bionicjoey,

Canada Geese have no honour

SlikPikker,

Lesser Swans

DragonTypeWyvern,

Did we ever get an explanation for why they’re “Birds of Prey” and not “Raptors?”

Is it culturally important to Klingons that you say the whole phrase?

Stamets, (edited )
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You know, I am unsure about that and now I’m curious. I’m gonna look into it and I’ll let you know if I find anything!


So the answer is just incredibly simple and kinda disappointing. Raptor wasn’t used as often as Bird of Prey during the 60s. That’s it. However @wombatula (fucking amazing name) is right. There is a Raptor-Class that I knew absolutely nothing about at the time.

wombatula,

afaik it’s only appeared in that regrettable Enterprise episode with the Klingons, I’m not entirely certain but I’ve got faith of the heart that is correct.

Stamets,
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From what I saw on the Memory Alpha page, you’re correct. However it still be canon!

wombatula,

“Bird of Prey” is a classification of light warship used by both the Romulan and Klingon forces, the smaller version of a “Warbird” class ship.

It is not culturally important to them, anymore than a “Galaxy Class” or “Class III Neutronic Carrier” would be to a human/federation race.

DragonTypeWyvern,

So why don’t the translators call them Raptors?

wombatula,

Because “Raptor” is another class of ship, even smaller than a “Bird of Prey”, used mainly as a scout ship by the Klingons.

Sorry to ruin your “gotcha” moment.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Uh huh.

Which do you think was introduced to the canon first?

And what is the difference in Klingon between a Raptor and a Bird of Prey? Or do they simply go on context?

wombatula,

I literally just told you, size. You can go look up the exact ship specifications if you want, the Raptor is a small scout ship, the BoP is a mid-size warship, and the Warbird is a full-sized warship.

Also what are you even talking about, what came into canon first? Of course the Bird of Prey, its from ToS, I do not understand how that is relevant to the discussion.

Ensign_Crab,

If you have a problem with Canada Gooses, you are without honor. And I suggest you let that one marinate.

swab148,

T’b’faiiiiirrrr

GaiusGornicusCaesar,
NumbersCanBeFun,
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  • Stamets,
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    Same! Apparently geese hate toes. Who knew? Maybe they’re trying to web ours together?

    sundrei,
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    “This… is a warrior’s bird.”

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