educational material.

    awwwyissss, to europe in Russian teachers resign over refusal to allow Ukraine veterans in class to teach what they believe is promoting war to children

    Brainwashing is much more effective when people are young and have relatively high neural plasticity. That’s the only reason religions survive, they indoctrinate children.

    HappyMeatbag, to europe in Russian teachers resign over refusal to allow Ukraine veterans in class to teach what they believe is promoting war to children
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    These kids are learning early that the government is not your friend.

    thisbenzingring, to europe in Russian teachers resign over refusal to allow Ukraine veterans in class to teach what they believe is promoting war to children

    I guess Russia is entering the All’s Quiet on the Western Front stage of their war…

    Tar_alcaran,

    With a sprinkling of “we have always been at war with NATO”

    agressivelyPassive,

    Well, that’s not entirely false.

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