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Engywuck, to technology in Threads Has Begun Federating Via ActivityPub

And I have moved my mastodon account to an instance who actively defederated Threads. I’m not interested in interacting with anyone on that network.

And I’m fucking sick of the “content relevant for me” thing. I interact with people asking/giving help, discussing and so on. Mindlessly consuming “content” is simply a disease.

ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Mindlessly consuming “content” is simply a disease.

Agreed. It's like a lot of other unhealthy addictions.

AnneBonny,

And I have moved my mastodon account to an instance who actively defederated Threads.

Is that pretty easy to do?

noodlejetski,

fairly easy. you can export the list of your followers and followed account, block lists, bookmarks and so on, and import them in the new account. the posts you’ve made aren’t moved, though. fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-a…

AnneBonny,

Thanks

jarfil,

the posts you’ve made aren’t moved, though

That’s kind of a fail, and a feature that could be added (with some work).

fer0n,

It’s great that everyone is able to choose for themselves

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

I don’t get why Mastodon servers feel the need to fully defederate from Threads. Silencing them is much better. It allows your users to follow Threads accounts without people who don’t know anyone on that side getting overwhelmed by the global timeline, as Threads is about twelve times bigger than the entire rest of the Fediverse combined.

Nobody is moving from Threads to Mastodon because mastodon.zip decided to defederate all you’re doing by blocking them is preventing the users with friends who use Threads from using your site correctly.

Of course some platforms, like Lemmy and Kbin, don’t support moderation features like silencing, it makes sense to fully defederate in those cases, but only because of technical restrictions, really.

sour,
@sour@kbin.social avatar

why wont threads friends go to mastodon

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Same reason why Telegram friends won’t go to Signal: they don’t care about the platform they use, and you end up being that friend if you ask them to change their habits for you.

Once Threads support federation in both direction, the need to move disappears completely. Why would you move to a server run by volunteers that sometimes goes down when Elon says something stupid, especially if your Mastodon friends can interact with your account like normal. That’s ActivityPub working and doing what it’s supposed to do.

shnizmuffin,
@shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol avatar

How many reasons does Meta have to give before distrust is the default?

“Hey, admin, why can’t I follow my mom on threads from your instance?”

“Because Meta facilitated genocide in Myanmar.”

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

While Facebook’s recommendation algorithm definitely plays a part here, most of this analysis could have "Facebook " replaced by “the internet” without changing any of the meaning. The same hate speech is also spread across WhatsApp (which caused WhatsApp to put a limit on the amount of times you can forward a message) and every other messenger.

Facebook’s automatic hate speech removal system may be pitifully ineffective, at least they have one. Here on the Fediverse, we have a slur filter, just sometimes, and even fewer moderators per user than Facebook has.

And, despite Facebook’s role in helping spread hate speech as a large platform and refusing to proactively go after such speech, here’s how the rest of your conversation will go:

“Hey, admin, why can’t I follow my mom on threads from your instance?”

“Because Meta facilitated genocide in Myanmar.” “Aw, that’s bad. Anyway, I’ll just create a Threads account I guess, my mom is sharing my niece’s baby pictures.”

wesker, to technology in Threads Has Begun Federating Via ActivityPub
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Mark Zuckerturds destroys everything he touches, and now he wants to touch you.

0xtero,
@0xtero@kbin.social avatar

He can touch deeznuts

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nard Zuckerballs

aeronmelon,

You do not want the lizard prince to touch your nuts.

tj,

Elon Musk: "Hold my beer"

LainOfTheWired,
@LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol avatar

The difference is twitter is just another big social media platform. Elon Musk isn’t potentially trying to ruin an open source federated alternative that fixes a lot of the problems with social media. He’s just messing around with and tanking a big corpo social media site.

So I honesty don’t really care about twitter as it will get us more users if he burns it down, if the Zuck doesn’t ruin us first.

Basically twitter isn’t a threat to us and could actually be a big help.

Threads could ruin everything we’ve worked for.

BraveSirZaphod,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

If this is the level of maturity that's going to represent the Fediverse, I'm almost inclined to believe they actually do have pure intentions, because there's no way this shit is financially valuable.

fer0n,

There’s a large number of people here that have a deeply emotional hatred for anything related to Meta and I get that. But these dull comments don’t make for a fun discussion. They don’t add anything. They won’t affect anything. They’re just boring comments wasting everyone’s time.

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

You’ll get over it, some day.

fer0n,

Well, I don’t think I’m the one who has to get over something, but sure. Thanks for the kind words.

sour, (edited )
@sour@kbin.social avatar

is for profit company

financially valuable thing is all they do

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m flattered you’ve elected me to represent the Fediverse.

Gnugit, to technology in Threads Has Begun Federating Via ActivityPub

Fuck threads

Etterra, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation

Aaaaand Musk had them banned.

Okay probably not, but you never know with that petty sociopath. Regardless I ditched Twitter the day Musky took over. It’s not like I used it much anyway, and I ditched FB during the aftermath of T***p’s election before he even took office. I don’t miss either one.

Aopen, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation

I aint native english and I cant understand a word from title. Is this normal?

PastaGorgonzola,

Not sure what part you don’t understand, but I’ll try and help: Snopes (a fact checking website) shows that the way links are displayed nowadays (the new link presentation or new way links are presented) on X (formerly Twitter) lacks any sense -> snopes shows the folly of it.

Aopen,

Thanks! My previous interpretation: Snopes Shows™ - company related to film industry Folly™ - name of another company, surprisingly there is no comma or “and” between them X’s - unknown high number or Twitter New Link Presentation™ - Proprietary feature made by big tech company I have never heard about

So it looks like Clickbaity Capitalisation Of Every Word fooled me. IMO title should look like: “Snopes shows the folly of new link presentation on X”

leviathan3k,

These are actually standard English title capitalization rules. Most words are capitalized, save for grammatical articles.

grammarly.com/…/capitalization-in-the-titles/

Aopen,

TIL English capitalisation rules in titles. I tought they are same as in Polish. Quick search for Polish rules:

Question:

I would like to kindly ask you to clarify whether the name of the “Polish Biographical Dictionary” should be written in lowercase letters, like other multi-volume compact publications. Wikipedia editors stubbornly insist on spelling the dictionary in capital letters, guided by, among other things, prefer authors (PBD editors) who use capital letters of all title elements on the title page.

Answer:

In single-word and multi-word titles of books, scientific dissertations, films, laws or declarations, we write only the first word with a capital letter, e.g. Zarys grammar of Polish, [translator capitalized non-first words] The Little Princess, Orthographic Dictionary of the Polish Language, etc. (exceptions are: Old Testament, New Testament, Holy Scripture and Magna Charta Libertatum). It is also allowed to write entire words of the title in capital letters on the covers and title pages of books, in the titles of films, plays, advertisements or sporting events (e.g.: THE LITTLE PRINCESS). Please do not be influenced by what Wikipedia suggests. Regards Anna Sokół-Klein

(…uni.lodz.pl/…/pisownia-tytulow/)

serial_crusher, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation
@serial_crusher@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

So instead of being fooled by fake and misleading headlines written by journalists, you can get fooled by fake and misleading headlines written by Twitter users? If you insist on not reading the article, I’m not sure one of those is worse than the other.

R00bot, (edited )
@R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Being fooled by Twitter users is worse as they can link to reputable sources (that usually wouldn’t post clickbait/bad headings). There’s also little incentive for twitter users to not post misleading headlines, while (some) journalists/news sites are trying to build a reputation of reputability. Yes, it would be solved by clicking the article, but you shouldn’t have to click every article to make sure the poster isn’t lying about the content.

teh_bishop, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation

The Mastodon shall stomp the Muskrat…

homesweethomeMrL, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation

Anyone still using that spewhole is either a nazi, an embarrassed nazi, or forced to use nazi propaganda tools by their workplace.

Facebook is the CBS of social media, they’ll be around until their userbase literally dies. “X” (snort, chuckle), uh, is not.

blazera, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

What is it then?

Dkarma,

You’re supposed to be able to be smart enough to get it from the pic if you know how to read for context.

Terevos, to technology in Snopes Shows the Folly of X’s New Link Presentation
@Terevos@lemm.ee avatar

You know what does show headlines? Mastodon.

Reverendender,

Firefish

Gork,

The real headline is why hasn’t Mastodon renamed itself to just M yet.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

John Mastodon would never allow that.

Teon,
@Teon@kbin.social avatar

Actually we need to start a branding war and rename Mastodon to "SE-X"!
Suck it elon!!

postmateDumbass,

Mmmmm…

kautau,

Wait but X is 4 letters away from T. 4 letters away from M is… Q. QANON CONFIRMED, IT WAS ALL RIGHT IN FRONT OF US SHEEPLE

Terevos,
@Terevos@lemm.ee avatar

Twitter is available now. /s

brooksreview, to technology in What’s the deal with Sensor Tower?

Wild seeing Gruber, of all people, spending the last week(s) defending a meta product and refuting negativity about it.

WillfulBedder,

That and his seemingly concerning hatred for Europe because Threads hasn’t launched there yet…

brooksreview,

That was a weird one too

mr_tyler_durden,

I don’t think he’s defending a Meta product as much as he is calling out Sensor Tower for being scummy at best if not full of shit.

okiokbar,

The negativity was pretty asinine though. Nothing he said, I think, was wrong. I remember Mastodon people (rightfully) reacting quite annoyed at similar reports on how usage had peaked and was dropping again, just because not all the new users stuck around.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres, to technology in What’s the deal with Sensor Tower?

The news industry falling for completely made-up metrics about social media engagement is the most Charlie-Brown-kicking-a-football ass thing I can think of.

toasteranimation, to apple in Apple Tries to Explain to U.K. Legislators That You Can’t Add Back Doors to Secure Protocols
@toasteranimation@lemmy.world avatar

A friendly reminder that encrypted email solves all this and has been working fine, without interruption or threat of removal, for a few decades now

webghost0101, to apple in Apple Tries to Explain to U.K. Legislators That You Can’t Add Back Doors to Secure Protocols

Europe is trying to pull the same thing to build backdoors in encrypted apps. All while relying very much on encrypted apps themselves.

They are doing so under the title “ laying down rules to prevent and combat child sexual abuse “

Any citizen with 3 brain cells to rub together can see how much of a trojan horse this is. But it seems actually reading and understanding the text body is above the politicians their skill level.

nicetriangle,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Problem is that best case scenario is that the people legislating this stuff don’t understand the tech whatsoever.

End0fLine, to apple_enthusiast in Apollo Is a Work of Art
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Apollo is the most used apps across my iPhone/iPad. While I don’t really seem to be missing Reddit, I absolutely miss Apollo. It is jarring to go from using Apollo to Mlem, but I understand that Mlem will only get better with time.

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