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secondaccountlemmy, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

Yeah… Cant provide an answer why probably ads. I had very good search terms and it should be the first hit but it just resulted in crap. Currently using duckduckgo and i got the first link that i was searching for correctly. Not looking back anymore.

gamebuster, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

It’s because of money. Google is a place where you can find the least irrelevant ad for your search query.

djmarcone,

I wonder if their CIA money has dried up, maybe funds are tight and they’re forcing the algorithm for all it’s worth. Sorta like how spez is burning reddit to the ground trying to maximize the metrics for the ipo or whatever.

Kolanaki, in What's going on with Google's search engine?
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All of a sudden? It’s been terrible for at least 10 years now. I have about 5 or 6 FireFox extensions just to make Google not suck.

Noodle07,

Funny how much better google is when you block any Pinterest answer

TwoGems, (edited ) in What's going on with Google's search engine?
@TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

Ribbit

kemsat, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

I’ve mostly been using DuckDuckGo for the last few years so I haven’t noticed. I mostly only use Google for Google Translate & YouTube.

mariom,
@mariom@lemmy.world avatar

deepl is even better than gtranslate, IMHO

dannoffs,
@dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I still mainly use deepl, but Google translate has made some impressive progress in the past few years and I’d say they’re pretty even now.

SCmSTR, (edited ) in What's going on with Google's search engine?

You really have to be careful. Sometimes browser add-ons can really fuck with your search results. A YouTube enhancer extension was a culprit at one point. If you're on Android, it's possible for apps to do this too. Stuff is constantly being patched and blacklisted, but it might not be purely the search engine's fault. I don't main Google anymore, but I still occasionally do use it when other engines let me down, and Google has been different enough.

I'm not saying it's worse or not worse, but that, if it's REALLY bad, it's also possible it's something else.

Edit (a week later): no, Google has actually gotten weirdly worse recently. Confirmed on multiple PCs. Not sure if it's just Google, the entire spread of the internet, or just search engines getting SEOd.

cassetti,

Yeah, I think ublock origin is the only extension I have on my browser - I prefer not to let some random extensions have access to everything I do on my web browser. Who knows what data they're logging

Gamers_Mate, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

Google has really gone down hill to the point I can no longer find obscure searches anymore. Even youtube searches sorting by new has gone downhill to the point that most of the results are youtube shorts with half of them having multiple hashtags in the title.

JingJang,

I REALLY wish there was a way to exclude shorts from YouTube results entirely.

at_an_angle,
@at_an_angle@lemmy.one avatar

I’ve found myself using DDG and Bing (fucking BING!) more than google lately.

railsdev,

Google going downhill led to me using DuckDuckGo 100% of the time. Before it was just too difficult to search for programming-related errors and stuff on anything but Google but that’s no longer true.

x4740N,

Search operators for YouTube might help with that

Max_P, in What's going on with Google's search engine?
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

My guess would be that it’s increasingly using AI/ML and natural language over search terms to sort the results, which results in much shittier results. Power users are used to specifying the search term precisely and it no longer does anything about it.

It tries way too hard to also return news articles and blog posts instead of forum posts and other types of user-generated content. If it can find a plain “well written” english blog it’ll return that over a 10 year old forum post that’s super detailed but full of grammar mistakes. It’s gone full corporate and strongly favors corporate interests and pushes commercial offerings more.

It used that ads were clearly labeled ads but it wouldn’t surprise me now regular results gets quietly prioritized based on some sort of financial incentives.

MajorHavoc,

I think you’re right (and I recall Google engineers have been open about using AI in past press releases.)

I suspect that Google is on the bleeding edge of what happens when a bunch of AIs try to convince other AIs to pick their schlop over the next schlop over. Very few of the involved parties are still focused on helping people (it’s hard to get an AI to focus on anything) and it’s starting to show.

CookieJarObserver, in What's going on with Google's search engine?
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ads. Ads happened.

SamsonSeinfelder,

Google needs to present growing profit for their shareholder. But ad revenue can only grow if you are alle to sell new ads. But there are not any new ideas for ads (like adWord etc) therefore they go down the road of „more ads“ to keep growing. What they needed was a new idea to offer another ad-concept that user liked and companies would pay for. But that did not happen. Goggle basically stopped innovating.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

As I understand it the fundamental problem is that capital gains (via the increase of share value) is taxed less than income (via dividends). So shareholders want companies whose share values increase rather than companies that pay dividends, which is why there's the "need" for companies to always eternally grow.

If those taxes were more balanced then there'd be more of a niche for companies that get "big enough" and then just sit at that size steadily turning a nice profit year after year to give to their shareholders.

pingwax, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

Seconded; something funky today.
Had multiple searches today that either produced no results (just the little guy fishing), or just links to junk sites that contain massive word lists and nothing else. Bing came through; usually it is best for video and image searches, but at least it got me going today.
I hate that bing (and dependent sites like DDG) will not let you exclude results; if they would address that, they would be a more serious search competitor imo; days like today would make them compelling.

Echo71Niner, in What's going on with Google's search engine?
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You are not alone, google search results quality has declined.

habanhero, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

Do a search on mobile and you need to scroll through an ENTIRE SCREEN full of ads (4-5) to get to the first result. And even that might be SEO’d. That’s the current sad state of affairs.

_pete_, in What's going on with Google's search engine?

It depends on which bit you’re talking about.

ChatGPT and SEO optimisation ruined the quality of results so sites who have no right to be near the top spot for particular terms get there by cramming as many pages full of tangentially related rubbish as they can.

The SERPs (search engine result pages, where you see the list of links) have been taken over by Google guessing at what you might be looking for, local results, shopping results, instant answers (which is usually aren’t relevant) and of course lots and lots of ads, leaving little to no room for the actual links you want.

If you are sick of it I would suggest trying DuckDuckGo, the results are a whole lot nicer :)

blubberman,

DuckDuckGo has some of the same problems too. It is mainly just a proxy for Bing search results. But they are less full of ads and crappy personalisation indeed. Also search.brave.com is worth a try.

x4740N,

Don’t use anything by brave

YoBuckStopsHere, in What's going on with Google's search engine?
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Use duck duck go

1chemistdown,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

Yes, but it also sucks. I want 2001-2010 google back

JingJang,

Alta Vista!

mysoulishome, in What's going on with Google's search engine?
@mysoulishome@lemmy.world avatar

Enshittification

darkstar,

This

scottywh,

Is it the way? Omg 😱

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