Tandybaum,

I’ve never thought about it but I think I have this bias. It’s something I’ll try and think on and correct because it’s dumb.

If someone was describing their friend that posts to Instagram 20 times a day I would 100% picture a woman. If they told me it was a dude it would have bumped me a little.

It’s probably tied to that old (incorrect) thought that women talk more than men.

Hacksaw,

This article does a good job of pointing out yet another toxic gender norm that applies to men. Ironically most of the replies agree that toxic masculinity is bad, but are also reinforcing toxic masculinity because it’s “unmanly to be weak and successor to harmful gender norms”.

Men are allowed to be weak, and they’re worth helping when they fall for stupid ideas like “it’s unmanly to post a lot” or “it’s unmanly to fall for such an obviously false/toxic idea of masculinity”.

fkn,

How is this not misogyny?

spaduf, (edited )

Like most of the avoidant stereotypes around men (especially stereotypes having to do with avoiding things that are feminine), I think it absolutely does boil down to misogyny.

fkn,

So why post misogynistic crap?

spaduf,

You’re going to need to explain your views if you want to engage in actual conversation here. How is the article misogynistic?

fkn,

You literally just agreed with me that this was misogyny. I asked how it wasn’t and you said that it was…

spaduf,

We are talking about an article that covers research quantifying stereotypes about masculinity. These stereotypes are likely rooted in misogyny. If your claim is that talking about these stereotypes in an academic format is tantamount to misogyny you will not get far here. Did you read the article by chance?

unexposedhazard,

I think some people dont have the ability to separate the message from the messenger…

In this case “observing stereotypes and reporting them” is equated to “promoting stereotypes”

spaduf,

I think there’s probably a degree to which folks are taking it a little personally (being frequent posters). I think it’s notable how differently this has been received here versus over on reddit. I’ve noticed that quite a few articles that do fine over there are far more likely to be taken as personal attacks over here.

PeepinGoodArgs,

There’s even a tendency for people to think it is unmanly to sleep more, because needing rest is connected to being weak and vulnerable.

Lol. If your idea of manliness is threatened by getting more sleep, you probably need to grow up and take a nap.

Monkeyhog,

It is neither manly, nor unmanly, it is just stupid and narcissistic.

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