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TheOneCurly, in ...what's with the "rule" posts?
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I had to look this up too after they started blowing up the feeds on every instance. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=r%2F196

It appears to be a popular general meme community where everyone must post something, so there’s a lot of content.

BLAMM67,
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Beat me to it. Was just typing up an answer.

Goldenderp,

Huh, TIL! Thank you

WaterSword,
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It’s considered a very lgbtq+ friendly community, and it announced closing entirely in the wake of the Reddit blackout, so a lot of its members have come here to Lemmy.

FaceDeer,
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Oh oh, I visited it and didn't post anything. I broke the rule.

In my defence, I was hopelessly confused.

sol, in ...what's with the "rule" posts?
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It’s the posters stating that they’re posting to obey the rule of those communities. Something along the lines of having to post an image from your device if you end up browsing there.

VoidCrow,
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I thought it was also in reference to a previous subreddit that I think was named 195, that had no rules but ended up being bigoted and such. So when 196 was made, a much more progressive/leftwing version, all they technically post are rules (hence the post titles) to further clown on that previous sub

sol,
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My knowledge of reddit lore isn’t deep enough to dispute that but I just wanted to say that you have an excellent username.

VoidCrow,
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Aw thx :D

bappity, in OotL: What happened with Elon Musk? And Twitter?
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  • He made some rather unsavoury remarks to a British cave diver “Vernon Unsworth” on Twitter after Unsworth criticized his proposal to rescue the trapped Thai soccer team with a mini-submarine.
    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5025e693-1160-4a0c-98e3-19fd5f940bf7.png(tweet above now deleted)

  • He has a trans daughter that applied to change her name and gender and reportedly said she wanted nothing to do with him… In my opinion, for her to have backed out of a chance of inheriting a lot of money, they must’ve had a pretty bad relationship. He’s posted stuff like “pronouns suck” on twitter and rolled back a policy protecting trans users from misgendering/deadnaming.

  • He mocked a disabled former Twitter employee, Haraldur Thorleifsson, who has muscular dystrophy and uses a wheelchair, in a series of tweets on March 7, 2023 Thorleifsson had tweeted at Musk to ask if he was still employed at Twitter, after he lost access to his work computer along with 200 others. Musk accused him of doing no actual work, claiming a disability that prevented him from typing, and seeking a big payout 2 He also posted emojis and a link to a scene from Office Space to ridicule him.

  • Most recently he locked access to twitter unless you have an account and are logged into it and also added rate limits to the amount of posts you’re allowed to read per day.

    apologies for the mix of news site sources and if my text is a bit too long/nonsensical at points, can’t guarantee the credibility of the sites and I never post stuff this long. these are just some of the things he’s done to piss people off.

mephiska,

Don’t forget most recently tweeted “cisgender is a slur”.

bappity,
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oh god how could I forget… the guy is an all round joke of a human being.

Mothra,
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Okay that’s impressive. So basically the same brand of wealth and social filters Trump has. Perhaps worse, I’m not sure. Far out

Jo,
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He mocked a disabled former Twitter employee, Haraldur Thorleifsson, who has muscular dystrophy and uses a wheelchair, in a series of tweets on March 7, 2023 Thorleifsson had tweeted at Musk to ask if he was still employed at Twitter, after he lost access to his work computer along with 200 others. Musk accused him of doing no actual work, claiming a disability that prevented him from typing, and seeking a big payout 2 He also posted emojis and a link to a scene from Office Space to ridicule him.

Just to add to this, Thorleifsson had sold his company to Twitter but taken the payout as a salaried job so that he paid full taxes on it. The big payout if Musk sacked him was part of the deal to buy the company. Musk is willfully ignorant for every possible meaning of the term.

confluence, in OotL: What happened with Elon Musk? And Twitter?

Elon was for many years socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but he’s shifting to social conservative views.

When his money started getting touched by law and democratic oversight, he was helped by conservative politicians. One of his tweets got him fired as the Tesla CEO, and he’s been bitching about the SEC ever since (his tweet misrepresented something and he made a lot of profit from it).

He didn’t end up wanting to buy Twitter after promising he would, and he seemed stuck and frustrated. The GOP was also frustrated by the community standards of Twitter. Then Robert Murdoch spends the Superbowl in a private box with Elon, and suddenly Elon’s got the money to buy Twitter, the GOP is being given a loud voice to push misinformation, the Republicans are going after the SEC on Elon’s behalf, and signing bills that unequally benefit Elon’s profits. In exchange, the GOP has an incredible propaganda machine.

These are the individual data I’m noticing, and if my narrative can be disputed by some datum, please let me know.

Mothra,
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I see. I’m starting to put together the pieces of the puzzle. Not a pretty picture wow

tonamel, in OotL: What happened with Elon Musk? And Twitter?

There was a popular tweet that went around for a bit, that said something along the lines of "When Musk started SpaceX and people called him a genius, I believed them because I don't know anything about how space programs work. When people said he was a genius for his work at Tesla, I believed them because I don't know anything about cars. Now he owns Twitter, and I know programming and the things he's doing are the dumbest things I've ever seen, which makes me think twice about his space program and cars."

Basically, he managed to get followers because he focused on niche technology and hey, he's rich so he must know what he's doing. But then he started saying things more and more publicly, culminating with the takeover and ruination of Twitter, and people finally saw him for who he actually is, because he was in control of something that affected them directly, and handling it terribly.

acquiescence, in OotL: What happened with Elon Musk? And Twitter?

Don’t have the source with me now, I’ll link it tomorrow if I remember, but there were people trapped in some underwater cave. Musk proposed a silly way to rescue, one of the members leading the rescue rejected his idea, and musk called him a pedophile in retaliation. His true colours showed from there.

He apparently had some sort of affair with Amber heard while she was still with Depp too.

BackOnMyBS, in OotL: What is with the Russian Wagner group.
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Note: This is a developing story. My response will likely be edited as news comes out and the progression of events becomes clearer.

Last update: 6/26/23 @ 1650 EST

Russia invaded Ukraine in Feb 2022 on what the world overwhelmingly believes are false pretenses. The arguments were that Ukraine was taken over by nazis and that the country was actually supposed to be part of Russia, not sovereign. The world thought it was going to be a quick war, but Ukraine fought really hard with economic, intelligence, and military-equipment support of the West. Russia severely overestimated its military might, particularly its training and logistics. What was expected to be a quick invasion turned into a long war of attrition.

To help with the war, Putin hired a group of mercenaries he had previously helped build into world prominence. This allowed Russia to commit military objectives and behaviors that would otherwise be considered illegal for the Russian government to accomplish. The mercenaries are called the Wagner Group and have been more effective at accomplishing military goals in Ukraine than the regular Russian military. The Wagner Group grew up to ~50k troops, with most leaders being skilled and experienced military veterans while lower-ranks had Russian prisoners fighting for their freedom. This group is known for committing horrible war crimes, and the leader of the group is widely accepted as a terrible person.

The leader of the Wagner Group is called Yevgeny Prigozhin. He has been vocal about the management of the invasion of Ukraine and at odds with Russia’s Ministry of Defense leadership, something that is in part a result of how Putin likes to run Russia: pinning his subordinates against each other. Another tactic that Putin uses is to place relatively powerless people in powerful positions. This make sit hard for the to topple him because they lack elite political connections to do so. Prigozhin was a criminal that started a hot dog street vending business, made a restaurant change out of it, and then became Putin’s chef. The person he assigned to Minister of Defense was a also of “low status” as a person from the countryside and minority ethnicity. In line with his approach, Putin pitted the Minister of Defense (Shoigu) and Prigozhin against each other to prevent military forces from toppling him. This, along with their “low status” history, ensured neither accumulated too much power because if one started getting too powerful, the other would take them down.

Back to the war and recent events, the Ukrainians make a stand at the Ukranian city of Bakhmut. Russia assigns Wagner to take the city. The ferocity of Ukrainian fighters caused Wagner to take heavy loses. During this battle, the Russian military coincidentally did not provide Wagner the supplies they were requesting, leaving them in need while fighting their battle. On at least one occasion, the Russian military promised to give him the supplies, to then not deliver them. Prigozhin, frustrated with the way he and his forces are being treated by the Russian military, trades the city of Bakhmut with Ukrine for intel on the locations of high-ranking Russian military officers. Towards the end of the battle, Russian forces attempted to swoop in and take partial victory for taking the city. Additionally, Prigozhin claims that his forces were purposefully attacked by Russian military, losing several men to the attack. Around or after the battle of Bakhmut in which Wagner loss a lot of men, Putin announced that the remaining Wagner Forces will be absorbed by the Russian military. Prigozhin objects to the deal and insists that he replace the Russian MoD (Shoigu). Putin declines the request, and the following happened within the last week, bit mostly over two days.

  1. Prigozhin took Wagner forces out of Ukraine, abandoning their missions, and into Russia
  2. Wagner Group invaded and took control of the Russian city Rostov-on-Don. This city is the hub from which Russian forces would support Ukraine invasion missions. Prigozhin seemed to have support from the city population, which was disseminated on media. Consequently, the Russian military lost their invasion hub.
  3. Prigozhin went on media to tell the world, including the Russian civilian population, that the invasion of Ukraine was based on lies and that the Russian military is a clusterfudge. This indirectly but clearly and openly questioned Putin’s leadership. This also directly outed Putin as a liar since he is the one that has been promoting the reasons for the invasion of Ukraine.
  4. Russian military forces also lit an oil depot on fire to prevent Wagner from getting more fuel. This means that Russians destroyed access to their own fuel supply.
  5. Prigozhin charged at Moscow with ~5k troops at impressive pace. Throughout the way, he barely met any resistance from Russian military. In fact, some cheered him on. However, Wagner forces did shoot down ~7 Russian aircraft and killed ~12 Russian service members throughout this mutiny. Wagner forces had no difficulty overcoming the very minor Russian military resistance that occurred.
  6. Putin poorly prepared Moscow for a siege by activating local police & military, shutting down internet, calling Monday a day off, and placing rudimentary military checkpoints outside of Moscow.
  7. Putin went on national TV and called Wagner forces treasonous mutineers as enemy of the state and declared that they will be prosecuted.
  8. Putin left Moscow for safety via plane, leaving the city to fend for itself and implying that it could not withstand the siege.
  9. Putin called several country leaders for support, to include Iran, China, Kazakhstan, and Belarus. China and Kazakhstan both publicly declined support and stated that the issue was internal to Russia. The leader of Belarus brokered a deal between Prigozhin and Putin.
  10. Wagner forces made it to 200 km outside of Moscow nearly completely unscathed.
  11. Prigozhin then left to Belarus. As of 6/26/23 @ 1630 EST, no one has seen or heard from either Prigozhin or Putin since, though the Russian presidential airplane has back in Moscow since at least 6/25 @ 1500 EST.

The deal:

  • Prigozhin is exiled to Belarus with immunity.
  • Wagner forces that participated in the mutiny will have immunity from prosecution.
  • Wagner forces that did not participate in the mutiny will be absorbed by the Russian military.
  • Surely, there’s a lot that we don’t know

So, WTH? because this is wild!

  • Russia almost went into a civil war while it was invading Ukraine.
  • The premise for the war was outed as a lie by the most effective military leader of the war.
  • Said leader committed a mutiny using his troops and was charged on TV
  • The mercenary group was abandoned in Russia to be absorbed by the very military they were fighting with/against
  • Everyone saw Putin on TV scared and implicitly pleading for the mutiny to stop
  • Putin called several other countries begging for help, some of which declined to help. The one that did help is generally considered a puppet and ineffective, so Putin was saved by someone with a poor reputation and little to no international power.
  • Moscow was almost under siege by its own men.
  • Russia lost the organization of its most effective troops (Wagner Group)
  • Russia has been outed as being incredibly vulnerable to military attack
  • Russian troops heard that they are fighting for a lie and at the very least acquiesced to a mutiny

Everyone on the world stage is still waiting. This is something that will have severe repercussions for Russia and indirectly Ukraine and the world. It’s like a season finale of Game of Thrones. The big event just happened, and we got left on a cliffhanger. The resolution will likely be played out slowly over the next season, but expect crazy things to continue to happen though not as intense as the build up to a civil war in a nuclear power over 2 days.

Mothra,
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thanks for this reply. I understand the situation much better now!

ComeHereOrIHookYou, in Did i miss something?
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Some troll got banned and now creating random communities as a form of petty revenge attack. Temporary fix at the moment is to go to lemmy.world/settings and uncheck Show NSFW

ekZepp,
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😐 … Naaaa, i’m good.

ekZepp, in Did i miss something?
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Kenny, in Did i miss something?

@LMAO is being childish and wants to spam the site.

RomanRoy, in What’s the deal with lemmy.world and beehaw?
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Beehaw is meant to be a safe space, mitigating toxicity, while other instances, by having registration open to all without moderation, causes that.

By being federated, they can interact with one another. Beehaw defederated them in order to avoid that. The main argument being that the modding tools right now aren’t good enough to help them do it any other way.

yenahmik,

That’s a bummer. I really liked Beehaw but wasn’t able to sign up for whatever reason, which is why I signed up here. Sucks that hateful jerks can ruin it for everyone.

BackOnMyBS,
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Sucks that hateful jerks can ruin it for everyone.

The history of humanity

Ufo_kid, in Royal family

brits. amirite.

flip, in OotL: Sudden Titanic References
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There was a private tour to the titanic that ended in 5 people dead. You can read up more here: wiki.slipfox.xyz/wiki/Titan_(submersible)?lang=en

//Edit: This community did not fully federate and I did not see the comments, sorry!

Naura, in OotL: What's the deal with people claiming Lemmy as a whole supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), dictatorships, denies genocides, etc?

Well the whole point is that no one person “owns” this to push an agenda to the entire fediverse. Each server is its own and connected by this software. It’s like Reddit broken into 1000000 pieces and held together by this software. If you want to ban something within your server you are free to do so. Is a server fucking toxic? Then you don’t connect.

Star Trek has their own server up and running already and it’s Startrek.website. It isn’t connected so if they decide that haters should be banned, it will just be locally.

Hikermick, in OotL: What is with the Russian Wagner group.

Shit is about to hit the fan. The Wagner mercenary group has been far more successful in fighting the Ukrainians than the regular Russian army. Their leader Prigozhin has been complaining openly about the lack of ammunition and weapons from Russia and now he claims Russian military leaders have been calling in artillery strikes against his men. Now he says he’s headed to Moscow to kick their asses. He’s always been tight with Putin and isn’t threatening him but if reports are correct Putin is calling him a traitor and is siding with his generals. All of this is happening as Ukraine is poised to launch a counteroffensive. If all of what seems to happening is true and isn’t an elaborate distraction/disinformation scheme then it couldn’t happen at a worse time for Putin. Also worth noting is Prigozhin has been claiming Russian military brass mislead Putin into going to war by lying about the the threat Ukraine and NATO posed. There has been speculation for quite awhile that a weakened Putin could be vulnerable to an overthrow by the mercenary groups working for him such as Wagner. What this could mean for world political dynamics is anybody’s guess.

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