9/11, 2008 financial crisis, covid and now the Ukraine war and the inflation it has caused (and/or Brexit for those of us in the UK) would be my picks.
I wouldn’t put climate change as one of them. Having it be a specific point makes it seem like Climate change had a definitive start or end point. It’s just kinda floating in the background.
Depending on which end of millennials you are really impacts things as well. I would say events going from 1990 onward would count for older millennials, but you millennials might not count anything before 2005.
I seem to remember a time period of a few years where climate change went from kinda floating in the background to being A DIRECT THREAT TO YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES, THE OCEANS WILL COME AND GET YOU WITHIN 10 YEARS!.
I think that traumatized a whole generation of young people.
It’s kinda always been there, just that the urgency has really ramped up in recent years. It went from scientists saying this is coming to the general populace screaming IT’S TOO LATE WE’RE FUCKED.
Go look at people in Syria or Venezuela who can barely find food. You’re just a bunch of annoying spoiled brats. You need to struggle to find food, clear water and electricity to learn what struggle means. You need to try to rush your grandma to the hospital and see her die in your car in your arms, because of army gates blocking the way, to know the value of the luxury you’re living at.
You’ll never realize the blessing you’re enjoying until you lose it. Grow up and learn to be thankful you have a full belly and warm water.
What do you want me to do then, I petitiony representatives and try to get involved. I work two jobs, have a mountain of debt, and severe depression and anxiety. If I don’t complain I might just end up killing myself dealing with stress. Me complaining about having to struggle this hard in a first world country is valid.
You can complain about individual problems where we can discuss solutions, no problem. But this whole “4 crises” trend that has been going on for like a month is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. It’s not constructive, and very stupid, because if we’re gonna talk macro economics, the majority of westerners live a lavish lifestyle compared to others in the world. However, that doesn’t mean there aren’t individual people who have problems, like yourself. So, talk about your individual problem (student loans, dating market, crunches in jobs, work/life balance, etc), and don’t complain about the macro situation. it doesn’t make any sense.
I mean, your argument basically boils down to “you can’t complain, others have it worse”, which is a toxic take. Should a person who lost a leg not be allowed to complain because someone in the world has lost two legs, and therefore is an annoyed spoiled brat who still has a leg? Should the only people allowed to complain be people on the verge of death, since they’re the people who are the worst off? Does the argument work in reverse as in “you can’t be happy, others have it better”?
You’re using the word “toxic” to say that you don’t like my opinion. Booho. Cry me a river. Your username says a lot about you and explains why your brain cannot comprehend a disagreement.
You haven’t lost a leg. You haven’t lost anything. You’re amongst the richest people on the fucking planet with the most luxurious lifestyles with a smart phone that costs a month’s income for a family in most of the world if not more. You never had to sleep hungry or lived in the dark because you can’t pay for electricity, so give me a break. You’re just a brat. That’s all. Brat. Annoying, ignorant, spoiled brat who cannot appreciate the good stuff they have.
Does the argument work in reverse as in “you can’t be happy, others have it better”?
My argument works as: You’re part of the richest people on earth. Shut up and enjoy it.
Wait you think because someone has a smartphone that theyve never been hungry or without? You know you can starve to death in a first world country right?
So now you’re gonna twist my argument to prove that you’re as miserable as people in Syria and Venezuela. Nice try.
Brats. That’s all there’s to you. You should be ashamed of yourselves to even dare to respond to me. The right answer is “you’re right, we’re the top of the top in the world”, and then you shut your mouth and never bring up this topic ever again. This whole state of complaining is just annoying! Go to Venezuela and complain all day and you have my support. Unbelievable! I don’t believe there’s someone arguing still.
You’re just a brat. That’s all. Brat. Annoying, ignorant, spoiled brat who cannot appreciate the good stuff they have.
This seems like a really good way to engage with people and change their minds, and get them to enjoy the things in their life. Definitely not contributing to the problem, or you just taking out whatever issue you have here on other random passersby of the thread. Very cool.
I’m not here to “engage” with these brats. I’m just here to tell them they’re stupid and annoying. That’s me doing my part. If enough people did that, I assure you this will stop. But everyone is a coward and wants to pet them “ooooh, you poor baby… you’re not having enough BigMacs and you’re not obese enough”.
Not everyone wants to engage in a race to the bottom where you’re not allowed to seek to improve your circumstances relatively to other even more lucky and privileged people in your own country because people in other countries have even less. If you were in any of the countries you’re bringing up and talking to someone else in one of those countries you would literally be saying the exact same thing you are now you would just refer to someone in an even worse circumstance still, e.g. someone with two missing legs.
I bet you have things much easier than half the people in this thread and all you care about is making sure that isn’t threatened so you have to try to uphold the status quo at all costs. Because all you really care about is yourself, not anybody in Venezuala or anywhere else they’re just an argumentative tool to dismiss anybody who wants to make things better in their own country.
It’s not like you’re racing to the top, because that’d be admirable. You’re complaining for dumb reasons that fall in the big picture. You have my support to race to the top, it’s called “life”, but all I see is complaining. Again: You’re living in the top echelon of humanity both in space and time, literally, yet you think you’re oppressed. That’s what brats do.
Your username says a lot about you and explains why your brain cannot comprehend a disagreement.
The fact that you’re calling me out on not being able to “comprehend a disagreement” while spending hours typing out comments that basically say “lalala I win” filled with personal insults shows 0 self-awareness. If you cannot comprehend the concept of “being respectful” and acting like a rabid dog on any disagreement, the problem is with you.
That being said, you going for personal attacks instead of actually debunking what I said shows that your argument is, quite frankly, shit. Don’t pretend like you’re unaware of this.
People have it worse than they should all over the world. That kinda seems like the point of the post to me. Should op have posted a meme saying “fuck the whole world because I don’t have it as bad?”
No, OP should not post that they’re miserable or whatever because they had “4 crises”. This is an improvement even compared to 200 years ago. Only baby boomers were so lucky not to have so much problems. Almost every other generation before had it worse + almost every other country in the world has it worse. OP’s complaint shows that they don’t appreciate the good life they have, despite the “crises” that happened, compared to the majority of humanity, whether in this time or in history.
I’m not saying that every indivudal is having a hunky dory rosy life. Compared to many in the world, your life is still better. I’m all for discussing individual problems, but not the stupidity of “feel bad for me because we had 4 crises”. I complained about health care in Europe repeatedly because it’s a joke. I would’ve died too, btw. I was saved outside of Europe, luckily, by sheer coincidence.
And btw, your grandma would’ve died even earlier in Syria or Venezuela. Sorry for your loss. But you still have it better than others, and I’m absolutely not against discussing problems that affect society, instead of complaining about vapid, fabricated non-issues just to feel bad for a “generation”, like 4 crises. People in other countries wish they have 10% of what you have.
I don’t think anyone even records this stuff in Venezuela or Syria anymore, and due to corruption no one cares. You have no idea how chaotic things are there. I know people there who got shot and never got even picked up for weeks because no one dares to cross that street anymore. The stories are horrifying.
Please stop making excuses. Once you have no more food, clean water, electricity, and persistent hyper-inflation, then let’s have that discussion again.
The irony I see here is that people keep saying that Norway is amazing socialism and everyone should do that in the US… I’m not from the US for the record. Let’s not get into that discussion, but it’s just an ironic thing coming to mind.
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