killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

This makes two bays unusable for a section of disabled people, which is why the car in the bay furthest away has had to park two feet away

This is pure shitheadedness whether they are disabled or not, and whether it was done due to malice or stupidity.

Mdotaut801,

Trikes are for fat people in a midlife crisis.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Trikes are usually ridden by older people anyways so it’s possible this person actually is legally handicapped and didn’t want to take up the whole spot since they have a smaller vehicle.

They were probably attempting to be courteous here, not an asshole.

AA5B,

Doubt it. Surely anyone legally handicapped knows to stay clear of the loading/ramp area of a handicapped spot

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

As opposed to taking up the whole spot? If you need the loading ramp you could still use the spot and just reverse if it’s on the side he’s taking up.

Would you prefer he take the entire spot which his trike? Instead of potentially still letting someone park there? He’s taking up less space this way.

Vex_Detrause,

Well then the handicap person can just find another spot that doesn’t have a tricycle parked beside it /s. “The handicap person needs to work around this tricycle driver” is totally opposite of accessibility.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

So you’d prefer the handicapped individual to have no parking spot because the trike parked dead center in a spot they don’t need the space for, rather than them having to reverse to get the ramp on the correct side?

Vex_Detrause,

“/s” means sarcasm. I want everyone that doesn’t have a handicapped tag to park as far away as possible from the handicap designated parking spot.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

God you’re fucking dense. This entire comment chain is predicated on the idea that the trike is ridden by a handicapped individual.

Know why? Because they’re almost exclusively ridden by people who USED TO ride motorcycles but can’t BECAUSE THEYRE HANDICAPPED.

JoBo,

If you need the loading ramp you could still use the spot and just reverse if it’s on the side he’s taking up.

Not if you can’t get into the vehicle in order to reverse it. There’s a reason they have protected width on both sides.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Not if you can’t get into the vehicle in order to reverse it.

Like… at home? Before you come to the store?

JoBo,

No… at the store, where the parked vehicle is blocking your access.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

But you’d already be in your vehicle when you are parking, so you’d just park either forward or reverse to compensate for the trike.

snausagesinablanket,
@snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world avatar

How does the handicap driver get out of their car with this “courteous biker” parked there?

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Who knows, the most likely handicapped trike driver should have just parked dead center so that nunces like you would bitch about that instead.

whome,

He probably thinks he’s pretty considerate cause he didn’t use the handicapped spot.

Hack3900,

I’ve never driven / idk how parking works
Why is this bad ?

Sarsoar,

The reason many accessible spots like this had large clearance on both sides is so if the person in the vehicle needs extra space to get out. Many times they may have a lift or ramp that raises and lowers an accessibility scooter into and out of the side of the van and blocking this area stops them from accessing their equipment.

Hack3900,

Thanks a lot this is good to know :)

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not. Trikes are 99% of the time ridden by people who used to ride motorcycles but are medically incapable (handicapped) or too old to balance on a bike (and also probably handicapped.)

Assuming this person is actually one of the above, they’re trying to reduce the amount of space their vehicle takes up by not parking dead center in the handicapped spot with a vehicle that doesn’t need the space, thus freeing it up for someone else who also needs it.

The reason people are angry is because the cross hatched zones are intended as spacers to allow people with wheelchairs to access their vehicles via loading ramp. The thing is, not all handicapped people use wheelchairs (crazy, it’s possible to be handicapped in some other way) and even if they do, they could just reverse in to use the OTHER SIDE that’s not blocked.

The trike rider is intending to be courteous by not taking up a whole parking space when they only need a third of it, thus saving the spot for someone who is handicapped and driving a car.

Not good enough for Lemmy! They want him to park dead center so that no one can use the spot! Fucking morons.

Hack3900,

I see i c

nogrub,

infront of the train station where i live there is always cars that park over 3 spaces i have no idea what one would have to think to not just park normally

Anticorp,

A lot of the people who ride these are actually handicapped themselves. So maybe they have a handicap license plate, but are trying to be considerate of other handicap people by not taking up the entire spot when they only need a little space.

atticus88th,

Mentally handicapped makes a lot more sense because I have never seen one of those things drive normally.

Incandemon,

Still not great though because it would still be blocking access to the stall, effectively blocking the stall anyways.

The bike parking there for example blocks a wheelchair lift if the vehicle doesnt want to back in.

Rev3rze,

It would block it all the same if they parked in the spot. Assuming this person is handicapped themselves they must’ve figured “either I block the entire parking spot for everybody, or I block it only for those that need the loading bay area for a wheelchair lift.”

I honestly think it’s meant to be courteous and it does work out that way for some if this person’s only alternative is to take up the whole space.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

People in this thread have fucking brain damage or are just that committed to being recreationally angry.

If you park centrally you remove the spot for everyone, if you park in the area intended for loading ramps you only take up the space for a ramp on that side. So either someone without a ramp can use it, or get this you can just reverse your car and the ramp is on the OTHER SIDE!

It’s a no-win scenario, if the trike was parked correctly they’d bitch that he took up the whole spot for his tiny little trike. No good deed goes unpunished when reactionaries are involved.

Stuka,

Who buys motorcycles with training wheels?

daemoz,

Riders who get old mostly. Bikes aren’t light once they start to tip.

cokane_88,
@cokane_88@lemmy.world avatar

I love when people double park in front of a business but if you drive up the street a block or park of the other side of the road there’s plenty of spots, but instead flashes hazard lights and parks in the fucking road/way.

RememberTheApollo_,

Welcome to every downtown area everywhere.

silentwinged,
@silentwinged@lemmy.ca avatar

And every drugstore, grocery store, Starbucks, Walmart, etc…

JaxNakamura,

Welcome to every downtown area everywhere

… in the United car-dependent States of America.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Possible stupid question: What is the appeal of those three-wheeled motorcycles anyway?

cokane_88,
@cokane_88@lemmy.world avatar

I dislike bikes but my guess is it’s more stable than a 2 wheel bike, slightly safer death trap.

qtw,

Where I live you can drive these with a regular car drivers license, because they are technically considered cars according to the law. So you save money and time not getting a motor cycle license. But that probably doesn’t apply to the US.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I think they count as standard motorcycles in the U.S.

averagedrunk,

I can’t speak for everywhere, but in Texas you have to have an M class license (motorcycle endorsement) in order to ride one legally.

Khanzarate,

In the US, it depends on motor size and a few other things. Also varies by state. But that’s often true.

MystikIncarnate,

nhtsa.gov/…/importation-and-certification-faqs-0#….

A motorcycle is: “a motor vehicle with motive power having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with ground”

Delphia,

I know a couple of guys with them, often its older guys with back, hip or knee issues.

Corkyskog,

So you could be handicapped and riding one of those is what I think I am reading?

Delphia,

That didnt even cross my mind but, yeah that could actually be the case and they parked over to one side to leave room deliberately.

averagedrunk,

I ride motorcycles. When I get too old I’ll be riding one of those with my oxygen tank strapped to it.

CluckN,

All the safety of a motorcycle with the maneuverability of a car.

happyhippo,

This guy /s

sndmn,

They’re just giant mobility scooters.

Anticorp,

A lot of times they’re used by disabled people who can’t ride traditional motorcycles.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That makes sense.

vector_zero,

I’ve ridden one before. They’re fun, but I’m happier with my car.

theKalash,

Wtf kind of markings are those even?

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Didn’t even notice, what the fuck is going on there?

cokane_88,
@cokane_88@lemmy.world avatar

Handicap parking, it’s the extra space meant for a side loading ramp.

theKalash,

it’s the extra space meant for a side loading ramp.

Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

LazaroFilm,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Do you know he wasn’t disabled? Those tricycles are often used by people who can’t ride a bike anymore but still want bugs in their teeth.

Viking_Hippie,

It’s not IN the disabled spot though, it’s next to it.

Rivalarrival,

I’m assuming he is disabled. It looks like there are three marked handicap spaces. The way you want him to park, two additional vehicles with side ramps could park. A total of 3 handicap vehicles, 2 with side ramps.

The way he actually parked, two vehicles with side ramps could park (both utilizing the other ramp space, one pulling in, the other backing in), and another handicapped space is still available for a vehicle without side ramps, which are the overwhelming majority of handicapped vehicles. A total of 4 handicap vehicles, 2 with side ramps.

Now, I admit, my arithmetic skills were developed before the era of “New Math”, so they might have changed it since. But when I learned it, “4” was greater than “3”.

hemko,

F150 of motorcycles

betwixthewires,

In some States those are motorcycle parking. That thing is a motorcycle, or so the owner desperately wants to believe.

hemko,

It’s funny how these are motorcycles, but the trikes with 2 wheels on back are registered as cars

randon31415,

It’s not nice making fun of the mentally handicapped.

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