Rivalarrival

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Rivalarrival,

Why would I want to harm anybody else all because of my misfortune.

How about those who deliberately create that misfortune?

While you can’t fully control whether or not you get cancer, the cost of cancer treatment doesn’t have to be a “misfortune”. Cancer treatment doesn’t have to be out of your reach. Every other major world power has figured out how to fund universal healthcare.

The people demanding that you bear the artificially inflated, exorbitant cost of treatment are calling for your death. They are attacking you. They have figured out a way to literally murder you with institutionalized neglect. That isn’t hyperbole; they are running a protection racket, and using your death as a warning to others thinking about not purchasing their services.

The victims of such attempts on their lives should have no moral qualms against causing harm to the entities responsible.

Rivalarrival,

I’d be much more likely to support and sympathize with a group blowing up fossil fuel infrastructure than standing in the fucking road, blocking traffic.

Rivalarrival,

Yes, that’s an accurate summary of what I just said.

The only thing those idiots are likely to accomplish is stronger laws against jaywalking.

Rivalarrival,

Breaking those LCD screens might just convince them to stop installing them, stop playing those fucking ads while I’m trying to refuel.

Rivalarrival,

Giving the general public and the oil companies a common enemy. It’s a bold move, Cotton.

Rivalarrival,

No halfway decent person who isn’t a steaming pile of excrement would be deterred by such a protest.

You assume there are significantly more “halfway decent people” than “steaming piles of excrement”. If your assumption were true, we would have abandoned fossil fuels in favor of electric vehicles at least 40 years ago, and wouldn’t be having this argument today. Humanity leans far more to the “excrement” side of this particular debate.

You need the support of quite a lot of the people you describe as “steaming piles of excrement”, and all you’re doing is driving them straight to the first politician who says “I’ll lock up every last one of these asshole protesters as soon as they step in the street” while taking the money of every oil tycoon on the planet.

No, OP’s idea is infinitely superior to those jobless, orange-coated jackasses.

Rivalarrival,

Gasoline won’t become unavailable. There is too much redundancy built into the production and distribution networks.

What would happen is the price of gasoline would rise, which would further drive electric vehicle adoption.

OP’s approach is infinitely superior to harassing drivers directly.

Rivalarrival,

If.

Rivalarrival, (edited )

So they say.

There’s a lot of jail space to hold them.

Rivalarrival,

If your commute is being blocked, use that time to think

I use that time to think about bills classifying intentional obstruction of traffic to be unlawful detention.

Rivalarrival, (edited )

Protests are supposed to raise awareness and motivate people to join their cause. These particular protests are turning away far more people from this cause than they are gaining.

These protests are ideal for promoting stricter laws against jaywalking and unlawful detention, but not so much for reducing the use of fossil fuels.

Rivalarrival,

Very few electric plants burn petroleum products. Fossil fuel plants typically burn either coal or natural gas, neither of which would be significantly affected by disruption of oil-based infrastructure.

Rivalarrival,

Correct. The problems of a blown up refinery will affect the oil producers first. The problems of obstructing traffic will affect the oil producers never.

Picket the oil infrastructure. Make it expensive and unreliable, and consumers will gravitate away from it. The problems it will cause are not a big, but a feature.

Rivalarrival,

the maximum output of a horse can be up to 15 horsepower,

That’s the problem. The unit was not developed on the maximum power a horse could put out. It was intended to be what a typical horse could continuously sustain throughout the work day.

Rivalarrival,

Meh, dark humor to get you through your day. You should hear what doctors, nurses, and paramedics say to eachother when they think nobody is listening. Take them seriously, and you’d think they are all psychopaths.

Rivalarrival,

They need to make dark jokes about junkies, criminals, whatever, I get it, if that’s what it takes to not blow your brains out while you’re out there dealing with the underbelly.

That’s exactly what this officer is doing here: making dark jokes about a terrible situation he seems to have witnessed. He’s not acting like it’s NBD. He’s clearly trying to cope, to come to grips with what happened, rather than blowing his brains out.

Rivalarrival,

Where are you getting the idea that he took a life? He’s talking about another cop, not himself. He didn’t “explicitly take said life”.

Rivalarrival,

You would have a point if he was the officer involved in the collision. He is not.

So, to use your “doctor” metaphor, it’s more like a neurosurgeon talking with a pediatrician about how badly the ER doctor fucked up, killed someone, and is in deep shit.

Rivalarrival,

Horseshit. The obscenity of that statement is exactly what makes it dark humor.

Rivalarrival,

Where are you getting the idea that this officer was the direct cause of death of the woman?

He is clearly talking about another officer, not himself. The first full sentence he speaks in the video shows that.

Rivalarrival,

You confide in your peers. Hopefully you have some who can be trusted to understand you feel too emotionally invested, and need to develop some emotional detachment. You confide in them, they confide in you, and neither of you believes the other is a psychopath, even though you’re saying every intrusive thought that comes into your head, without trying to filter it out first.

And if you’re real lucky, you do that without recording it for the whole fucking world to judge you.

Rivalarrival,

Bet you won’t ever hear him talk like that about a fellow cop getting gunned down or run over…the whole department would beat his ass.

I would take that bet in a heartbeat, especially among police, fire, military, medicine, or other PTSD-inducing fields. Such insulting, seemingly-denigrating comments would not be at all unusual at an “Irish Wake”.

Rivalarrival,

If you watch the video, you’ll realize that the officer is on the phone with a peer. He is having a private conversation that was unfortunately and unintentionally recorded by his body camera.

I believe the officer is trying to use dark humor to develop a sense of detachment from a horrific event. His statements are clearly delivered as sarcasm, not sincerity. He is saying outlandish things in an attempt to avoid becoming emotionally overwhelmed.

He is coping, not denigrating.

Rivalarrival,

This cop was not involved in the woman’s death. He was not driving the car that killed her. He saw her mangled body as she was dead or dying.

It fucked him up. He is trying to cope.

Rivalarrival,

If that isn’t clear to you, you either didn’t watch the video, or you have a problem with empathy. If you don’t recognize this behavior, you have never worked in medicine, emergency services, military, or any other field regularly exposed to death and trauma.

This is coping behavior. What he saw fucked him up emotionally, and he is doing what he can to stay in control of his emotions.

Rivalarrival,

If he was intentionally displaying this behavior to the public, I would agree with you. However, every indication is that this was intended to be a private conversation with a trusted peer, and the recording was never intended to be made or published.

With that context, there is no justification for a claim of sociopathy.

Rivalarrival,

So your point is actually even stupider than it looks at face value because these two degenerates were speaking honestly

They weren’t speaking honestly. They were speaking sarcastically. Do you have a tough time recognizing the difference?

Rivalarrival,

Coping by dehumanizing the victim?

Yep.

There is an entire category of tropes documenting such behavior in our culture. It’s pretty common behavior, especially among populations regularly exposed to trauma.

Rivalarrival,

They were, indeed, laughing about her death.

Dark humor is very common. You can find examples throughout our culture. It is certainly not an indication of sociopathy.

Rivalarrival,

You can find fairly large computer monitors, and some monitors have built in speakers. That’s about the best you can do.

Rivalarrival,

That’s called “breakfast” in the corps.

Rivalarrival,

You’re supposed to kinda hate Q. He plays a recurring role here and there throughout the series, but not a central one.

The first season of TNG is a bit rough; it definitely improves.

Rivalarrival,

Need to combine the bedroom and kitchen.

Bitchen.

Rivalarrival,

Are you kidding me? The texture is the worst part. The taste of raw tomatoes is the second worst. They only start to get good after you cook the living hell out of them.

Rivalarrival,

Mom always had a sizeable garden in the backyard growing up. I haven’t had time for a garden the past couple years, but I usually have Romas and a few other varieties in mine. I’ve always hated fresh tomatoes.

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Rivalarrival,

Because they are buying the power, which pays for grid upgrades. The grid won’t be improved without demand, and miners provide a flexible, profitable demand for power.

ERCOT’s incentives are a bit off, though. They should be offering power to miners at very low rates when they have excess supply available, then jacking up the rates to miners well beyond the point of profitability when they don’t have it. Ideally, they would convince the miners to install their own solar and wind generation (and maybe pumped storage as well) and pay them more than they would earn mining to backfeed the grid during power shortages.

Paying miners not to use power is just fucking stupid.

Rivalarrival,

That makes sense, but if that’s the case, ERCOT needs to adjust its rates for that plan. They need to increase the cost of power and decrease the reward for discontinuing their use.

Miners should be pushed toward a plan with highly variable power costs. They should have the very lowest rates when power is plentiful, but the highest rates when it is scarce. They are ideal candidates for this kind of “demand shaping”.

Rivalarrival,

Certain large industrial customers might get paid to voluntarily shed loads as part of a service level agreement, but those agreements should include rates structured to make mining unprofitable.

Rivalarrival,

You certainly can establish different rate plans for your customers to choose from. You don’t need a fixed cost per kWh. You could offer discounts for off-peak consumption, and surcharges for on-peak. You could establish reliability tiers, where you get a discount in exchange for being ready to shut down consumption when needed. The lower the tier you select, the cheaper your power, but the more you have to shut down.

Rivalarrival,

Ok. Go look at the image again, and this time, stop and think about it.

You are driving a vehicle equipped with a ramp on the left side. You certainly can’t pull into this space; your ramp will be blocked by the trike. But, you can still back in to the space, and use the ramp access on the opposite side.

The alternative is that he takes the whole space, and you don’t have a handicap space accessible to you at all.

And you are telling me that it is preferable for him to simply take the entire space he is entitled to take, rather than leave enough room for you to park as well?

Are you serious right now?

Rivalarrival, (edited )

How did he block anything?

I could fit a handicap van with a right side ramp into that spot. I could back a handicap van with a left side ramp into that spot. I could pull or back a vehicle with a rear ramp or no ramp into that spot. Yes, he is blocking the ramp access on one side, but I have yet to see a handicap vehicle even equipped with ramps on both sides.

(I think) all three of the spots in the photo are designated handicap parking. There are three (presumably) handicap vehicles parked in those three spots, and yet the way he has parked, there is still room for a fourth.

You are aware that van-accessible handicapped spaces only need ramp access on one side, right? That space has ramp access on both sides only because those two ramp access areas serve three spaces. He only blocked van access in the far space; that far space is still accessible to non-van handicapped vehicles. The remaining ramp space is still available to serve the other two spaces.

Rivalarrival,

There is no indication that he isn’t. Trikes are often ridden by handicapped riders.

If he isn’t entitled to a spot, that’s another issue.

Rivalarrival,

Not being able to see the placard is not an indication that one does not exist. It’s just “anecdotal bullshit that has no bearing on this discussion”.

I addressed the possibility of the rider not having a handicap placard very early in this discussion. You are not raising any new issue here. I clearly specified from the start that my argument rested on the assumption that he is permitted to park in handicap spaces.

Again, he is parked in such a way as to maximize the number of accessible spots. Parking the way that you and others have argued he should would result in fewer spots available for other handicap drivers.

Your argument is authoritarian; my argument is utilitarian. Your argument is “do it that way because some painted line said so”; my argument is “do it this way because it is functionally, objectively, and mathematically superior.”

Rivalarrival,

“Der, there are three spaces. How dare he park in such a way that 4 vehicles can fit in them?!?” – you, probably.

Rivalarrival, (edited )

Dump raw sewage into the ground in suburbia?

Well and septic are viable options down to as little as half-acre lots, yes. Raw sewage is dumped into the first of 2-3 tanks, where it is biologically processed with virtually no intervention, before the nutrient-rich effluent eventually flows into a leach field and soaks into the topsoil.

Municipal sewage processing does it much the same way. The problem is that the cities don’t have sufficient biomass, so they have to discharge their effluent over a very large area. A city typically converts a nearby river into a massive leachfield.

You have a problem with individuals processing their own sewage and discharge it to vegetation on their own lands, but you support massively upscaling that process and dumping the effluent directly into waterways.

“Capitalism hellscape” accurately describes one of these scenarios, but not the one you’re thinking of.

Rivalarrival,

When I left home this afternoon, I briefly disturbed two doe and four fawns eating ground ivy in my front yard. When I get home, I’m going to hear crickets in the woods behind my house, and bullfrogs in the pond. I’ll probably hear the big owl in my neighbor’s tree, talking to his girlfriend down the road.

While I was last in the city, I saw a homeless guy pissing on the sidewalk, dozens of boarded buildings, and hundreds of broken windows. I heard four sets of gunshots. The local “park” has nothing growing in it; it has an asphalt basketball court and a gravel playground with busted equipment. An industrial site has a methane flare burning overhead 24/7.

The reason you are having a rough time explaining what’s wrong with my argument is that you are accustomed to the dystopian nightmare of urban living, and expect everyone to accept and tolerate that nightmare.

Rivalarrival,

Hmm. I must have misunderstood when you said:

I don’t even know where to start in explaining…

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