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Kinga, in ISW's analysis of Wagner's (halted) advance on Moscow

What if the coup was actually successful and there will be a power transfer? Nobody half asses a coup and lives to tell the tale

Abigail, in Prigozhin says his forces "are turning our columns around," amid claims of deal brokered by Lukashenko
@Abigail@kbin.social avatar

What could the deal possibly entail that would make them immediately turn back? So curious

LostCause, (edited )

I’ve read a rumor on Mastodon that it was resignation of Shoigu, amnesty for all wagnerites and a return to fight in Africa instead of Ukraine. Just a rumor though as the source was I think some Wagner Telegram which is sketchy to say the least. It sounds somewhat plausible, though even if true, I‘m not sure Luka could really guarantee any of that or Putin would not order them dead anyway.

Edit: found another mention of the sketchy rumor so here is a link https://mastodon.social/@ParanoidFactoid/110600884157150573

Looks even sketchier seeing it the second time lol. Well we will see, if it can be confirmed it’ll show up in the news eventually.

yogthos,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Staying alive is a big motivator for most people.

Kaiser,
@Kaiser@lemmy.world avatar

"An agreement was reached on the return of PMC Wagner to their locations. Part of those who will wish to do so, will sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense — this concerns those who did not take part in the march, indeed, there were such formations which, from the very beginning, changed their minds and returned. They even requested to be escorted by the traffic police and other assistance in order to return to their permanent locations,"

ghariksforge, in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes

When I look at Modi I see another Erdogan

herrwoland,

My exact thoughts, certainly a similarity between the two

archpaladin1,
@archpaladin1@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Or Viktor Orbán.

Elindio,

Or Trump Or Bolsonaro

It's been a trend across the world, and I have to think Russia has thrown fuel on the fire with disinformation campaigns in all those cases

RoboRay, in Wagner returns back to base Prigozhin: "We're turning our convoys around and going back."
@RoboRay@kbin.social avatar

Worst revolution ever.

tom, in I feel really upset about the US Attack on Iran.

What attack? (Sincere question)

abc123,

This is a 3 year old post apparently

tom,

Oh wow, you’re right. I’m not used to that being possible here!

GarbageShootAlt2, in The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes

Says “World’s largest democracy” but it’s not about the PRC? India, unlike China, actually has something resembling pogroms against Muslims.

nadir,

Because the PRC is not a democracy?

Skyrmir,

PRC has fewer people, regardless of it’s political structure.

GarbageShootAlt2,

PRC still has very slightly more, as far as I can tell. About 20 million more, 1.40something billion vs 1.42something billion.

Elindio,
GarbageShootAlt2,

Who gave you the opinion that the PRC is less of a democracy than India?

nadir,

Who gave you the impression that the PRC is a democracy at all?

GarbageShootAlt2,

Now now, I asked you first ;)

But I would say that it was mainly the Chinese people who gave me that impression with their consistent and overwhelming approval of their government, and their majority view that it is indeed democratic. I know that any such heterodox claims will be dismissed out of hand, but I’ll still give you a shot.

certain_people, in Ukraine managed to gain ground in Ukraine as Russia faced off against Russia in Russia

How's that for a title

Omgarm,

Russia really fucked Russia.

Klear,

Damn Russians! They ruined Russia!

someguy3,

You Russians sure are a contentious people.

Aikawa,

You just made an enemy for life!

jon,
@jon@kbin.social avatar

You Russians sure are a contentious people.

D-ISS-O-CIA-TED,

Title straight from The Onion

TurboRotary,

/m/titlegore

ShesDayDreaming, in Prigozhin says his forces "are turning our columns around," amid claims of deal brokered by Lukashenko
@ShesDayDreaming@kbin.social avatar

I wonder what was said in the meeting because wager was steam rolling. It smells like it was preplanned with the Russian state

SpaceCowboy,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

People say this, but how does any of this benefit Russia?

jay91, in OceanGate listed job posting for ‘submersible pilot’ during doomed Titan rescue efforts
@jay91@lemmy.ml avatar

I think its the time to post somthing for the position of the CEO.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Submersible Repairman?

FlyLikeAMouse, in Wagner agrees to end ‘insurrection’ – Lukashenko (Belarus' President) [RT]

Disappointing. Especially seeing that this dude will be royally fucked as soon as the angry midget gets hold of him.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
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Would you love an insurrection of UK as well?

I_Miss_Daniel, in OceanGate listed job posting for ‘submersible pilot’ during doomed Titan rescue efforts
@I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social avatar

OceanGateGate?

quaddo,

I pointed out the whole 'Gate' coincidence to my wife just last night.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Oh, shit. What if the whole company was founded with the intention of turning into a scandal!? The plot thickens.

Iconoclast, in Prigozhin says his forces "are turning our columns around," amid claims of deal brokered by Lukashenko

This could have been an email.

LostCause,

I just asked Chat GPT to write this lol it turned out super wordy, but made me laugh to imagine that.

Subject: Resignation and Relocation: Charting a New Course

Dear President Putin,

I hope this email finds you in good health and high spirits. With a heavy heart, I write to tender my resignation as the head of Wagner, effective immediately. Please allow me to explain the reasoning behind this decision and outline my future plans.

Throughout my tenure at Wagner, it has been an immense honor to lead our dedicated mercenaries in service to our beloved country. Together, we have undertaken countless missions, safeguarding our nation's interests. However, recent developments have given rise to an increasing misalignment with the Russian generals, most notably Defense Minister Shoigu. This misalignment has significantly impeded my ability to contribute effectively, causing a sense of professional disillusionment.

In light of these circumstances, I have made the decision to relocate to Belarus, a nation that has captured my attention with its unique prospects and conducive environment. This move represents an opportunity for personal rejuvenation and the exploration of new horizons.

Although I am stepping down as the head of Wagner, I want to assure you of my unwavering dedication to our shared cause. Consequently, I have chosen to leave behind a select group of highly capable and devoted mercenaries who may be interested in joining the esteemed ranks of the Russian military. I trust that, under the guidance of the current leadership, they will continue to excel and make significant contributions to our collective goals.

I am deeply grateful for the support and guidance you have provided me throughout my tenure at Wagner. Your unwavering commitment to our nation's well-being has served as a constant inspiration. I am confident that under your astute leadership, Russia will continue to flourish and thrive.

I kindly request your understanding and approval of my resignation, along with any necessary arrangements that may be required during this transitional phase. This email serves as my formal notification, and I am prepared to provide any additional information or assistance as necessary.

Once again, I express my heartfelt appreciation for the opportunities entrusted to me and the confidence you have placed in my abilities. It has been an extraordinary journey, and I look forward to embracing new challenges and opportunities with a sense of anticipation and optimism.

Thank you for your attention, President Putin.

Yours sincerely,

Yevgeny Prigozhin
Former Head of Wagner

nexusband, in PARIS Greta Thunberg speaks about repression of protest (Summit for a new global financial pact)
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

She should talk to China directly. Also - she has made absolutely zero suggestions on how to actually do something against it, except basically stopping life.

rycee,

I'm pretty sure it is not her personal responsibility to solve the climate crisis on the behalf of the rest of humanity. That would probably be best left to various subject matter experts, which I believe she has said many times.

alwaysconfused,

Agreed. It seems all too common for people to think that those who point out issues are also responsible to have immediate solutions ready to go.

It’s necessary to have issues pointed out so that we, collectively, can discuss the issues to work towards potential solutions. This world and all that humanity has created is far too complex to expect one person to do all the work.

If the expectation of a person who points out problems is to have the answer, then no conversation is being held. Instead we are just shifting blame and responsibility while continuing on a flawed or destructive path.

hackerwacker, in NYC Council has passed a resolution calling for an end to the US Blockade on Cuba

Rules-based order

azimir, in Wagner returns back to base Prigozhin: "We're turning our convoys around and going back."

Perhaps this isn’t the coup just yet. Most likely his attempts to rally the Russian military to his side failed and it’s possible that he was offered some kind of deal to not be arrested/killed if he waved off now.

How he was going to hold Moscow with less than 20k troops (assuming some peeled off on the march for various duties), I didn’t know. It’s a huge city and 20k troops would be a small footprint once you spread them out over such a large metro area. Maybe waving off at this point was all part of the expected brinksmanship he’s been playing with the head of the Russian MoD?

Interesting times in Russia!

SlowNPC,
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it’s possible that he was offered some kind of deal

It's been reported that Lukashenko (of Belarus) brokered a deal. I haven't seen any further details.

roofuskit,
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Rumor only, part of the deal was he answers directly to Putin only. He no longer answers to the ministry of defense.

xuxebiko,

and to seal the deal, Putin has invited Prigozhin and his top leadership to tea.

TomHardy,
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Putin passes you a cup of tea. Do you accept? o.0

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