‘We had to fight to be heard’: Spain stars Putellas and Paredes speak out about "systemic discrimination against women’s football"

The uproar over Luis Rubiales’s behaviour laid bare the female players’ longstanding fight for equality; a battle that took a fresh twist this week after 15 players from the World Cup-winning squad were called-up despite their decision to boycott the national team until changes are made to the federation leadership.

Mopswasser,

All societal issues aside, it’s hard for me to subscribe to the general idea that women’s football is “silenced” or “marginalized” in any meaningful way. On the contrary, it’s propped up by clubs and federations. As a professional sport, it’s hardly sustainable in most places that are not the US.

In the Spanish women’s league’s last season, the median attendance was 922 people per game [1]. And this was in a “hype season” with a World Cup and accordingly strong sponsor engagement. It wouldn’t surprise me if we saw the numbers decline to the standards of the season before, with a median attendance of 532 [2].

1 www.football-lineups.com/tourn/…/Home_Avg_Atte/

2 www.football-lineups.com/tourn/…/Home_Avg_Atte/

0x815, (edited )

It wouldn’t surprise me if we see the numbers increase to standards never seen before with a median attendance in the 5-digits given the women’s football popularity and growing media attraction in recent years.

Let’s see what happens.

JoBo,

In the UK, the FA banned women’s football in 1921 because the women were getting bigger attandances than the men.

System justification is an easy sport to play but a solid grasp of history is much more rewarding.

Mopswasser,

That logic is so laughable on its face. A couple charity matches drew a sizeable audience and raised money, so the butthurt FA decided to ban women games from being played on FA affiliated grounds …

Aside from this fantastic 53,000 people number only appearing in a player’s diary, the author couldn’t provide any evidence that the ban was due to the attention womens’ games were getting. Because there is no such evidence.

Of course, women’s football might possibly be bigger today if not for the bans, but going forth with unsubstantiated articles like that certainly doesn’t help.

JoBo,

Why are you making shit up?

Mopswasser,

What have I been making up? Perhaps read your own sources more critically.

It’s an illusion that the ban was motivated by jealousy. The only piece of evidence the article supplies is this:

“When I spoke to Alice Norris [one of the Dick, Kerr players of the time] and some of the other ladies they all said they thought the FA was just jealous because they were getting bigger crowds,”

Oral accounts of subjective judgments of affected players.

If there is better evidence, it’s not in the article. Feel free to provide it.

JoBo,

So, you’re assuming that article is the sole bit of history available? And also, feel confident to dismiss it despite the fact that you have never read any of the history you assume does not exist?

Come the fuck on.

Mopswasser,

Still not a shred of evidence that the FA banned women’s football due to jealousy. Good on that fan-site for keeping their memory alive but they don’t even cite sources so …

JoBo,

Well, they didn’t minute it. But it was very much part of the context.

But still, you’re arguing the toss over the FA’s motivations now, so you’ve accepted that you were originally talking out of your arse, and continued to talk out of your arse, for some unfathomably fragile reason.

Mopswasser,

Welp, still no source backing your initial claim that the ban was due to women’s matches outperforming men spectator-wise.

JoBo,

But you accept that they did, and that’s progress.

Mopswasser,

How could I possibly accept this premise without having seen a shred of tangible evidence? That would be delusional.

JoBo,

You didn’t read any of the history you declared did not exist?

For shame.

Mopswasser,

The accounts you shared did not contain any evidence, sadly.

Mr_Blott,

Idea - To achieve equality, from now on, Luis Rubiales must French-kiss every member of the male squad after every match. Tongues and all.

I know, I’m ever the diplomat, no need to thank me

nxfsi,

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  • 0x815,

    <a href="">@nxfsi</a>

    Haven’t heard such a garbage comment in a long time.

    Pons_Aelius,

    And your long standing fight to mature mentally past a 15 year old edgy brat.

    Sadly, still no progress there.

    They get paid to play...what pro-team do you play for?

    nxfsi,

    no u

    Pons_Aelius,

    Yep, still 15 (at best)

    nxfsi,

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  • Pons_Aelius,

    Is anger all that you have?

    I feel real pity for you.

    I hope you find some joy in your life.

    nxfsi,

    Nope, just objective facts and empathy for the absolute state of women’s soccer.

    Pons_Aelius,

    I hope you find some joy in your life.

    520,

    More like the objective facts for your own misogyny.

    Tell me, if performance is all there is to it, why do so many educational institutions in the US make such big business out of sporting events?

    nxfsi,

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