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Complete with fences, barbed wire and “papers, please”

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Easy. Arrest all pregnant women traveling.

Who is going to stop them?

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And be recording all of this to the cloud while you’re at it.

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Board: “that’s almost where we want things, let’s see if we can pump up those chances”

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Or they hope it sticks. If they flood the courts with enough egregiously fucked up laws some are bound to slip through.

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Of course it is also possible to get click through rare and even track add-to-carts and purchases… So you would think that would drive more compelling ads. But then the ad companies charge per click so naturally they want to encourage clicking in any way possible.

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Idk about this specifically but a decent monster truck RC car would probably handle some terrain beyond asphalt. Maybe. I think you would need a larger scale to stand a better chance of success.

But yeah using quadcopters probably makes more sense.

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These transporter accidents are getting out of hand.

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Me: do the thing

🧠: “uh, no. Now sounds horrible and way too hard and it’ll take eleventy billion hours”

Later

🧠: “OMG Emergency!! I’m late!! … Completes task … Wow that was kind of quick and easy. Why didn’t we do this sooner???”

Me: (ಠ_ಠ)

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I mean… mostly complete…

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If you say a thing often enough people start to believe it. Because people are fucking morons.

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I’m not sure if he is declining or about the same? At least he got the names right this time. I would half expect to hear about “President Arby’s of Nambia” or some shit.

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Yeah, I know, I’m surprised that’s all he mixed up.

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I am guessing in some cases it is a combo of psychological trauma plus external stressors like being broke af.

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Was that in the jaily jail or bar-y bar fighty fight?

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Holy wah. You’re like my kid. Her phone is stuffed to the gills with thousands of em (maybe millions by now 🤔) She’s only in HS. Help?

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MemeSquirrel. I like it.

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Good job Argentina. o7

Fucking fascist dickbags are everywhere these days.

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I hate when I am written in Pascal

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Plus you won’t worry that you forget to free her

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I think I’ll just stick to curses

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How many more years before all of Earth is a disaster zone?

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The old folks home is gonna be lit. Can’t wait.

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Probably better remind myself of that … For later…

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I’ve even seen this before and it still took a minute. Geez

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I am seriously worried he is going to go after the mother and children next. Fuck.

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I had a conversation about this decades ago and it stuck with me. It’s bothered me all this time. I have to believe our color perception is at least close if, biologically, we have rods and cones that operate in the same way, and brain structures that work the same. (To keep it simple I’m not considering colorblindness).

What I find really fascinating is some higher level things that I didn’t realize were different between people.

Some people see things in their mind’s eye and those with aphantasia struggle to do so if at all.

Some can envision and manipulate things in 3d and some have a harder time with this.

Some people like me with ADHD have what is called time blindness, “difficulties with tasks related to time, such as estimating how long an activity will take, sticking to schedules, and recognizing when it’s appropriate to start or finish tasks.” (Healthline.com). My perception of time is … limited but it is hard to describe exactly what I’m missing because I don’t know what it is like to be normal.

I’m sure there are other examples as well.

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There is a part of the brain that handles recognizing faces. Maybe they see the eyes and nose but it doesn’t “click” as “face” like it does for others? In the same way as if you saw 👁️ you don’t think face. I know there are cases of people having inability to recognize people. Maybe it is related

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Interesting. Like normal brains sort of fill in those gaps but theirs don’t maybe?

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Ah right. That was the one I was forgetting. I’m often talking in my head to think unless I’m thinking visually.

If I may, how does your thinking work?

I’m not so much narrating my thoughts as using words to think things. E.g. in my head I say, “how do they do that? I have to have words to express the thoughts”

Or another example: when I am typing I am basically “dictating”, but by speaking inside my head and typing what I “say”.

Are you able to just …conjure concepts and ideas without words, somehow?

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I am skeptical that colors universally bring about moods or concepts. One would have to prove this is true despite cultural conditioning that ascribes meaning to different colors.

I also doubt that each person experiences colors in a significantly unique way. Unless we can show that the receptors in our retinas, or the neurons receiving those signals, behave differently from person to person. I have to wonder if widely appealing art (that uses color) could even exist if we didn’t share the underlying mechanisms of seeing and reacting to its colors.

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I didn’t say I was opposed to the idea or that I was discounting it out of hand. I simply said I was skeptical (unwilling to believe something just because someone says so) and mentioned a way to think through it scientifically. Then You kind of bombarded me with a lot of claims and anecdotes… Eek. Hold your fire lol

Those are all compelling things you list and it piques my curiosity further. But these things aren’t rock solid evidence. Sure it’s possible. But not very convincing. We can do better. So yeah, I’m curious to tease out what color associations are learned versus hardwired.

“What you have seen” never makes for unassailable evidence on its own. That’s because you, like every other one of us humans, is affected by myriad cognitive biases that can skew your conclusions. (Which is how we got superstitions and old wives tales)

Also, it almost sounds like your argument is that the only way for these associations to occur is through being taught directly and explicitly. But there are other ways to learn things. Kids pick up on all kinds of unspoken things. When going, they often look to their parents for their reaction to some things. They learn a considerable amount of language without being explicitly taught. Musical associations happen without explicit teaching and that definitely varies by culture.

One can just seek evidence to support their conclusion and ignore all the other possible causes or counter examples or whatever else.

For example, cool light (by this you mean light on the blue end) means focus and warm light (on the red end) means relax. Hardwiring is one explanation. But simple learned associations could be another.

Assuming it is true, perhaps orange / yellow / red tints make us relaxed because of associations with sunsets and candlelight. Or something along those lines. Would humana who grew up with a star producing a different light spectrum have a different interpretation? Can people be trained with different associations?

The premise itself has to be tested as well. Is it truly Universal across many cultures? How many cultures have you proven this to hold for? And how did you prove it? By asking? Or by sound experiments? Were those experiments duplicated by others?

Oh also you are unlikely to remember much of anything prior to the age of 3 (give or take). So maybe your parents did have those conversations but at a very young age.

Maybe studies have been done about a lot of these things. I would be curious to see them. But now I’m tired and need to turn my brain off.

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So fascinating.

I really wished I could write like that. Probably because of poor working memory (thanks ADHD) I can’t hold that much stuff in my head prior to writing. Certainly not a bunch of raw wordless concept blobs (or whatever?) plus flow an form and all that. Jeez. I invariably write things as I go. I might have a vague sense of what I want to write. Certainly nothing “done” before writing.

I can “see” a rough approximation of The Scream in my head. Enough to draw an inaccurate copy. I can draw other stuff (cars, bicycles, cats whatever) by visualizing them to greater or lesser degrees.

My kid has aphantasia and described it like you did. Remembering facts about it but not so much the actual image itself. Interestingly she is quite good at drawing.

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Interesting. I hadn’t considered art might have no effect on some. Interesting that autism could play a role there.

My kid usually draws from a picture or something. I do that sometimes too. (Well I don’t draw much anymore).

My wife can’t draw. She has tried numerous times. I infer there’s some capability of looking at a pic and abstracting it into lines or shades or whatever and then putting that on paper. Well, she doesn’t have that.

She does not have aphantasia. So she can see a cat, say, in her mind’s eye but can’t translate that onto paper I guess?

I suppose the more detailed you can picture something the easier it would be to draw it if you have the ability to translate pic to paper.

I read once an exercise where you have people draw a bicycle without using a picture. The results are often laughably inaccurate. I guess because some folks think they know how the thing works but don’t. Or haven’t paid enough attention. But presumably if, like me, you have had bikes for years, worked on them, know how they work, and paid attention to all the details you can make a very accurate drawing.

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Wow well done! Freaks me out just looking at the pic.

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It’s nice when the primary goal of the owners and mods and aligns with the users.

Chasing profit is the worst mechanism in so many cases. One of those cases is when competition is by nature very limited. Social media kind of fails unless you have very few places to go. And you’re locked in if your friends are all on the same offering.

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So what I’m hearing is I should run my car on this stuff and drink gasoline.

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indefatigable

Damn Baader-Meinhof … there’s that word again!

Now if I could remember how to pronounce it…

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My wife before we met. I don’t really believe in woo woo shit but… Lights would be on that were off, cabinet doors were found open that were closed. It all stopped after a relative of the former (deceased) owner stopped to visit one day. Could be explained other ways, sure. I don’t have hard evidence or anything. But I kinda don’t completely discount ghosts anymore, either.

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I’ve never seen either. I’ll have to convert this to “cruise ship”

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Ok… the one I am familiar with is Disney Wonder at 294m long

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Yes, this post right here, officer.

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So with that logic they can ban antibiotics too?

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I, too, miss the days of ASCII art.

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Which will cost more so maybe some won’t.

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Is the affordable housing here with us now?

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