Lemmyshitpost community closed until further notice

Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won’t help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @Striker the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn’t his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what’s next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It’s been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn’t the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I appreciate all the hard work you’re doing. Not only must it be exhausting to delete all this perverse filth, but I’m guessing you have to look at it too. At least the thumbnail.

Pratai,

Pedophiles are fighting with the only weapon they have that can fuck up someone’s life-

The irony.

CantSt0pPoppin,
@CantSt0pPoppin@lemmy.world avatar

Even if they aren’t they are providing it and weaponizing it to destroy communities this is a sad day. To think people would stoop this low is truly unhinged and unforgivable.

assassin_aragorn,

The difference between a pedophile and someone who uses this material to attack with is negligible. It’s almost indescribable how evil these people are.

tallwookie,
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

wow that’s fucked, but thanks for the transparency

Darth_vader__,
@Darth_vader__@discuss.online avatar

what if we use deep learning based automoderators to instantly nuke these posts as they appear? For privacy and efficiency let’s make the model open source and community maintained… maybe even start a seperate donation for maintaining this, and maybe even make it a public API!

SamboT,

For sure let us know when it’s done

bilal,

How will these models be trained? Surely, it would need huge amount of such data to be trained on.

query,

Yeah, that can’t be a community or open source project. Maybe the result can be open source and free to implement, but even if you can artificially generate the training data, that all has to be a strictly controlled process.

Darth_vader__,
@Darth_vader__@discuss.online avatar

maybe we can make a SFW bot an train it on general porn… most of the communities do not allow porn anyway right?

CreeperODeath,

I agree But it’s also something to be careful of

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, how can that AI distinguish those post in a way that doesn’t have false detections? That’s the main issue with leaving the job of mods to an AI

Darth_vader__,
@Darth_vader__@discuss.online avatar

instead of removing maybe hide the post and let a mod review it? I say let it report all pornographic post and let the mods choose what should be allowed

Diprount_Tomato,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

That’s great for detecting possible raids, but once they’re detected I see it to be an overbureaucratisation of the process

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

I think that it’s a wrong assumption that a human moderator would be any more reliable than a sufficiently elaborate and trained machine learning system

TheWoozy,

It sounds like a lot of work for an uncertain outcome. Please volunteer head up the project!

recapitated,

I understand this is a major growing problem in many parts of the tech industry right now.

Solving the problem will make us strong… I just wish it was over something like malware. Something urgent enough to make us work, but not awful enough… You know.

HawlSera,

Malware would be better for our sanity, Malware has less questions that challenge my sanity and my already low opinion of the world.

LEDZeppelin,

Thank you. I love fediverse.

Whitehat93875,
@Whitehat93875@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know if it has been mentioned there yet but do you think it would be a good idea to post this to the lemmy incidents room on Matrix?

Francis_Fujiwara,

What the fuck, dude? That’s weird.

Whitehat93875,
@Whitehat93875@lemmy.world avatar

It’s evil, disgusting, and illegal. Weird doesn’t seem like a good adjective at all to describe what happened, way too tame.

Clbull,

To me this is a flaw of federation in general and I really think the solution should be to defederate yourselves from other instances until further notice, and only federate with trusted communities.

With how Lemmy (and the fediverse in general) is currently set up, what’s stopping malicious actors from just creating another Lemmy instance of their own then targeting another community until you’re forced to close that one like you did with Lemmyshitpost.

infinipurple,

I mean, you have a point, of course, but the aim of these digital terrorists is precisely to take Lemmy down. These attacks are happening across many different instances and the long-term solution cannot just be to give up.

But if all the instances work together on a federated solution, we might have a chance to keep Lemmy alive long enough that a) this sort of thing will naturally die down, and b) the collective efforts will allow bad actors to be identified and stopped no matter where they’re coming from.

mvirts,

Don’t forget this happens with sites like Facebook and reddit but they pay people to clean up and sweep it under the rug. At least the visibility shines light on the problem.

Trekman10,
@Trekman10@sh.itjust.works avatar

Was wondering why I couldn’t reply to a comment from earlier today when I was sure I hadn’t broken any rule to get banned. Hope it’s back soon, but more importantly that you can stop all the damn CP.

kratoz29,

How come that I never encountered any kind of this content and browse constantly Lemmy, is this one of the perks of surfing through subscribed feed?

I unsubscribed from meme communities very early on because they were spamming such a feed.

KazuyaDarklight,
@KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world avatar

Also a situation where avoiding “New” helps, since no one is up-voting that BS.

kratoz29,

Yeah, honestly I don’t see the appeal to browsing new, I usually see 6 hours is the recommended sort, I have been sorting by daily as of lately.

GONADS125,

Not enjoying shitposting saved me here too. Like you, I’ve blocked so many meme communities. Not a hater, just not the content I’m interested in.

It saved us here, but who knows where they could end up spamming it next?

kratoz29,

Yeah to be honest I didn’t block them, I just wasn’t subscribed to them and 90% of my Lemmy usage comes from my subscribed feed.

But I can see these scums picking whatever community they feel like.

RanchOnPancakes,
@RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world avatar

WTH is wrong with people?

firediviner,

Can you please stop pinning threads globally? or maybe add toggle so people could disable it in their feed

MrWafflesNBacon,

Yeah same here, I’m fine if it’s pinned for just a day then unpinned globally afterwards through.

carroarmato0,
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As someone who was a moderator on a nothorious website, it can at times feel like shoveling water out of a boat while it’s still leaking. Efficient and robust tooling makes a very big difference, but it’s not waterproof. Mods cannot be appreciated enough.

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Is there a way to see all reports made by myself and see their statuses?

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