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  • qevlarr,

    The rules are all made up. The Supreme Court is a sham

    Bluescluestoothpaste,

    The Second Amendment is all about having arms and arms training so that men are generally ready to join a war, specifically against the English. It was never about walking around with a gun for “self-defense.” Also, bullets weren’t even invented yet, so they really had no idea at all about modern guns.

    solstice,

    Oh yeah, well what about MY freedom to go to a beach and not be worried about getting fucking SHOT? Why do THEY get all these rights and freedoms while WE have to suffer the consequences? I don’t fucking get it. What about our rights to not get shot?

    dill333, (edited )

    If someone wants to go to the beach with a gun, with the purpose of shooting at people, you think a law is going to stop them?

    solstice,

    nbcnews.com/…/7-year-old-shot-killed-fourth-july-…

    Two groups of morons both armed started a ruckus, pulled their guns, started shooting, and now an innocent bystander CHILD is fucking dead. Because idiots couldn’t leave their guns at home. It’s not all about active shooters.

    Witnesses described the scene as two groups of Hispanic males shooting at one another, police said.

    Don’t you just love all this freedom we have?!?

    Burn_The_Right,

    If they can’t ban guns, they should ban conservatives instead. Problem solved.

    Friendly Reminder: It is perfectly legal to discriminate based on political affiliation. Do your part to help fight conservatism by excluding conservatives in your daily life. It is not appropriate to conduct business or keep relationships with such people.

    d16n,

    what about the liberal gun owners?

    Burn_The_Right,

    Liberal gun owners (like me) aren’t taking guns to beaches.

    Ubermeisters,

    Good luck finding a liberal gun owner who is bringing it to a beach…

    S_204,

    This is the twisted retarded logic that conservatives hold.

    “I’m a piece of shit who wants to bring a gun to the beach, Liberals must want the same terrible things I do”

    obinice,
    @obinice@lemmy.world avatar

    Damn, the US annexation of Hawai’i continues to hurt their nation :-(

    I hope one day they can win their freedom back.

    mojo,

    Why do they defend so hard for like the one weird out of 1000 who openly waves a gun around that makes everyone extremely uncomfortable. People around open carriers don’t think “wow freedom!”, they get super fucking uncomfortable.

    Ubermeisters,

    Because that one out of a thousand is also the noisiest person at their local officials office

    30mag,

    The law in question prohibits licensed carry of firearms from a list of areas and premises, it does not only ban guns on beaches.

    CookieJarObserver,
    @CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yeah ok thats kinda ok.

    30mag,

    I think the headline is misleading is all. The law in question deals only with persons who have a license to carry. If a person does not have a license to carry, it remains illegal for them to bring guns to the beach.

    Foofighter,

    Hang on… There is unlicensed carry that might be banned specifically on beaches? Isn’t unlicensed carry in general like… Illegal or something?

    atzanteol,

    Can I carry one into the court where the justices meet? Or is safety just something the “little people” need to work about?

    sucricdrawkcab,

    Klaus from the Life Aquatic of Team Zissou is the first thing that came to mind reading this.

    ilickfrogs, (edited )
    @ilickfrogs@lemmy.world avatar

    USA: Has major gun violence problem.

    US legal system: yEw cANt tAYKE thUR fReeDUMB

    IzzyJ,
    @IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

    “Who needs guns on the beach”

    I’m trans. Id sooner never go. But if I had to, with the way things are going, you bet your ass I am afraid and would rather be armed

    ArcaneSlime,

    Hell yes. Make guns a nonpartisan “nonissue.” Armed minorities are harder to oppress, and gun control disproportionately affects minorities in marginalized and overpoliced communities. One state just removed the requirement for pistol purchase permits because (as it was designed to be in the first place since it was a Jim Crow era law) racist sheriffs were denying black people’s permits, 60% of denials were to black people.

    ycnz,

    Yeah, famously, the US doesn’t oppress minorities because of all the guns.

    ArcaneSlime,

    There’s a reason California has so much gun control, and it is Ronald Reagan being racist in the 80’s because the Black Panthers were exercising their right to bare arms, because it was making it harder for the police to oppress them. In fact CCW and purchase permits were designed and are often still used as a way to keep POC from exercising their rights, as it makes them harder to oppress if they can carry. They use gun control to oppress those minorities, things like stop and frisk, or denying permits and charging them when they carry anyway. They enforce this gun control primarily in overpoliced marginalized minority neighborhoods, not in gated communities or majority white neighborhoods. Regardless of your intentions or perceptions, the real life effects of gun control are these, and it is harder to oppress a person/community/people who have guns than one who does not.

    sin_free_for_00_days,

    While Reagan was racist and was responsible for a lot of bad shit in the '80s, what you’re talking about with the Panthers was in the late '60s.

    girlfreddy,
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    ArcaneSlime,

    Girlfreddy was quick with it! But yeah, that.

    30mag,

    That’s because, famously, gun control in the US targets minorities.

    Do you think that is only a coincidence?

    Armed minorities are harder to oppress:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Occupation

    marmo7ade,

    Yes! The only way America will solve the gun problem is if we keep escalating the problem to a critical point. You’re doing god’s work. Thank you.

    Instead of strapping up, I simply don’t go to beaches where I’m afraid to be shot. There’s more than 1 beach.

    reverendsteveii,

    just don’t go anywhere you’re likely to be shot. Like school, work, the grocery store, church, urban areas, suburban areas, rural areas, bars, restaurants, nightclubs, daycare centers…

    Without even addressing the moral panic and domestic terrorism currently being whipped up against trans people the fact is that “just don’t go places where people are allowed to carry” is a bad solution even for the average person.

    Noughmad, (edited )

    As a trans person, would you rather go to a beach where nobody is armed, or to a beach where everybody might be armed?

    Established_Trial,

    I’m not trans, but I’d rather go where everyone might be armed. Just because everyone is supposed to not bring a gun somewhere doesn’t mean there won’t be someone that does- how many shootings in the US happen in “gun free zones”?

    Fract,

    Only in the US. When I go to the beach in my country, Australia, I’d never even consider the possibility of a gunman.

    solstice,

    I’ll foolishly assume this is a comment posted by a human in good faith and not a troll or a bot.

    Does fog of war mean anything to you? Go to a crowded place where everyone is armed. Person 1 is a baddie and kills person 2. Person 3 is a Good Guy and shoots person 1. People 4, 5, and 6 are also Good Guys With Guns and didn’t directly observe the original altercation, they only observed Person 3 shooting Person 1, and assume Person 3 shot Person 2 as well. People 4, 5, and 6, open fire on Person 3. They are bad shots though and the adrenaline dump makes them miss, so People 7, 8, and 9 get shot in the crossfire. At this point it is total chaos, everyone is either shooting at everyone else (fight), running in panic (flight), getting shot in the crossfire (freeze), or just shrieking their head off at the carnage in front of them (freak). Then the police arrive and shoot the survivors.

    Congratufuckinglations, we now have a bunch of bodies and dozens of traumatized people because you morons couldn’t leave your fucking guns at home and enjoy the goddamn beach.

    I hate this country so much sometimes.

    sudo22,
    @sudo22@lemmy.world avatar

    Good ruling. If I’m just walking through public land legally carrying I shouldn’t be bared from an area just because of its proximity to water. 2nd amendment is clear on that.

    Tolstoshev,

    There’s a Simpsons for this one:

    reddit.com/…/ukelele_pineapples_beach_pistol_scan…

    Trudge,
    @Trudge@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Say goodbye to tourist dollars from Asia.

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