Treczoks,

Well, this frees up some jobs from being taken away by Harvard elitists.

AllonzeeLV, (edited )

en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

How dare Hamas act out of desperation from the largest open air prison on Earth?!

Writing strongly worded letters for 100 years while they were systematically deprived of basic resources, or mass voluntary Palestinian suicide because the world clearly doesn’t value their lives, are their only acceptable options!

In all seriousness though. You live in squalor, your children starve, and you see the children of your oppressors who actively stop resources from getting to your children having a lavish party. Do you just tell your children to die quietly so as not to disturb their children’s lavish party?

When you forcibly remove hope, vengeance becomes an intoxicating alternative.

For the record, I think both societies are are backwards and built on savagery and ignorance, because both are willing to die, to deny rights to, and to kill REAL PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY EXIST for their equally moronic imaginary friends.

Fuck organized religion. No amount of conditionial soup is worth this never ending murderous cycle of bullshit. No rational person cares if you want to pray to Pikachu at 2am every morning standing on one foot, stop making your rituals and superstitious nonsense other people’s problems.

danhakimi,
@danhakimi@kbin.social avatar

Quite disappointing to see kbin users attempt to justify

a military blockade of people who use every weapon they can get to try to kill your civilians, and try to turn every resource they can get into weapons, is not "an open air prison." There are thousands of Gazans entering Israel every day due to Israeli work permits, medical treatments, refuge for gay people in Gaza (who are executed by Hamas). All in all, about 575,000 Gazans exited Gaza in 2022 by land borders, mostly through Israel since Egypt is generally fairly opposed to Gazans coming into Egypt. They won't let refugees into Sinai now.

The heads of Hamas are billionaires and live in Qatar. They take every bit of aid that comes in and use it to perpetuate terrorism. The blockade didn't start until about six years after rocket fire, until after Israel left Gaza. Gaza hasn't been occupied since 2005.

This whole "open air prison" thing is ridiculous. There's border enforcement because they use those borders to kill people. Israel controls their air space because they kill people by air. Israel doesn't like the terror tunnels because the terror tunnels are used to send terrorists in to kill people. If they want to be able to move freely, they should stop killing people in the places they want to move to.

zzzz, (edited )

For anyone curious, here is the letter:

s3.documentcloud.org/…/joint-statement-by-harvard…

It was surprisingly difficult to find! All the “news” articles were just he-said-she-said baloney.

Edit: Here is the text so you don’t have to download the PDF:

Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in PalestineWe, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence. Today’s events did not occur in a vacuum. For the last two decades, millions of Palestinians in Gaza have been forced to live in an open-air prison. Israeli of f i cials promise to “open the gates of hell,” and the massacres in Gaza have already commenced. Palestinians in Gaza have no shelters for refuge and nowhere to escape. In the coming days, Palestinians will be forced to bear the full brunt of Israel’s violence. The apartheid regime is the only one to blame. Israeli violence has structured every aspect of Palestinian existence for 75 years. From systematized land seizures to routine airstrikes, arbitrary detentions to military checkpoints, and enforced family separations to targeted killings, Palestinians have been forced to live in a state of death, both slow and sudden. Today, the Palestinian ordeal enters into uncharted territory. The coming days will require a f i rm stand against colonial retaliation. We call on the Harvard community to take action to stop the ongoing annihilation of Palestinians. This statement was co-authored by a coalition of Palestine solidarity groups at Harvard. For student safety, the names of all original signing organizations have been concealed at this time.

drdiddlybadger,
@drdiddlybadger@pawb.social avatar

Damn. I find it incredibly difficult to trust any company that takes issue with this statement. They’re calling for an end to a genocide and get punished for it? Shit sucks.

sugarfree,
@sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

What goes around comes around. Fuck you, antisemites.

nautilus,

Totally agree. I just thank god every day that it is completely and utterly impossible to criticize Israel without being an antisemite. Inexorably linked, for sure. Absolutely should NOT have nuanced or subtle opinions on anything.

Because of course all Jewish people live in Israel, and the Israeli government consists of everyone in the entire country, not just political leaders. God, it’s so good being right all the time.

danhakimi,
@danhakimi@kbin.social avatar

It's perfectly possible to criticize the Israeli government without being an antisemite. I do it all the time. This statement was not that by a mile.

The statement is antisemitic. The statement says that Israel is entirely to blame for the murder of Israeli civilians. It doesn't express any sympathy for the dead, or the kidnapped, or the raped, or the burned, or the beheaded. It does not identify Hamas as having anything to do with what happened. That sort of rejection of reality is not an accident. It's antisemitism.

amanneedsamaid,

I can’t understand how someone can be ignorant enough to think being anti-isreal is equivalent to being an antisemite.

TruTollTroll,
@TruTollTroll@lemmy.world avatar

Israel ≠ Jewish. Jewish ≠ religious always. Criticizing Israel ≠antisemite

TransplantedSconie,

“Harvard out of occupied Palestine”

I was unaware that Havard had any form of military, nor was located in Palestinian land.

The more you know

uplifting The More You Know music followed by rainbows

givesomefucks,

From OPs username I get why they care what NY Post thinks…

But why would normal people care? NY Post is straight trash

amanneedsamaid,

Cowards. There are people being killed for Palestinian freedom, and these college students are afraid of CEOs blacklisting them for having an opinion.

Textbook definition of succumbing to tyranny.

redballooon, (edited )

You know what’s tyranny? When your dictatotship refuses to even accept the existence of their neighbors, who’s collaboration you dearly need for survival let alone a life worth living.

IamRoot,

They fucked around and now they are about to find out.

IamRoot,

They put their names on a paper supporting terrorism.

They are finding out that was a mistake, but it is too late.

orclev,

Did you forget to change accounts? You seem to have replied to yourself.

IamRoot,

No. I was just clarifying why they fucked around and are now finding out.

amanneedsamaid,

Edit your post next time, dumb fuck.

IamRoot,

Nice try to call me a sock puppet though.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

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