Rocket,

“This vile garbage isn’t welcome in our community, or anywhere else,”

“And now I must go. My men-only golf league is about to tee off.”

Pyr_Pressure,

“And then I’ll go home to my 55+ only rancher community”

zesty,
@zesty@lemmy.ca avatar

Something tells me no one would even be talking about it had it been a black-only play group or chinese-only.

rbos,
@rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

Only if you pretend that the last 200 years of North American history are moot.

Idiots like you stripping events of context and pretending to innocently ponder them alone, without accounting for any other factors, sicken me. It’s performative, insincere, mocking both-sides bullshit, and it will not stand.

Grimpen,

Classic false-dichotomy. There is a German Cultural Centre, a Ukrainian Cultural Centre, and an Italian cultural centre near me. I remember the Luso-Canadian Club for Portuguese-Canadians. There is a Robbie Burns night held annually near me. No one complains about these.

What is unnerving is that this isn’t one of those. This is something very different.

What would be the cultural trappings that this club would seek to preserve, and how would those cultural trappings be exclusively colour coded?

I’m not an anthropologist or sociologist, but even I can see that this is a false equivalency.

Rocket,

What would be the cultural trappings that this club would seek to preserve, and how would those cultural trappings be exclusively colour coded?

Classic false dichotomy. The ad is clear that the intent is to allow children who “look the same” to play together, not to preserve a culture.

wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.social avatar

My question is how do you police something like this? Assume it is real and there is a group of people that form a white only play group... now what? Force them to disband and not allow them to gather? Force them to accept non-white members? Something tells me that these people will not be receptive to reasoned debate, protest, or social isolation. If anything, isolation is what they want.

I get being upset that such shitheelry is afoot, but I can't imagine normal well adjusted people wanting this group's members around them in polite society. I'm not even making a point here, I honestly don't know what the practical thing to do here is, if there even is anything to do other than be disgusted by them.

tartra,

The disgust - which should be the bare minimum - is very, very often withheld.

So go full force on disgust. That’s plenty on its own. It’s not just about them who organized this, but to show to everyone this is targeting (non-white supremacists) that this is not accepted in our communities, and that the people who aren’t directly targeted by this do not want to be in the company of white supremacists either.

The weaker the disgust is, the more it emboldens others to think ‘lesser’ forms can sneak in under the radar, since it’s not ‘as bad’ as the first thing they did. Everyone who’s targeted by the impact of this hatred sees those attempts made over and over again, so shutting it down each time shows that there’s never going to be a compromise of “okay we’ll do a little bit of racism because we have to meet in the middle”.

CoderKat,

Yeah, it doesn’t have to require a legal solution. Public shunning is an effective tool against things like this. Most people feel shame. As well, most employers do not want to employ blatant bigots, and losing your job can be just as harsh as any legal system punishment would be. In most cases, public shaming is all it takes for the event to dissolve entirely.

Rocket,

Most people feel shame.

Most people feel ashamed of being put in a negative spotlight. I’m not sure that equates to them actually changing their thoughts. More likely they will just become more discrete about sharing their thoughts, which changes absolutely nothing.

Rocket,

My question is how do you police something like this?

What is the desired outcome? Policing isn’t done for policing’s sake. It is a tool used to produce a result.

I can’t imagine normal well adjusted people wanting this group’s members around them in polite society.

If that is the goal, jailing the people (assuming they can be identified) is how to police it. That is our tool for removing people from society.

if there even is anything to do other than be disgusted by them.

For the individual, gaining an education is the best bet. As the saying goes: Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. When you gain the capacity to think about the world yourself, you no longer worry about what other people are thinking.

villasv,

now what?

Lawsuit? Police investigates the group to inquire if it’s a case that warrants charges on incitement of hatred?

So many options, depending on the results of the investigation.

Hotdogman,

Or it’s a troll

Grimpen,

Eh, I give it 50/50. As long as Her Majesty Queen Roman Dildo Romana Didulo I roams the land I have to concede that any nonsense is possible.

Rocket,

If it were a troll we wouldn’t be feeding it.

Peanutbjelly, (edited )

What are the odds they don’t want to vaccinate their children?

Weird thing to do as well, as it seems like an invitation to retaliation. Who thinks that behaviour is tolerated? Guessing rationality isn’t their strength to begin with.

Hope this bites them in the ass hard enough that their kids don’t care to follow the example.

Really wish people could be baseline decent human beings.

magnetosphere,
@magnetosphere@kbin.social avatar

Really wish people could be baseline decent human beings.

I think many could be, but most of our societies reward selfish behavior while creating frustration, dissatisfaction, and misdirected anger. People are unhappy with aspects of their lives, and it’s easier to blame other individuals/groups than try to tackle the deeper, more complex roots of the issue.

Ulrich_the_Old,

Anybody wanting a whites only country should go back to whitelandia where they came from.

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