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Hikermick, in OotL: What is with the Russian Wagner group.

Shit is about to hit the fan. The Wagner mercenary group has been far more successful in fighting the Ukrainians than the regular Russian army. Their leader Prigozhin has been complaining openly about the lack of ammunition and weapons from Russia and now he claims Russian military leaders have been calling in artillery strikes against his men. Now he says he’s headed to Moscow to kick their asses. He’s always been tight with Putin and isn’t threatening him but if reports are correct Putin is calling him a traitor and is siding with his generals. All of this is happening as Ukraine is poised to launch a counteroffensive. If all of what seems to happening is true and isn’t an elaborate distraction/disinformation scheme then it couldn’t happen at a worse time for Putin. Also worth noting is Prigozhin has been claiming Russian military brass mislead Putin into going to war by lying about the the threat Ukraine and NATO posed. There has been speculation for quite awhile that a weakened Putin could be vulnerable to an overthrow by the mercenary groups working for him such as Wagner. What this could mean for world political dynamics is anybody’s guess.

PanaX, in Poop challenge =???

It’s an emergent environment ideal. We consume so many living organisms, the least we can do, is to leave some in the chute and extract everything from it before expelling it. Otherwise, we’re just a pipeline of ecological destruction.

/s

VoxAdActa, in OotL: What is this poop thing all of a sudden?
@VoxAdActa@kbin.social avatar

A guy who's totally not a drug mule and/or totally not wearing a butt plug for kink purposes asked for advice on how to go on some kind of walking expedition that's totally not a hiking trip with a group of unspecified people for three days without having to take a shit at the totally available bathroom facilities they'd pass along the way. He's unable to elaborate on anything for reasons that totally have nothing to do with implicating themselves in criminal activities and/or pissing off their Dom/me.

Candelestine, in OotL: What is this poop thing all of a sudden?

Answer: Usually a person is supposed to get past that over the course of normal childhood. I know this isn’t reddit, but I would still advise talking to a licensed therapist about this issue.

Canic, in OotL: What is this poop thing all of a sudden?

There was a post over on lemmy.ml that gained some meme traction last night. OP wanted advice for not pooping for 3 days but refused to elaborate.

Here's the link if you want to check it for yourself:

https://lemmy.ml/post/1450855

Ciari, in Poop challenge =???
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MiddleWeigh, in Poop challenge =???
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

Someone asked how best to go about not pooping for 3 days. I think on asklemmy. It’s become lemmy lore.

Sorry I forget the context, something about being around people and or bathroom availability.

rob_t_firefly, in OotL: What is this poop thing all of a sudden?
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

It's what's left over after your body has extracted all the water and nutrients it can from food you've eaten.

CapitalismsRefugee,

All of it?

csolisr, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?

The biggest problem I'm aware of is that the lead developers of Lemmy the software are also the administrators of Lemmygrad. Which makes separating the art from the artist very difficult.

0485919158191, in OotL: Sudden Titanic References
@0485919158191@lemmy.world avatar

Source

The company OceanGate have constructed a DIY submersible, that’s not been tested, regulated, checked, or certified.

The CEO of the company and four civilian passengers have gone on this submersible on an expedition to the Titanic wreck.

They’ve since lost contact with the crew. The oxygen is calculated to run out today.

It’s a huge rescue operation.

Guy_Fieris_Hair, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?

A few days ago the Lemmy devs made an update here: join-lemmy.org/…/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_a…

In that update about half way through they aknowlage that everyone thinks they are tankies, deny it, and refer people to the about lemmy page here: join-lemmy.org/docs/…/07-history-of-lemmy.html

The about lemmy page they have some very strong political views that are anti-usa media. (Most of which, I as an American agree with) . None of this really answers your question, I’m sure there’s more to it I don’t know. But maybe provides some context.

I am tentatively here for the ride. 🤷‍♂️. They run lemmy.ml, and by design if I am not on lemmy.ml, they don’t have control over what I see, say, or do. They can have their own views, it does seem strange to put them at the forefront of the entire project though. And if they are the devs it seems they could push an update to nuke everything if they wanted. Idk what the context is to the whole thing.

Widget,

They're extremely pro-China. They deny the Uyghur genocide, by saying it's just as real as "white genocide". It's mostly criticisms that I would say are valid except that mixing in the Chinese propaganda kinda spoils the whole thing.

My expectation is that some people will just use it as an excuse because they actually enjoy Reddit turning into 9gag with NFTs. If it really becomes an issue, Lemmy will be forked, and new devs will lead it.

(There's also still kbin.)

ArugulaZ,
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

Guess I made the right move when I picked kbin. I don't need to find out that the NEXT social network I use is run by political extremist jagoffs.

Widget,

There's also not really any penalty for making extra accounts at different servers. I signed up for both kbin and lemmy.world before I settled on kbin.

azuth,

They don’t run the social network, they run part of it, lemmy.ml.

Which you actually are federated to in kbin.social just like I am at lemmy.world. Meaning you interact with their users and communities.

This is the whole point of fediverse, nobody exclusively runs it and gets to do whatever the fuck they want with it. They can do whatever they want on their part of the network but if it starts affecting other parts (instances like lemmy.world) they can just cut them off without losing any functionality.

I also expect many many more people contributing to the development of this project as it picks up users. It’s necessary, not for political reasons but because the original development team is actually pretty small.

Guy_Fieris_Hair,

They are the devs that program it all. If this blows up in a way they don’t like they could push an update that nukes the whole thing, no?

SYLOH,

It’s open source and not centrally run. So they can’t really “push an update” and even if they could, it would be quite easy to revert and continue development in a different direction.

sangle_of_flame,
@sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world avatar

instances aren’t forced to update, however

if the update nukes an instance, most instances probably just won’t update (and someone’s likely to fork the lemmy source code)

spirit,

On another topic, there are rumors circulating that we are fascists or supported genocide. These claims are completely false, and like most viral twitter threads, are coming from a single Mastodon user on a personal vendetta who didn’t provide any sources.

Well, they denied to be fascists or support genocide, without denying being “tankies”. I don’t know how they would respond to such claims, but I did found out that one of the developer did (or do?) hold “tankie” views. See lemmy.world/comment/311333 and lemmy.world/comment/329485 for more.

Donjuanme, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?

I think they (the people who say that) have either: an innocent fundamental misunderstanding about how the site works, a stubbornness about trying something new and strawmanning it sight unseen, or a malicious intent to keep users from migrating to a new platform (so they can continue to demonize the other to their audience on the current platform).

Something this platform offers is the ability to create your own platform, and integrate it with other hosts as you see fit, along with excising hosts that put out content you do not want to see (this can even be the “designers” community).

Terberlo, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?
@Terberlo@lemmy.one avatar

Just my $0.02 Back in ~2020, the only Lemmy instances which had activity were the ones that people flocked to when their Subreddit was shutdown. It went something like:

1 - Group sets up a hateful Subreddit 2 - Group members begin to repeatedly violate Reddit’s TOS 3 - Reddit bans the Subreddit 4 - Some groups had enough cohesion to send their subscribers to a Lemmy instance to try and salvage the situation

As a result, when I joined the Mastadon Fediverse in 2021, I heard the rumors about “Lemmy is only used by people who were banned by reddit. That’s why it’s only Tankies there.”

VenoraTheBarbarian, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?

From what I understand Lemmy was created by people who support Russia, China, etc. But if we avoided all platforms run by people we disagree with there’d be no platforms left.

At the end of the day there are many servers, each with their own vibe and values. You can just pick one that doesn’t ick you out. (Not YOU you, whoever is wary of Lemmy)

cryptosporidium140, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?

Before the Reddit mass migration it was a lot more obvious. lemmygrad was like the largest instance of lemmy and the defense of the Ukraine invasion was crazy. There were also a few of these people posting nonstop, such as Yogthos (spelled with different characters). You might still be able to find his posts in politicalhumor

danc4498,

This is what I figured. When I signed up I was a bit grossed out by how prominent that instance was.

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