Could you elaborate? I only just started using dataview to list meetings I’ve had with people, under a page for that person directly. It’s finicky though (probably an issue with me) and wonder if this will make it easier.
Sure, I do something similar. I have a note for a person and I have a note for a recurring meeting. In a recurring meeting I have a Dataview field called Host.
<span style="color:#323232;">#Meeting
</span><span style="color:#323232;">This is my meeting note
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Host:: [[John Doe]]
</span>
In a Person note, I have a section for meetings the person hosts. I use Dataview to search for the Host field and see of it matches the current Person note.
<span style="color:#323232;">#Person
</span><span style="color:#323232;">This is John Doe's note.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;"># Meetings
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">dataview
</span><span style="color:#323232;">table without ID file.link AS "Meeting"
</span><span style="color:#323232;">from #Meeting
</span><span style="color:#323232;">where contains(Host, this.file.link)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span>
The new Properties feature sounds like it’ll be what Dataview fields are. Except now it’ll be in a native interface where I can easily change the information about the note.
Sweet! I’ve been using Notion lately for a work project that fit very well with Notion’s collaborative databases. But in doing that it made me want Properties for my personal Obsidian notes.
Is this just a new way to use/render the YAML metadata or something different?
If so, it is great to be able to have live links, tags, etc. inside the block. Not too sure about the editor, though. It seems to increase the disconnect with what I think is one of the big selling points of Obsidian: notes are just .md files. The properties editor feels like something different, not part of the note’s text…
Sounds like a nice front end and utilities to manage Properties, which are stored as frontmatter adhering to the practice of it all being plain text. Which I like. :)
So it does look like it’s a UI convenience layer for the YAML block. That is nice indeed. And the ability to have links there will save me from having to replicate some info right after the YAML block exactly because I need those links! Neat!
I did try to not use folders, but could not. Somehow, my mental structure works that way. Still, I think it depends on how you use them. I just have a handful of very high level folders for the big parts of my life I usually compartimentalize anyway, but it is flat otherwise, no subcategories,etc. Semantic connections across those folders, when the need arises, are done with links and tags. I use dataview sparingly. To me, the most attractive feature of Obsidian is the fact that, at the end of the day, all the notes are plain markdown files. Having used different note taking apps for decades now (I have notes from the late 90s still around, which I kept migrating from tool to tool), to be stuck in a proprietary format (or requiring special rendering, as is the case) would be a showstopper.
Still, the most beautiful thing about Obsidian, I think, is it’s ability to support a myriad organization styles, matching different people’s cognitive styles!
By any chance do you know which dev or do you know the handle?
I went to the discord tp check but I’m only able to find the twitter of some emplyees, I’m kind unaware of mastodon accounts and would appreciate if you could check which one there is.
You can also do this with any theme if you setup a CSS Snippet:
// This is the one that works for me
.markdown-source-view.mod-cm6 .cm-scroller {
font-family: monospace;
}
// You may also want to do this one
.markdown-source-view {
font-family: monospace;
}
Then reading view will use whatever font you've configured in the settings.
@berryjam I’ve tried to sign up for Lemmy twice and it’s failed both times. Please tell them they can use different fonts for live preview and for reading mode with the Minimal theme and the Minimal Theme Settings plugin.
I am surprised that nobody mentions dataview plugin… The thing about ToDos is that you need a central place to display them. This can be done with a dataview snippet in a ToDo-Note and Dataview is perfect for task keeping since you can add any type of key to your notes and display those in a sorted table as well, e.g. Deadline, Urgency, Workload, Parent-Note.
It’s not sending you automatic reminders though, so if you are not habitually checking your ToDo-Note you might benefit from setting a reminder for that and eventually building the habit.
Appreciate the reply! Now that I have my mind wrapped around a couple of the more commonly-used plugins I think I could probably manage it in Obsidian. I do use Dataview for a few different utility notes, like making sure my YAML is properly formatted.
I have definitely seen some nice-looking task setups in Obsidian. Perhaps one day I will try integrating the two again. For right now though I’m loving having a separate spot for my “thought inbox” and action items, using Obsidian as a means to brainstorm and explore further.
Can someone give me, and anybody reading this who wants to know but wouldn't bother to ask, a basic-as-possible idea of what the hell dataview does and why I would care? Or point me to something that does?
I read what you wrote and yes I'm tired but my eyes sort of glazed over. What's the "why it's cool" for people who aren't devs and only know Obsidian basics?
Dataview let’s you list notes, which contain certain keys. So you can index your notes automatically.
One can for example add category: and date: to the YAML and then use a dataview snippet like the following to list all work related notes and sort them by latest:
LIST
WHERE category = work
SORT date desc
With more keys you can make more conditions or show more information in a table. For example deadline: or urgency: in the YAML.
You can also check for notes, which are missing information in their YAML through:
TABLE
WHERE !category
There are lot of tutorials and the documentation online, if you want to know more.
Agree. Well, the great thing is that we don’t have to use it right? So, what shall we use on our vaults on mobile instead? Personally, I only really need the linking and quick open.
It doesn’t work too bad for me. But I find it super annoying that, depending on which UI element was last in focus, you have to double tap a tab to get it to switch.
I was able to get people to reproduce this on the iPad with a totally fresh vault. Doesn’t seem to be something they’re interested in figuring out or fixing. :(
I manage tasks in Obsidian using the Tasks plugin. Takes a little extra time to input the tasks so I use it primarily for important activities.
I have sections in my weekly notes to list due and overdue tasks. And I have a “task overview” note that groups tasks according to different filters.
I’ve started tracking tasks for other people (that I need to follow up) by using their initials as a hashtag, I can then filter these in/out depending on what I need to see.
Works brilliantly for my purposes and I have an easy way of seeing any outstanding tasks
I love this! I’m working on it too and have used tools for GTD such as everdo and omnifocus. Learning new strategies for organizing my notes and tasks together but obsidian is robust enough to do it. Just takes setup willpower. Not sure about notifications yet but time sensitive stuff goes in my calendar. Obsidian not only has amazing use for tools but can track habits and journal so well, then give a birds eye view of each area from habits, tasks, completed tasks, and daily logs from a one week to one month etc. Life changing for me as i’ve fallen off the journal bandwagon many times but including it in one app makes it best for me.
I tried to put my tasks all in Obsidian, but I eventually moved to Apple Reminders. Reminders sends me notifications about the task. Maybe Obsidian can, too, with a plug-in, but I don’t want to fuss with that. I also had problems entering a task in Obsidian on my computer and then having it show up on my phone quickly or vice versa, whereas (because I have both an iPhone and Mac) this is not a problem with Apple Reminders. Again, may be solvable with a plug-in but I don’t particularly feel like looking for a plug-in for something like this, no matter how irrational that feeling is.
Last time I checked, Reminders doesn’t have markdown support, and I’m not even sure if it lets me make line breaks. Not great for tasks that I need to write lots of detail about. But those tasks are usually far and few between, because I tend to write down the immediate next step to big tasks instead of writing down the big task and all the details I have to know about it.
Good to know for PC. I also just checked on my phone and it looks like I can also do line breaks in the notes. Not sure if I misremembered things or if they added this as a feature recently.
It’s interesting to read this as I move my tasks from Things into Obsidian (experimenting)
Maybe l’ll report back and LYK. 😆
I do think it’s important to carve out the cruft. Maybe Tasks/Todos is cruft for you, and some other facet of the app is for another. It’s interesting to me!
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