IverCoder,

Canada is several months away from medically assisted “suicide” for people who don’t support currently elected politicians

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Found the right wing, nutjob.

weirdwallace75,

Huh. In the UK, they just put them on waiting lists until they die.

www.bbc.com/news/health-67087906

Smacks,
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

That’s fucked

Perhapsjustsniffit,

“Kill em all”. Canadian here. Disabled folks like myself have been taking this route for a while now simply because they can’t afford to live any longer. That’s pretty fucked. Canada doesn’t want anything to do with us or the “junkies”. They’d rather we die.

mbp,
@mbp@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Like, truly, where was legality ever an issue if you were really considering suicide? Maybe that’s just my lense

Smoogs,

Bingo. The health administrator just wants to go “hey I don’t want to give this person naxolone but I also don’t want to face any consequences.”

The “legality” side of committing suicide in a drug addicts case is a red herring. It’s incredibly easy to kill yourself on fentanyl even accidentally. with or without legality.

PilferJynx,

This is only okay if the client asks for it under lucid understanding. And I support it. “Pushing” this from any government agent should be illegal. I will take this route when I reach a certain quality of life threshold.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

It hasn’t been pushed on anyone from a Healthcare provider(the only people legally allowed to recommend and administer)

Pili,

Considering that just two weeks ago the canadian government for cheering for actual SS Nazis, that should be a surprise for no one.

ZenkorSoraz,

This is Burgsys type shit TNO can’t make this up

ZenkorSoraz,

Fuck Canada

Acters,

I do hate this, but at least dying is not an illegal thing to do to oneself, but at the same time, I don’t want people to die, even if they decided to. On top of that, there has to be a better way to deal with addiction than allowing someone to just die. Plus, there is a stupid loophole brewing where people who decide not to die could be documented as wanting to die by some powerful individuals. All around, a bad thing to legalize and the administrative problems it would bring

Mango,

I don’t want people to suffer even if they decided to. There’s this stupid loophole where people are convicted of crimes they didn’t do because the government is theatre.

All around, people should maintain their own propriety.

Smoogs,

This opens some uncomfortable doors for people who have a severe negative and abusive view towards drug addicts.

S_204,

I know multiple doctors involved in the panels that make these decisions and the people that have negative and abusive views towards drug addicts don’t really get input into this process.

If you can find a panel of doctors stack full of fucking assholes who want addicted people to die. That’s a different story, but I would argue the people I know involved in this processing. Canada albeit just a few of them are genuinely good people who don’t judge you for the issues you’re going through and just want you to be helped and at peace.

Smoogs,

Yeah the risk with panels: look at the SCJ right now. Its supposed to be an ethics committee but almost all of them got in there doesn’t have a shred of ethics.

So if you’re relying on a panel of voted doctors It’s just a bribe away from complete negligence and apathy to human life over a slight inconvenience and $$.

It’s not exactly prime objective material.

Luisp,

Canada, can you stop doing eugenesics for 5 seconds?

Wahots,
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

This seems reasonable. Lucid only, there’s a big talk about it, gernerally seems in-line with how other countries handle it. If you were slowly dying of rabies, prions, ebola, rat-lungworm, or other terrible maladies/injuries, I could see this being beneficial.

Smoogs,

This is already in place in Canada. They want to take it further and just off the people who inconvenience the upper class but without getting their hands dirty doing it themselves. Just want the ‘unwashed to go away’

When you really consider it, anyone with an addiction can easily commit suicide. It’s not exactly something they need ‘help’ with if that was a conscious intent. So a law to allow this is a misnomer and a bit on the nose of what it really is about: class war.

doyadig,

For the last two months I’ve been seriously considering taking my own life. What holds me back is that I’ll severely fuck up my loving family, my mum, dad and brothers and my girlfriend/ex-girlfriend (it’s complicated). It would hurt them so much. If it wasn’t for them I would have already done it.

So what I want to know is why shouldn’t I just end my 33 year old Swedish life right now when there’s just too much stuff to battle. Before I wanted to battle my way through this. But I can’t take this anymore. I’ve never posted something like this before. Sorry everyone. I don’t know why I did it.

S_204,

I hope you have someone to talk to about this. Your life is worth living, the people who you don’t want to hurt love you and want you in their lives even if it’s complicated.

Wishing you all the best.

TurianHammer,

I’m not qualified to answer this even though I want to help you. If you are considering suicide please don’t. Please find a helpline and talk to someone who can help you so much better than me.

Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Hey there, I’m sorry to read about these thoughts you’re having. I urge you to consider using one of the services available to you in Sweden and talk to someone about it here : mind.se/chatt/

Wish you all the best get better man life is worth living it’s all we have.

SonarTaxLaw,

I’ve been in a very dark place myself a few times. Knowing that my wife is and will always be there for me is the only thing that gave me hope for the future, even when I was at my lowest. I don’t know what you’re struggling with but I can tell you from my own experience, the darkness is not permanent.

As other commenters have said, please take advantage of the help that’s available. Your life is valuable, you are worthwhile, and the present is not the future.

Smoogs,

Hey thanks for posting this. I understand you are feeling the fight is too long and too big. With everything going on in the world it can feel pretty defeating. You have a lot of people around standing through it with you. Please reach out to anyone close by.

I think the brain can go through waves of defeat and sometimes it’s the feelings we might have we just want to have a break from it. Can you workshop a bit with these feelings? Do you have a workbook maybe you can write out everything that is happening right now that you just hate and bringing up these feelings, places, people and things. You don’t have to worry about showing it to anyone. It’s purely just for you. No shame. It’s to just put it somewhere so you don’t feel like you’re abandoning it but just like file it so you can have a break from it.

After that :write out how you feel about your family and girlfriend and the ex(and however it’s complicated) and write out how you feel about them. Maybe write out why you want to stick around for all of them.

After that: write out as if you’re someone who isn’t you but as a witness to yourself. Like a summary or just a separate entity, maybe you from the future or past (or both) or a role model, what would you say to you to help you?

I can see you’re doing it here already. So keep doing it. Write it all out.

Smoogs,

This is completely bullshit about what it really is about. Anyone with an addiction can easily commit suicide. It’s not exactly something they need ‘help’ with to do. Passing a law about just allowing that seems suspect. Suspect in that I don’t think it’s about ‘allowing’ but more ‘encouraging’ or just not injecting someone ODing for the umpteenth time with naxolone and not facing any legal consequences with corrupt/inept lawyers. They should just come out and fuckin say it. It’s a class war. Nothing to do with empathy.

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