I was overjoyed to learn everyone at my new job uses Signal… Apparently we can even install the desktop app on our work laptops, but I won’t go that far.
So you’re mad because people don’t want to download another app and create another account, and generalizing a whole generation because they don’t want to use signal? You’re just bitter.
The generalization is odd, but they don’t want to download another app either. I really hope federation and such is the future just for things like this alone.
There’s no bitterness going on here, it’s probably easy to generalize the people who use Facebook apps especially when they instantly come back saying X app sucks in a rude way.
For me is that there are so many chat apps now, and each is not really that better than the next one.
I had to download telegram because a group of people told me the government or whatever reads the whatsapp conversation, but what are people conversating about that they need to keep it a secret?
“Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” - Edward Snowden
local man on privacy community doesn’t understand privacy
When you take a shit you expect privacy don’t you? Why don’t you expect the same from Meta when you use Instagram? Just cus it’s free with ads, means they can stalk you? To me that is unjust, and most of us here, which is why we use apps like signal and try to maintain our privacy, even when corporations will not.
Uhhh THAT’S a broad brush… I use it, and I’m as far lefty left as left liberal can be, and my family is the same. And none of us are pedophiles to my knowledge.
I can understand OP’s desire to not plaster one’s entire living situation on a public forum. The startling lack of privacy awareness among people in general is frightening. In the 60’s there were actual riots over wiretaps on public phones!
Now we ask the wiretaps that we pay to put in our homes: “hey Alexa, can cats eat pancakes?”
It was a good in between step for non technical users to use it as their singular texting app. So while they still SMS with the unwashed masses, they could still be convinced to do encrypted texts and group chats with others. Doing away with SMS forced all these people off Signal since they didn’t want to jump between 2 apps, it was a huge misstep by them that I think cost them their future.
Pretty normal reaction after the announcement that Signal got rid of SMS support. A bunch of folks I used to talk to read that and ditched Signal entirely for FB Chat.
They had a good blog post about why - their take was that SMS is dying and the replacement was a moving target that was hard to support for reasons I’m forgetting. I agree it hurt them tremendously though.
Probably a lot. I was very annoyed myself, though it made android pretty similar to the situation on iOS where you can’t replace the default messaging app anyway.
It’s an area where I think we need a bunch of stuff:
Antitrust regulation to force companies to use open standards and allow customization
Folks like the Signal Foundation should get over themselves and run their project like a real open source project, where others can fork/modify/run both the server side and client side.
There’s so much anti-competitive bullshit regarding #1 from all sides, from carriers to Apple to Google to device manufacturers.
How do I convince my family to move onto Signal? We’re missing half the family in the group chat because some of us use Android. BTW, they don’t give a crap about privacy and they know about the Subpoena signal got and are worried looking like criminals.
It is ironic that you call a Proprietary Data Harvester Platform User “Friendly”. Well forget users. Meta even collects data of non users to top off the grimness.
User friendliness =/= Privacy friendly. What I mean is that everybody there (aside from the linux kid) is comfortable with the app. More than goddamn signal…
I really do not see any logical basis that makes you separate privacy friendliness from User Friendliness. If a platform wishes to be user friendly, privacy is also one of the fundamental rights of a user the platform needs to take care of for it to be considered friendly to a user.
The fact that a lot of people, not ‘everybody’, are comfortable with Instagram has no strong points to consolidate your own position. It only describes how good the horrible marketting of Giant Tech Corporations is at entrapping millions of people into using it, generating life long addictions and the eventual wastage of time on degenerate culture. While the Corporations collect all that data available to them to further their own Capitalist interests.
Privacy does come at a cost and compromise. A slightly less funkier UI for a far more secure platform, for essentially 0 cost is a lot one could ask for, especially when you are comparing a Libre project made by a small organization to a proprietary project made by a Multi Billionaire MNC.
I will not be apologetic in saying that you are the child here who is tailing the mass of consumers without proper analysis.
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